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Post by pi on Jan 28, 2019 15:38:00 GMT -5
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Post by nica575 on Jan 28, 2019 15:38:49 GMT -5
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Post by melliemom on Jan 28, 2019 15:40:38 GMT -5
I read a couple of posts about the lack of attention Adam gets by queen social media ,etc...IMHO, Adam has enough of an ego and seems to love attention, so It appears to me that he is one happy guy and doesn't appear to be worrying about folks not complimenting him enough.
I watched a clip of him from American Idol,where he was asked why he helps the other contestants with the song choices ,etc.. He said that's what you do for friends.. IMHO,He is different from alot of others in the music business,he has said that he likes to work in groups where everybody helps each other.. He's just a great team player and knows his own worth. Probably learned this as a child working in theater groups.. He said,to paraphrase, there were no stars, the show was the important thing.Bottom line maybe Adam is more secure than some other singers..
whatever,I love that Adam is so generous with others and doesn't play oneupmanship.. Just my opinion.
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Post by nica575 on Jan 28, 2019 15:41:37 GMT -5
Awww... what a handsome young man!
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Post by nightowl on Jan 28, 2019 15:42:29 GMT -5
I'm kind of curious about how fans move around, or stay put, when artists make changes, leave groups, join new groups, etc. So am asking about the Queen Extravaganza fans and how they have respond to changes. Anyone know:
Did Marc Martel's fans from the Christian rock band he was in (I think I read they put out 10 albums) become a large part of his Queen Extravaganza fan base?
Are Marc's QE fans now following him in his solo work, or more or less remaining with QE despite changes in the line up? Doing both?
Is there a new fan base coming together for Alirio Netto, the new lead singer for Queen Extravaganza? Also, are his fans from being a popular singer in Brazil and from being in the Brazilian We Will Rock You following him over to QE? Do they become QE fans in general along with being AN fans?
Queen Extravaganza must be very well regarded and very successful financially to attract singers (MM and now AN) who were successful in their own endeavors prior to joining QE.
Thanks.
peace&love
I don’t know about Marc‘s fans before QEX. All in all, QEX doesn’t have a real fanbase, IMO. most of the times, they play pretty small venues and the attendees are Queen fans. Some of them dislike QAL, some don’t have the money for QAL some attend both. I haven’t seen Queen/QEX fans talking about Marc‘s solo work online. Only when it concerns Queen. Some do dislike, that he recorded a Cover Album of Queen. Most of them completely ignore that. Many QEX fans stay with QEX, although most haven’t been happy with Alirio Netto at first. But there are 6 members, and 2-3 have their own fans. I guess, their fans do/ would also attend Marc’s new Show. Both groups are clever enough not to play the same continents at the same time. It’s Queen‘s music, that the attendees want to hear. As long as it’s a good show, that is in this case also affordable for most people, enough Queen fans will go. Plus, QEX had played more album tracks in the past, while QAL usually plays a Greatest Hits Set. A plus for real fans. I don’t think, that the singers make much money. It’s said, that MM left, formed his own band and recorded that Cover Album, because of Money. They are essentially a hired touring band. Happy to get a job from the Queen guys and their appreciation. Feeling like afreddie & Co, while playing Queen audiences. That’s a big deal for Queen fans, what they all are. And no, I would probably not go and see them.
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Post by sizzling63 on Jan 28, 2019 15:57:48 GMT -5
That thought has crossed my mind as well. I don't think it is unreasonable to wish for a brief mention of the band and their new frontman, but I think it would only be appropriate during an interview and not during an awards speech. That could backfire badly. May be Rami doesn't want to take away from the "Freddie glory" - after all he has been consumed by the role of Freddie for quite a while. I simply see it as two different things: the movie has nothing to do with QAL. It’s their story from the past. Furthermore, Rami is an actor, speaking as such about his job, which was to portray Freddie. Like he played Mr. Robot and other roles before. He will do other ones. His role in Queen is temporary. Adam on the other hand has been a member of the Queen family for the last 6/7years. That’s why he gets asked about everything Queen in interviews, including the movie. Maybe I would care more, if Rami was a musician. I actually find it much more astounding in a negative way, that Queen‘s Social Media Pages barely ever mention Adam. Take a look at their Official Instagram or Facebook pages. It’s like Adam doesn’t exist. Even when they tour, there is just an occasional pic, where he happens to be in the picture with Brian and Roger. I came across one of the men, who run Queen Official and is also responsible for the forum. He’s a longtime fan and doesn’t like Adam fronting Queen. He has been a roady as well on QAL’s first tours in 2014/15, when he did his daily news posts from behind the scenes. Very interesting, but he managed to ignore Adam almost completely for the whole tour, while writing about the concerts ect. He did the podcasts as well, which you can find on their site. Podcasts with Brian, Roger (several), Rufus, Neil, Spike, Tyler, Marc Martel and more. No Adam. Members of the forum have asked and started a thread for an Adam podcast. No answer. And that’s how they run Queen‘s social media: they ignore Adam. Queen is Freddie, Brian, Roger and John. Nothing else. If Rami has been close to these people while filming, it’s no wonder, that QAL doesn’t really play a role in his view of Queen. Hint: There are also members of the Queen family, who really like Adam. Mainly those, who get to know him personally on tour. But as I wrote above: not everyone. I think, the fans on the whole are more appreciative. But the absolute diehards are inside the Queen machine. And I would wish, Brian and Roger would change that to some degree. nightowl , you commented before I modified my previous post a bit haha. In general, I don't hold any sour grapes as I am not in other forums and thus am often oblivious of a lot of things and miss most of the nasty bickering. However, I just went on Queen Official and I only saw Adam's picture under the "live/upcoming shows" section. www.queenonline.com/upcoming_shows - may be that's appropriate for a Queen forum. I can imagine that Brian and Roger would have some input. May be they think it is smarter to not stir the pot too much and let things flow as they do. It has worked for them. I remember that roadie from the QAL tour in 2014/2015 and his behind the scenes updates, and I actually liked his posts until I noticed that he never ever mentioned Adam. That was strange. And then he was gone anyways. It seems that Adam is not to everybody's liking, which is hard for us adoring fans to understand. The reasons are probably many - jealousy, loyalty to Freddie as the "essence" of Queen, and simply not liking Adam as the new frontman. He IS different from Freddie. Most Adam fans love him in this role, because we love him, and many Queen fans have come on board as well. Their current success is proof!!! If(!) there is resentment toward Adam from diehards within the Queen machine, I can imagine that it is not always easy for Adam to deal with, however the adoring crowds at each concert should make up for it, as well as the fact that there is increasing demand for QAL. Numbers do speak. Sure, BoRhap has helped a little
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Post by nightowl on Jan 28, 2019 16:01:12 GMT -5
I simply see it as two different things: the movie has nothing to do with QAL. It’s their story from the past. Furthermore, Rami is an actor, speaking as such about his job, which was to portray Freddie. Like he played Mr. Robot and other roles before. He will do other ones. His role in Queen is temporary. Adam on the other hand has been a member of the Queen family for the last 6/7years. That’s why he gets asked about everything Queen in interviews, including the movie. Maybe I would care more, if Rami was a musician. I actually find it much more astounding in a negative way, that Queen‘s Social Media Pages barely ever mention Adam. Take a look at their Official Instagram or Facebook pages. It’s like Adam doesn’t exist. Even when they tour, there is just an occasional pic, where he happens to be in the picture with Brian and Roger. I came across one of the men, who run Queen Official and is also responsible for the forum. He’s a longtime fan and doesn’t like Adam fronting Queen. He has been a roady as well on QAL’s first tours in 2014/15, when he did his daily news posts from behind the scenes. Very interesting, but he managed to ignore Adam almost completely for the whole tour, while writing about the concerts ect. He did the podcasts as well, which you can find on their site. Podcasts with Brian, Roger (several), Rufus, Neil, Spike, Tyler, Marc Martel and more. No Adam. Members of the forum have asked and started a thread for an Adam podcast. No answer. And that’s how they run Queen‘s social media: they ignore Adam. Queen is Freddie, Brian, Roger and John. Nothing else. If Rami has been close to these people while filming, it’s no wonder, that QAL doesn’t really play a role in his view of Queen. Hint: There are also members of the Queen family, who really like Adam. Mainly those, who get to know him personally on tour. But as I wrote above: not everyone. I think, the fans on the whole are more appreciative. But the absolute diehards are inside the Queen machine. And I would wish, Brian and Roger would change that to some degree. All tru and none of anyone’s attitude matters with the exception of Dr Bri, Roger, Spike AND General Ticket Byuing Public. QAL rolls on in all its glory, having greater and greater success with each tour! It is a thing of bueaty to see how the Rapsody Tour sold out everywhere! Some places within hours! People are ready to sit behind the stage, just to hear them! A little bit of information about QAL, it’s members and maybe other information or a link to Adam’s Homepage would be nice though. The tour does sell so fast this time, because of the movie. It took much, much longer two years ago. In Europe most of the venues didn’t sell out last year. Yes, QAL has been fabulous and successful. But I don’t get it, why there is no section for information about QAL on their homepage. You only find something in the forum and the Fanshop. After I attended a show (most people would do that BEFORE they go ), I went to the Queen Official Homepage for information. And I found only the tourdates. I think, a little bit (just a little section of Information) about QAL and their frontman would suit that site well. Because it’s NOT Freddie, Brian, Roger and John, who are touring. But hey, it has worked without it.
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Post by nightowl on Jan 28, 2019 16:21:00 GMT -5
nightowl , you commented before I modified my previous post a bit haha. In general, I don't hold any sour grapes as I am not in other forums and thus am often oblivious of a lot of things and miss most of the nasty bickering. However, I just went on Queen Official and I only saw Adam's picture under the "live/upcoming shows" section, but no particular mention of Adam. www.queenonline.com/upcoming_shows - I would imagine that Brian and Roger have some input. May be they think it is smarter to not stir the pot too much and let things flow as they do. It has worked for them anyways. I remember that roadie from the QAL tour in 2014/2015 and his behind the scenes updates, and I actually liked his posts until I noticed that he never ever mentioned Adam, like he didn't exist. That was strange. And then he was gone anyways. It seems that Adam is not to everybody's liking, which is hard for us adoring fans to understand. The reasons are probably many - jealousy, loyalty to Freddie as the "essence" of Queen, and simply not liking Adam as the new frontman. He IS different from Freddie. Most Adam fans love him in this role, because we love him, and many Queen fans did come on board, but not everybody is thrilled. If(!) there is resentment toward Adam from diehards within the Queen machine, I can imagine that it is not easy for Adam to deal with it times. The adoring crowds at each concert should definitely make up for it, as well as their numbers in ticket sales around the world. At a point like this, I think about Adam's solo career. I strongly "Believe" in it. Oh, I believe in Adam solo and with QAL. And my post was just in general as an answer to the Rami topic. The people, who are running Queen’s Social Media, are fans, who work for Queen in „lower“ positions. On tour, the guy was usually not even in personal contact with the band. And when he was, I’m sure, he was able to behave properly and decently. So Adam most likely doesn’t feel any resentment while touring with Queen. Meaning: If you get the chance to accompany your alltime favorite band, would you tell them or their singer, what you really think about them? And if you get to know Adam personally, will these resentments based on prejudices even hold? 😉 Have you been at a backstage tour? One thing, that I noticed there was, with how much awe the guide and everyone else was speaking about the band. Adam included. They are stars. Even for them it’s still special to interact with them and some barely dare to talk to them. By the way: that roadie is still there, at Queen Online, just not with them on tour. He’s usually not a roadie, but has a different job. He took times off to work for Queen on these tours. I don‘t think, that Brian and Roger really look into the content of Queen Online. Brian has his own platforms and is occupied with so many things. And Roger doesn’t seem to be someone, who’s much online. I think, they trust in their team.
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Post by bamafan on Jan 28, 2019 16:25:55 GMT -5
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Post by thelambertluvva on Jan 28, 2019 16:27:11 GMT -5
From what I know Marc wasn't used hardly as much as some of his fans want to believe. Yes he recorded quite some, but they indeed found more Freddie they could use. Talon mentioned he could hear the difference between Marc and Freddie in the movie. Maybe he can explain some of it. These articles to almost 10 million followers don't help though. Even though Marc himself says 'some vocals'. Mashable @mashable This is the man behind the voice of Freddie Mercury in 'Bohemian Rhapsody' So, from what we know is true, it is quite a stretch to say that Marc is "the man behind the voice of Freddie Mercury." I know his fans would love it to be so, but Marc himself knows it is not so. Fans are always emotional and believe what they want to believe. It's human nature. When I said I wished Rami had mentioned Adam, even briefly, I guess I didn't mean in his acceptance speech for the award. I guess I meant more in general interviews. I would love to hear Rami say, in a casual interview, something like, "And yeah, Queen is really going strong as ever, touring the world with Adam Lambert, who I saw perform with them and who is a really great Queen front man for them." Greedy on my part? Of course. In the end it makes no difference. These guys will all go on with their careers and this too will become old news. Sometimes that Glambert blood in my veins just takes over! I knew exactly what you meant.
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