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Post by reihmer on Oct 6, 2011 20:09:30 GMT -5
^^^ angry but accurate HoppersSkippersMiners.
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Post by NoAngel on Oct 6, 2011 20:13:07 GMT -5
This is a run-down about the Paramount Sessions, Take One, and Take Two written by Q3 back in March: adamtopia.com/index.cgi?board=daily&action=display&thread=106Based on this, it still seems to me that if Adam is saying the Paramount Sessions is not authorized by him, he must have signed his rights to the songs away otherwise how could they release them? Or else he only signed away publishing rights and therefore can't control their release, but would receive a portion of the profits if any. I still wonder if Monte did the same or if he had/has a different deal. |
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Post by cookie on Oct 6, 2011 20:15:19 GMT -5
Hmmm....let me fix this: >:( Here's that Welsford character's facebook: www.facebook.com/pages/Malcolm-Welsford/103125316394975"Later career Welsford developed and produced two albums with fucked over Adam Lambert who was the runner up for the 2009 American Idol series. He is the weasly jackass producer of Take One, Adam Lambert's current the bastard release with Coldwater Entertainment. Welsford also dicked over Adam some more by immorally selling produced over a dozen un-released tracks which Adam Lambert penned with Guitarist Monte Pittman. To date, combined sales including 'Take One' Album and Singles exceed 4.2 million units Adam Lambert discography, although Adam didn't see a dime from what Welsford sold without his consent." HSM- You are truly a gifted writer!  Adam approves! |
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Post by NoAngel on Oct 6, 2011 20:16:23 GMT -5
The other thing I'm wondering about-- last go-round, Adam's people weren't able (or didn't care) to stop Take One, but they were able to stop the CV songs from being released. I wonder if they will try to do that this time.
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Post by adamrocks on Oct 6, 2011 20:20:44 GMT -5
Love it, Hoppers! I wish there was a way to let the casual fan and the public know that this bastard album was not authorized or supported by Adam. I'm worried that people out of the 'fandom' and DJ's are going to think this is Adam's new album. >:(
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Post by reihmer on Oct 6, 2011 20:28:44 GMT -5
The other thing I'm wondering about-- last go-round, Adam's people weren't able (or didn't care) to stop Take One, but they were able to stop the CV songs from being released. I wonder if they will try to do that this time. In an ideal world Adam's MIB would tie up Welsford's finances in a law suit and take him to the brink of bankruptcy until he returned ALL of Adam's recordings back to him. |
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Post by bocababe on Oct 6, 2011 20:32:36 GMT -5
This is a run-down about the Paramount Sessions, Take One, and Take Two written by Q3 back in March: adamtopia.com/index.cgi?board=daily&action=display&thread=106Based on this, it still seems to me that if Adam is saying the Paramount Sessions is not authorized by him, he must have signed his rights to the songs away otherwise how could they release them? Or else he only signed away publishing rights and therefore can't control their release, but would receive a portion of the profits if any. I still wonder if Monte did the same or if he had/has a different deal. Here is the track list from Take One: Track Listings 1. First Light 2. Climb 3. December 4. Fields 5. Did you need it 6. More Than 7. Wonderful 8. Castleman 9. Hour Glass 10. Light Falls 11. Bonus Tracks-Remixes: Want, Spotlight, & On whith the Show And the track list from the Paramount Sessions: Disc 1: Climb Want Fields Under The Midday Sun Castleman Did You Need It Wonderful More Than Hour Glass Light Falls Away So Beg for Mercy must be the CV material. |
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Post by rihannsu on Oct 6, 2011 20:36:32 GMT -5
It's like they are trying to claim that they had employment agreements which gave them the rights to the songs. Like when programmers work for computer companies they often have to sign agreements that anything they write while employed by the company belongs to the company. I also wonder if Monte and Adam had signed a publishing deal which may have given Welsford the rights to make decisions on the releases. At the time they all trusted Welsford and thought he would get them a record deal. When Monte spoke about this before it sounded like Welsford had made a lot of promises that he ultimately didn't deliver on.
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Post by koshka on Oct 6, 2011 20:45:27 GMT -5
The thing about these recordings, especially the cv ones, is that they could totally market them honestly as what they are. Rock recordings before he became big. They wouldn't seem so slimy and people might bite.
On the upside I don't think there will be as many people fooled by a cover that doesn't have his picture on the front.
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Post by Buderschnookie on Oct 6, 2011 20:45:36 GMT -5
I think he may not have the rights to these recordings, although he retains the rights to the songs themselves (or at least the ones he wrote). So, he can record them again if he ever wants, but he can't control what happens to this version of them. Does that make sense to anyone but me? I have no idea where I got this notion but it was my understanding that the rights to the CV recordings were traded for the opportunity to do their own demo recordings on the other guys pro equipment. If something took off then win/win for all of them and if nothing happened they just died. None of them gave thought to the possibility of a later resurrection. |
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