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Post by gelly14 on Nov 1, 2011 13:43:13 GMT -5
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Post by gelly14 on Nov 1, 2011 13:44:03 GMT -5
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Post by evergreen on Nov 1, 2011 13:48:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2011 13:50:10 GMT -5
Last December, Katy was not in the same class of Pop star that Gaga is. Katy didn't "blow up" until this album and her 5 #1 singles. So, no I do not think the Jinlge Ball last year was beneath.
Perhaps we are arguing semantics because to me, with all the TV appearances Gaga did last year, and her tour, I did not consider that a vacation. I saw no break time for her whatsoever. She has been everywhere for 3 years now. It seems you might be a big Gaga fan and I unknowingly hit a sore spot. If I offended you, I am sorry.
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Post by SusieFierce on Nov 1, 2011 13:54:34 GMT -5
I'm more inclined to consider the source and their intention. I find the imposition of political correctness more offensive. Oh, this, this, a thousand times this. Intent is everything. I hate being in a situation where I have to second guess myself before I speak because some hypersensitive person may possibly take offense to something I say, usually because they are looking a bit too hard for a reason to be offended. If you look closely enough at anything it can be wanked to be offensive when it is abundantly clear that no offense was intended. If I want to offend you there will be no doubt, trust me. But if I am speaking casually I do not want my every word parsed to death back to its language of origin and meaning throughout the ages. My language is full of idioms, regional slang, throw away comments, and other peculiar speech patterns unique to me. I feel that the USA has already gone too far with the PC crap and hate to see individuality and colorful speech compromised any further. Some of the most interesting people I have ever know used some very odd language and I for one embrace that whole heartedly. This is not to say that I have never had to rethink my use of a word. But by and large I personally believe that words only have the power that we give them and so I choose to speak colorfully and with abandon and wish to holy hell that everyone else would do the same. It is hard enough to communicate effectively without such ridiculous restrictions. YMMV  THIS!! One of the things I loved about Adam stanning, is the freedom to take back my language as an adult and expressing emphasis and emotion in any way I pleased. The words are words because of their phonetic makeup, they release a lot of emotion just by virtue of saying them. And sorry, I often find the creative ways in which people use them rather hilarious – so long as they are not directed AT someone with the intention of hurting or denigrating. And the same terms have been around for centuries. Our society is no different – actually, perhaps far, far less than the golden days of the 19th century – anyone ever see "Deadwood"? Or even the many of the latest cable dramas set in the Arthurian England and after? These words weren't created yesterday and they won't be going away tomorrow. They have evolved (but ironically remained quite the same) as culture and communication have evolved. About Perez? Ugh! : : Love your breakdown, Gelly! He is a bully, pure and simple and for Adam to take his BS, he is kowtowing to his bullying ways. Sure, you do have to fraternize with a lot of bottom feeders in the entertainment industry, but you don't have to get into bed with them. I'm glad that Adam doesn't let his integrity be held hostage by someone who is wielding his bully pulpit to intimidate. Keep them at arms length, stay cordial, yet indifferent, and do not back down when they attack. Adam will probably continue to smile in his face while keeping him at arms length and slyly putting him in his placed with some well-chosen words. And I DO think A LOT of PH's followers are people who love to watch a good trainwreck, follow to mock, or those who love a gossip rag (I think most know enough to take those with a pillar of salt, and do as well.) ETA: That being said, it's not like I don't have personal hair-trigger words that make me wince. Usually, they originated to denigrate (the f-word – not fuck – the n word, etc.). It drove me crazy when my teenaged nephew and his friends used "gay" to describe everything they thought was lame and they finally broke the habit because they realized that tho they didn't intend it to mean anything derogatory, other people could perceive it as such and feel hurt. |
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Post by justkaren on Nov 1, 2011 14:02:42 GMT -5
I like to read posts written "colorfully and with abandon," but I also like when people who have sincere critiques post them, too. They're both interesting. My opinion only ... some words were "colorful" when they were just sprinkled here and there ... now they are so over-used as to have become gray and boring ... again, just my opinion ... it takes much more creativity to express a thought or an opinion in an original way. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2011 14:02:45 GMT -5
GLAAD tweeted a Congrats to Adam! glaadGLAAD
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Post by tigerlily on Nov 1, 2011 14:04:00 GMT -5
I don't see where Gaga took any break at all. According to Wikipedia, the last Monster Ball was May 6, 2011. Born this Way was released May 23, 2011 - I don't really consider 2 weeks to be a break or vacation for an artist. I was referring to the break that she took as far as releasing singles to radio. The last single off of Fame Monster was released on April 10, 2011. There was a year break before BTW was released to radio. (Katy P. had the exact same amount of time between releases of singles from her last and current album.) I didn't think anyone here was following her around the world on her 200 date tour or even keeping track of anything about her tour. I guess it wouldn't be much of a "break" if you were a Little Monster and you followed all the news and videos of every concert.  For casual fans, (who didn't watch youtube videos 5 to 6 times a week for 18 months) Gaga took a break. Rihanna has not had a break. She has released a single, one right after the other, for over two years now. At this rate, it looks as if Bruno Mars may not take a break from radio. If you count the two collabs Katy Perry had that did well in some other countries like the UK and Australia, then KP hasn't had a break AT ALL from radio since June 2008. Oh, you mean the 5 million worldwide albums she has sold or the fact that she is nearing double platinum in the US? Or the three top 10 hits she has had from this album, so far. Or the fact that these singles have sold twice as much outside of the US? Lackluster? LOL! I'll take half of those numbers for Adam for this next era!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2011 14:08:45 GMT -5
But on the topic of nasty behavior towards each other, I believe the expression here pretty much matches reality, as far as I can tell, so I see no reason to pretend it is otherwise. I have usually worked better in an environment with either more men or at least half men. For me, purely female work environments can be hell. My personal experience has always been that women are significantly more catty, cliquish, back-stabbing, isolating and adversary in nature than men. So you want to add bitchy to that list, I am not going to complain, because I think it is true. So, sometimes language can unfortunately speak the honest truth. So, if there are certain men (gay or not, I don't care one bit) who exhibit these behaviors and somebody calls them out on it, so be it. I too have found that the "sisterhood of women" is a crock, at least where the workplace is concerned. However ... from the stories my dad has told me, of his years as an IBM engineer during the "Mad Men" era ... backstabbing and cliques ran rampant. In my experience, the best workplaces and organizations are mixed in age, sex, race, as much as possible. I think it's because just having to accommodate all kinds of people forces most individuals to be more considerate and tolerant, whether they want to be or not. |
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Post by SusieFierce on Nov 1, 2011 14:17:33 GMT -5
But on the topic of nasty behavior towards each other, I believe the expression here pretty much matches reality, as far as I can tell, so I see no reason to pretend it is otherwise. I have usually worked better in an environment with either more men or at least half men. For me, purely female work environments can be hell. My personal experience has always been that women are significantly more catty, cliquish, back-stabbing, isolating and adversary in nature than men. So you want to add bitchy to that list, I am not going to complain, because I think it is true. So, sometimes language can unfortunately speak the honest truth. So, if there are certain men (gay or not, I don't care one bit) who exhibit these behaviors and somebody calls them out on it, so be it. I too have found that the "sisterhood of women" is a crock, at least where the workplace is concerned. However ... from the stories my dad has told me, of his years as an IBM engineer during the "Mad Men" era ... backstabbing and cliques ran rampant. In my experience, the best workplaces and organizations are mixed in age, sex, race, as much as possible. I think it's because just having to accommodate all kinds of people forces most individuals to be more considerate and tolerant, whether they want to be or not. Exactly. I have been in both situations (didn't stay long in the cliquish, gossipy places), but have been in offices with a lot of strong, funny, hard-working, smart women as well. I have probably remained at my current office because it is the very opposite of that (cliquish, I mean) – the tone set by my boss who never has to raise her voice or belittle anyone to exude her power. She is confident in her power and never has to exert it. To that end, newbies are always welcomed and mentored enthusiastically and there is almost no drama. Just a thought, but the term "Dick" has been used by men to describe other men as the ultimate, self-serving jerk for years too, so I don't agree that it all comes from a place of misogyny necessarily. |
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