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Post by aurora on Nov 5, 2011 9:10:56 GMT -5
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Post by lulu2365 on Nov 5, 2011 9:12:48 GMT -5
Here! Here! I hope a friendship hasn't been compromised beyond repair. I think back on the look that Monte and Adam exchanged just before he started singing "Outlaws of Love" in Montreal. It seemed to me they were both really excited to bring that moment to the fans. I hope they can recapture that mutual respect and friendship. If I could figure out how to load a screencap to photobucket I'd go look it up and post it.  Monte can GTFO! |
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Post by Q3 on Nov 5, 2011 9:12:49 GMT -5
Out of curiosity I asked my son, who's a lawyer, what this lawsuit could mean. Without all the details, he could only speculate that Sony & Adam stopped the sale of BFM on Amazon with a writ saying that Welsford was infringing on their rights by contract with Adam...The lawsuit is saying that they owned the rights to just these songs by contract before AI, therefore if Adam misled AI, it was his fault, not theirs. Hence, the reference to the AI contract. They also threw in the Spacebook, for shits & giggles. He also said they are not going after Monte because he honored the contract, did not put a stop to it, and doesn't have a pot to piss in (money). Monte has shown that he couldn't do anything about it because he signed a contract... It's because Adam stopped the sale, along with Sony, that they're suing him...don't blame Monte, he thank Welsford for helping with his new CD...not for the old contract. I think what rankled many fans is that Monte promoted it, plus the vitriol from Lisa back in the spring that is now assumed to be related didn't help. Monte has nothing to lose by the BFM sale, Adam has a lot to lose, at least theoretically. It's kind of like having your best friend marry your ex-husband 6 months after the divorce. It's not illegal but it would sorta suck, I think. I think part of the problem is that what Monte posted appears to be a lie. And that is what tipped the scale for me. ETA: I rarely quote MJ but she nailed this one, "Ugh. I’ve been sued by money-grubbing sleazebags myself, so I feel Adam’s pain. I hope his attorney squashes Colwel like a bug." Source MJSBigBlog, posted by MJ, 11.5.11.I think Adam is right with this one.  adamlambert Adam Lambert Remember than in any dispute, reserve judgement until all the facts surface from ALL parties. Guilt and innocence come with a complete story adamlambert Adam Lambert Eyes on the prize!!!  BACK TO THE EMA's. |
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Post by Q3 on Nov 5, 2011 9:18:00 GMT -5
On the EMAs Twitter Tracker -- is the list limited to artists who are nominated and announced as performers on the show? From the site " Which EMA stars are you tweeting about? Get the buzz on who's trending right this second!" If so, Adam cannot make the chart. Because he is not an announced part of the show. ema-twittertracker.mtv.com/live/#buzz?mode=recent |
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Post by spring2009 on Nov 5, 2011 9:19:55 GMT -5
Actually, I have talked to a couple of Copyright (IP) and Entertainment Law Attorneys -- they also say that no one can be sure about the claim and the validity of the claim without reviewing the filings and the contacts BUT.... 1. The Idol claim has no bearing on this case. It is there to get press. 2. The MySpace copyright infringement is trivial. A joke. 3. T here is NO information that Sony or RCA had anything to do with the "takedown" order that Amazon received. From the filing: "Upon information and belief, Lambert, through his authorized agent and representative, knowingly materially misrepresented to Amazon.com in the 'takedown notice' that Amazon's promotion and sale of the Album infringe Lambert's rights. Note: Welsford and his "agents" have privately made the claim that RCA and 19 stopped this release, but that is NOT in this filing.Welsford had a contract with Adam. He wants to release this album that he recorded and produced. Why all the other stuff? Why sling the crap about Idol? There must be more to this than we know because if it was a clean contract for an album by Adam Lambert it would have been released in November 2009 -- like Take One. I BELIEVE (but do not know) that what changed in this is Monte's position. Nothing else makes sense with everything we know. There are many ways to make money -- but if you choose to lie with SNAKES and SLUGS to earn a buck -- you cannot continue to live with the eagles. Too bad that we can't go back in a time machine, put these songs on Take One, and have this whole thing would have been over 2 years ago. JMHO IMCMWD (I am certain many will disagree.) Here! Here! I hope a friendship hasn't been compromised beyond repair. I think back on the look that Monte and Adam exchanged just before he started singing "Outlaws of Love" in Montreal. It seemed to me they were both really excited to bring that moment to the fans. I hope they can recapture that mutual respect and friendship. If I could figure out how to load a screencap to photobucket I'd go look it up and post it. Wow, and all I see when Adam mentions his new album etc. is the most fake, most constipated smile ever. I don't think he is all that happy for him there. IMHO. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2011 9:21:44 GMT -5
Here! Here! I hope a friendship hasn't been compromised beyond repair. I think back on the look that Monte and Adam exchanged just before he started singing "Outlaws of Love" in Montreal. It seemed to me they were both really excited to bring that moment to the fans. I hope they can recapture that mutual respect and friendship. If I could figure out how to load a screencap to photobucket I'd go look it up and post it. WOW |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2011 9:28:19 GMT -5
"Mostly I'm tired of people being ugly to each other. I'm tired of all the pain I feel and hear in the world every day. There's too much of it. It's like pieces of glass in my head all the time. Can you understand?" -- John Coffey, The Green Mile
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Post by justgill on Nov 5, 2011 9:29:07 GMT -5
Wow, and all I see when Adam mentions his new album etc. is the most fake, most constipated smile ever. I don't think he is all that happy for him there. IMHO.  I saw that too. GGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! |
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Post by ljsmack on Nov 5, 2011 9:32:02 GMT -5
I think Adam can compartmentalize and the eye on the prize tweet seems to indicate his focus is on the EMA's. I'm just hopeful his lawyers can work without distracting Adam and that the legal mess doesn't dampen his joy and excitement about his new album.
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Post by 4Ms on Nov 5, 2011 9:32:40 GMT -5
The twitter unfollows by Adam and now Neil say enough for me.
Monte's embrace of Beg For Mercy seems to have been the catalyst for the new attempt to release the music and with support from 2/3 of the involved parties has now emboldened Welford in this lawsuit-smear campaign.
The ugly accusations are in headlines all over the net.
How would the friendship be revived after all of that?
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