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Post by maria222pf on Nov 8, 2011 15:33:32 GMT -5
I have been reading the reaction here to the delayed single release and I understand the disappointment and wondered why I wasn't feeling it. So here is what I have figured out. I absolutely love the direction he is now going with the album as evidenced by the OUT article. I think that it is fabulous that he consciously sat down and said I want predominantly dance/upbeat music as opposed to the more "dark" ballady music but I need to determine how I can do this and still have it meld with my completely phenomenal voice. (OK, I said that not him and that is not to say that there won't be ballads because I am sure there will be.) If you listen to top 40 radio right now, a transition is occurring away from the auto-tuned crap of Mike Posner et al and also the collaborations meme is peaking. Adele's songs have been instrumental in that change but as much as I love her songs, there is no way you can dance or party to them. For me, she is an HAC artist who smashed into Top 40 because people are desperate for good singers. Bruno Mars also feeds into the good singer transition but his music is just a little 'croony'. The dance music right now is not 'phenomenal voice' friendly and that dance-style needs just a little longer to fade. So, what Adam is doing by going in a more funky direction is, depending on how you look at it, "NEXT" or completely old school. It is really a risk. I am thinking 'next' and am super excited to see how Adam has made funk modern. I am a funk lover from way back and although I want funk more than anything, I was a little concerned that radio was not quite ready and please don't throw things at me, nor would they necessarily accept a completely new direction from Adam. He is not yet a recognized trendsetter in music and I do not want there to be any hesitancy on the part of radio to accept or play his music. It is great that his management is playing the songs to the entertainment establishment all over the place and he needs time to do that. Also, November/December is the END of the year and I emphasize end because I think the collabs etc. will be over by then. Radio will be so sick of Holiday music and the same ol' same ol' that they will be ready, and so will the listeners, to party. The upshot of this whole essay is that January is a new year for a new sound and as much as I want new music from Adam, I think the timing is better if he waits irregardless of what other litigious crap is going on. FYE was Adam testing the waters as a Pop Star, this next album is Adam finding his unique voice and I, for one, am ready to party.
So, really, honestly, the anticipation now makes me happier than I was before. It is going to be good. Love your post and especially the bolded part. Ditto
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Post by wal on Nov 8, 2011 15:40:17 GMT -5
www.cbsnews.com/2300-207_162-10010123.html#44 Adam Lambert performs with Queen onstage during the MTV Europe Music Awards 2011 at the Odyssey Arena on Nov. 6, 2011, in Belfast, Northern Ireland. #45 Brian May of Queen performs with Adam Lambert during the MTV Europe Music Awards 2011 at the Odyssey Arena on Nov. 6, 2011, in Belfast, Northern Ireland. #58 Queen perform onstage during the MTV Europe Music Awards 2011 at the Odyssey Arena on Nov. 6, 2011, in Belfast, Northern Ireland.
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Post by gelly14 on Nov 8, 2011 15:40:19 GMT -5
dan wootton is the guy that did an interview with Adam during his UK promo tour for News of The World. After this interview the UK tabloids wrote "Adam fancies Beckam and he wouldn't kick him out of bed" : That's why Adam always says that he prefers videos or tapped recordings so where you can hear or see the words coming out of his mouth.
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Post by gelly14 on Nov 8, 2011 15:41:35 GMT -5
Henrietta_1 Harriet Wolf by MoreGlamPlease RT borneobert: Oh! Simon Cowell was at #MTVEMA! Bet he was blown away by @adamlambert with Queen!!! Full circle moment. 8 minutes ago Favorite Undo Retweet Reply
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Post by wal on Nov 8, 2011 15:44:09 GMT -5
Swedish site. tyras.se/2011/11/08/adam-lambert/eta: google translate: Adam Lambert By far the nicest and most down to earth celebrity I met for the second time (first time he was with Bella & Tyra Show) is Adam Lambert. Or the happiest celebrity of them all was probably David Hasselhoff, haha. But Adam is so incredibly nice and does not let fame go to his head. We met both on the red carpet and after party. Since Adam was the world's bloody hit-appearing with Queen . It is not easy to sing the high notes ... See the movie at the bottom of the youtube if you missed the gala. Where he sings "Show must go on" . More info / gossip from celebrities and red carpet will, I will take a little at a time; P Adam Lambert and I Adam received a call from me in Bella & Tyra show. A ring with skulls which I had on me as he liked. Then he got it. Thought it was the one he had on him, haha, but it was not ... But he is a rocker and loves skulls Remember when I wrote about the spring trend, plateau shoe , which we will get already for winter in Style by Tyra. Type ALL celebrities are wearing plateau shoes right now, and Adam is not slow to catch on
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Post by gelly14 on Nov 8, 2011 15:45:28 GMT -5
laceyroseSo many people got their photos these days! Yayyy!!!!!
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Post by maria222pf on Nov 8, 2011 15:46:17 GMT -5
Ok, I GOT I. I think that as soon as Adam gets a copy of the promo plan for this era, he should tweet a link to it. Names, dates, magazine covers, interviews, radio promo, the whole shabang. Then we could spend weeks discussing it and everyone is gonna give their opinion how this part is good, and that is bad, and this one is DEFINITELY gonna ruin his career. Oh, and it doesn't matter if things have not been confirmed yet. We like speculation. Yeah, I think that's the way to go. What does he mean, he's gonna *surprise* us???? ;D
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Post by wal on Nov 8, 2011 15:52:18 GMT -5
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Post by gelly14 on Nov 8, 2011 15:54:20 GMT -5
Translation from the girl's pics that wal posted SusieFierce Susie Fierce Awww her translation: lockerz.com/s/154441586 2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Post by melliemom on Nov 8, 2011 15:57:12 GMT -5
[quote author=carrieb board=daily thread=552 post=117495 time=1320772699 When I moved into working with non-authors, I really had to re-orient my thinking, promotion and pricing due to the different nature of the audiences. In my experience, there is a HUGE difference in the shelf-life of an author*and others. This difference is due to the differences in the perceived nature of the products (long-term, permanent value versus short-term gratification) and the nature of the audiences. As an example, I booked a gig with an author who hadn't issued anything new in many years, but was a big star amongst a smallish audience before and the response at booking was tremendous. At the same time, I booked a gig with a pop musical act that had moderate but more widespread success just two years prior and got a big yawn in response. Luckily, their fees were commensurate with the size of their audiences. I will also add one commonality, however, is that the ease of promotion after a hiatus is largely (although not exclusively) dependent upon how big a star they were before s/he went on hiatus. It's far far easier to promote an author whose been on hiatus if that author was a mega-star or had a deep cult following and/or deep industry respect BEFORE they went on hiatus -- I have found that aspect to be the same with sports or performers. *I've also found that sacred or classical music performers can be put in the same category as authors -- their work is consumed by people who are looking for and reward those who create what they consider permanent works of art that will stand the test of time. Therefore, being timely and current is not a high value. So the question is -- do I as an individual consumer see Adam Lambert as a performer whose product I will buy now and consume for a short period of time or do I see him as a long-term part of my entertainment options? That to me is the difference between a core fanbase and a mass audience. Adam’s a pop star. Therefore, he sells music to people who want new music/videos/tours as entertainment and stimulation. If they’re not getting what they want, they’ll move on. If I were Adam, I'd consider myself lucky that my pop music fans are telling me that they don’t want to move on, that they want to keep buying product. In that, he’s far luckier than most pop stars whose mass audience has no loyalty at all. If Adam wants to be a mega-star in pop music and by all indications he does, his business plan has to deal with the fact that by its nature pop music is time-sensitive and current and has to appeal to a mass audience. A mass audience must extend beyond Adam’s core fanbase. A mass audience for pop music is inherently focused on its own stimulation – hence why Madonna wisely changed her persona with every album and Gaga less wisely changed it with every walk through an airport. They don’t have loyalty to a performer because they are not that invested in them beyond consuming their products and their persona right now. I expect that with these delays, Adam is going to lose a slice of his current mass audience fanbase because he’s not fulfilling their desires. It’s not that his new music won’t be able to extend his fanbase beyond what he’s achieved in the past – I have every hope it will. Nonetheless, these fans expressing their disappointment at the delay are just being normal pop consumers who buy what they want right now, don’t care about future music because they know their taste might change and therefore don’t know what they’ll want in the future, and who will lose interest if the present doesn’t meet their needs. That's the reality of trying to be a pop music star. Those are very interesting insights into the nature of the fanbase. If I've understood rightly, there is a part of the fanbase, which doesnt have a long-term interest in Adam. If they dont get something within a certain time period, they will forgte about him, and not revert back to him, unless his new music inherently interests them. The sort of "strike while the iron's hot" aspect of this. Whats interesting to me is that there's obviously a tension, a need to walk a line, between making something that seems right and getting something out "in time". If time would help a product be better, then there seems to be a tradeoff between picking up new fans because of how good the product is, and keeping those of your fans that are pop-consuming and fast changing. I think youre right in in suggesting that Adam has given signals that he wants to be a pop icon. But i have a sense he's not quite as sure about that anymore. There's been this new feeling that i see emerging in him which wants him to be authentic and organic and express his nature. Less of the autotuned generic pop (for me FYE and IIHY were in that mould) and more of..something else. Its all very interesting to me . I would love to seem him FUSE mass appeal with something a little more personal and original. I think its because of I see him as a combo of the two: someone gorgeously different, creative and ahead of his time - and yet someone who loves mass culture and loves ordinary people - not an elite snob. Do you think thats possible - which artists do you see as having done that? [/quote] All the greats Madonna,Elvis and Michael Jackson Have or had what you describe.. Adam in my opinion is heading in that direction.. Epic After the AMA's Adam lost confused ,upset fans, but he probably gained as many as he lost.. For all the disgruntled there will be the delighted new fans and of course us .. the fans who are with him for life. Kind of like the fans who refused to give up on the above stars when they went through their trials and tribulations. Remeber Elvis went into the army and was gone and then lived with a teenager,Madonna had it out with the pope for being "against the church policies",and of course Jackson who had those kids sleeping in his bed. Adam is just a little late.. Geez thats not that big a deal.
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