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Post by 3ku11 on May 14, 2020 1:01:49 GMT -5
I am pissed. Sorry. I couldn't help myself and responded to them. Major failure to leave out Adam. And they should be made aware. Some times it is okay to not be politely quiet, in fact I feel increasingly more like that. I seem to recall was it Darren Cris. Guy from Glee. What changed for LGBT artists he was asked. Adam Lambert on American idol. He kicked the door down. Adam took the hits. So Today's artists didn't have too. I've always felt their was a internal bias towards Adam from the music industry. Ever since AMAS. Which is old news of course. But I guess This ET cover kinda proves my point.
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Post by nonotme on May 14, 2020 2:25:58 GMT -5
Darren Hayes of Savage Garden after he realized he was gay and started a solo career, when asked "What do you think was the most groundbreaking event in pop culture that has helped this shift towards LGBTQ acceptance since 2000?"
Hayes answered: Adam Lambert on American Idol
"Hands down. He smashed down the door of the closet. I loved Adam's image. It was an extension of his sexuality. It was bold and unapologetically theatrical. He expressed himself loudly, dramatically and did not give a damn whether it was palatable to conservative values. I loved that he wore makeup, nail polish and experimented with his hair. He didn't have to come out because he was never in. I think his success proved you can be out, proud and successful by beginning your career presenting yourself as authentically as possible." Hayes said.
on Top Magazine June 2017
peace&love
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Post by lurleene on May 14, 2020 3:16:09 GMT -5
Darren Hayes of Savage Garden after he realized he was gay and started a solo career, when asked "What do you think was the most groundbreaking event in pop culture that has helped this shift towards LGBTQ acceptance since 2000?" Hayes answered: Adam Lambert on American Idol "Hands down. He smashed down the door of the closet. I loved Adam's image. It was an extension of his sexuality. It was bold and unapologetically theatrical. He expressed himself loudly, dramatically and did not give a damn whether it was palatable to conservative values. I loved that he wore makeup, nail polish and experimented with his hair. He didn't have to come out because he was never in. I think his success proved you can be out, proud and successful by beginning your career presenting yourself as authentically as possible." Hayes said. on Top Magazine June 2017 peace&love Wow! That was so touching. I don't think I had heard that before. I am going to need to look him up. I've heard the name Savage Garden but maybe I'll know who they are when I look up some of their work. Rob Hertfied? of Judas Priest also had some nice things to say about Adam making a difference. It is always puzzling to me when they leave Adam out. Janae Monae and some of the others had already made it when they came out. That is fine cause everyone needs to be okay with themselves when they do. But it is rather hurtful that Adam had to take so much fire but some don't want to give him the reward. It is scary to think how much bigger he would be, if he could have walked in and made a big career for himself with his music at the top of the charts. And all the others had taken all the fire/sh** before he said hey by the way I'm gay. But I'm always happy that he did not live with that fear and decided he was good enough no matter what others thought or how much it slowed him down.
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Post by sizzling63 on May 14, 2020 4:26:11 GMT -5
3ku1, I think the guy in the picture is Rock Hudson. He was a closeted gay actor until he died of Aids, and I believe that his story and rise to fame are woven into the latest "Hollywood" series. I am wondering how Kirsten Stewart made the cover, and I bet that Freddie would not be on it without the success of Bohemian Rhapsody.
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Post by girldrummer on May 14, 2020 10:22:36 GMT -5
lurleene, you said it perfectly, as usual. Adam was one of the very few who decided to be his true self from the beginning. He has succeeded is many ways, but he has also paid a price. I agree with your sentence, "It is always puzzling to me when they leave Adam out." Hasn't he proved himself enough? Does he possess some kind of stigma? AMAs? STILL? It boggles my mind. Has every asset that the arena-fillers do. Yet he doesn't fill arenas on his own. Boggles the mind.
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Post by lurleene on May 14, 2020 10:54:30 GMT -5
lurleene, you said it perfectly, as usual. Adam was one of the very few who decided to be his true self from the beginning. He has succeeded is many ways, but he has also paid a price. I agree with your sentence, "It is always puzzling to me when they leave Adam out." Hasn't he proved himself enough? Does he possess some kind of stigma? AMAs? STILL? It boggles my mind. Has every asset that the arena-fillers do. Yet he doesn't fill arenas on his own. Boggles the mind. I agree. But I think I do understand why Adam does not fill arenas. He never got the never ending radio play that the arena fillers got. Her never received the OTT radio play that all the #1 artists got and get over and over again. Yes streaming became big but they also got the radio hits and the award show performances and they all work together for exposure. I really believe if Adam had more time with the head of RCA, who was a big supporter of his, things would have been different. Thankfully he went international with Adam out of the gate. But he left when Adam was just starting and after his first album. After WWFM, Adam never got the big radio support again in the US. Yes the new regime got him the #1 album but how the hell do you not push any songs from a number #1 album? Seems after that, he was always starting over. I am still surprised that since he has been a successful frontman for Queen that Universal (their home) didn't pick him up. Or maybe the opportunity was there but Adam had tired of a major. However, I'm glad he has done so well even with the obstacles. And Velvet is the absolute best.
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Post by sizzling63 on May 14, 2020 16:14:08 GMT -5
Darren Hayes of Savage Garden after he realized he was gay and started a solo career, when asked "What do you think was the most groundbreaking event in pop culture that has helped this shift towards LGBTQ acceptance since 2000?" Hayes answered: Adam Lambert on American Idol "Hands down. He smashed down the door of the closet. I loved Adam's image. It was an extension of his sexuality. It was bold and unapologetically theatrical. He expressed himself loudly, dramatically and did not give a damn whether it was palatable to conservative values. I loved that he wore makeup, nail polish and experimented with his hair. He didn't have to come out because he was never in. I think his success proved you can be out, proud and successful by beginning your career presenting yourself as authentically as possible." Hayes said. on Top Magazine June 2017 peace&love Wow! That was so touching. I don't think I had heard that before. I am going to need to look him up. I've heard the name Savage Garden but maybe I'll know who they are when I look up some of their work. Rob Hertfied? of Judas Priest also had some nice things to say about Adam making a difference. It is always puzzling to me when they leave Adam out. Janae Monae and some of the others had already made it when they came out. That is fine cause everyone needs to be okay with themselves when they do. But it is rather hurtful that Adam had to take so much fire but some don't want to give him the reward. It is scary to think how much bigger he would be, if he could have walked in and made a big career for himself with his music at the top of the charts. And all the others had taken all the fire/sh** before he said hey by the way I'm gay. But I'm always happy that he did not live with that fear and decided he was good enough no matter what others thought or how much it slowed him down. It is hurtful for me too, but in all fairness Adam did not "have" to take so much fire. He was ready to push buttons from the start and he said so during Idol Tour interviews already. As girldrummer was wondering if there might still be stigma from the AMAs, from my point of view I bet that is the case. A different performance that night might(!) have made all the difference and landed him at the top of the charts from then on. Then again, Adam is Adam and he did not start out like SS. Let's face it, he performed ROF on Idol!! I loved it but some hated it. Then Glamnation happened... Fast forward to a decade later... after much hiatus from the previous album he came back, made himself vulnerable with the letter attached to FS and was very positively received. NE was next. Gorgeous song again, but what do we all think about the 70's vibe as seen in the music video and especially during the performances on Idol and Ellen? Did people get it? Did they even make the Adam Lambert connection? Several months later the whole album was released, and unfortunately it happened just when the lockdowns started. Adam introduced it on radio.com but wow, and this is only one example, do we think that everybody watching was a fan of the bright green eye shadow? Or the new music video? I am not criticizing. Adam is who he is. But not everybody is willing to jump on board, despite his immense talent and in my opinion his best album yet. I am a fan too, but I am trying to see it as objectively as I can. I do believe that Adam was and is a trailblazer and that he has made it much easier for gay artists on various platforms, yet he does not always get the credit he deserves. The choices he made were his own, and I believe that it indirectly reflects on radio play.
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Post by deb5anne on May 14, 2020 16:44:45 GMT -5
Wow! That was so touching. I don't think I had heard that before. I am going to need to look him up. I've heard the name Savage Garden but maybe I'll know who they are when I look up some of their work. Rob Hertfied? of Judas Priest also had some nice things to say about Adam making a difference. It is always puzzling to me when they leave Adam out. Janae Monae and some of the others had already made it when they came out. That is fine cause everyone needs to be okay with themselves when they do. But it is rather hurtful that Adam had to take so much fire but some don't want to give him the reward. It is scary to think how much bigger he would be, if he could have walked in and made a big career for himself with his music at the top of the charts. And all the others had taken all the fire/sh** before he said hey by the way I'm gay. But I'm always happy that he did not live with that fear and decided he was good enough no matter what others thought or how much it slowed him down. It is hurtful for me too, but in all fairness Adam did not "have" to take so much fire. He was ready to push buttons from the start and he said so during Idol Tour interviews already. As girldrummer was wondering if there might still be stigma from the AMAs, from my point of view I bet that is the case. A different performance that night might(!) have made all the difference and landed him at the top of the charts from then on. Then again, Adam is Adam and he did not start out like SS. Let's face it, he performed ROF on Idol!! I loved it but some hated it. Then Glamnation happened... Fast forward to a decade later... after much hiatus from the previous album he came back, made himself vulnerable with the letter attached to FS and was very positively received. NE was next. Gorgeous song again, but what do we all think about the 70's vibe as seen in the music video and especially during the performances on Idol and Ellen? Did people get it? Did they even make the Adam Lambert connection? Several months later the whole album was released, and unfortunately it happened just when the lockdowns started. Adam introduced it on radio.com but wow, and this is only one example, do we think that everybody watching was a fan of the bright green eye shadow? Or the new music video? I am not criticizing. Adam is who he is. But not everybody is willing to jump on board, despite his immense talent and in my opinion his best album yet. I am a fan too, but I am trying to see it as objectively as I can. I do believe that Adam was and is a trailblazer and that he has made it much easier for gay artists on various platforms, yet he does not always get the credit he deserves. The choices he made were his own, and I believe that it indirectly reflects on radio play. I agree with all the points everyone is making. I think Adam has done it his way from minute one and I applaud him. The current pandemic not withstanding I think he's really happy with his choices and will continue to move forward. If you really look at it from 11 years ago to now- whoda thunk it! To think after having the first #1 album from an openly gay solo artist to just releasing his best album to date. AND he's the lead singer for Queen for crying out loud. Of course we want more for him but I love him and think he's wildly successful. Keep it coming!
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