SophieB
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Post by SophieB on Feb 20, 2022 17:54:22 GMT -5
cleopatra , girldrummer , @lurleene Ladies….lol….I think you make my point. (But it’s very late here so I’m not sure ) We all adapt our personas and behaviours to different circumstances as we feel appropriate. I certainly do - but I can honestly say I never find the right moment to put on a codpiece or pose in my underwear in public or stick out my tongue or put on a totally affected voice to,speak in barely literate phrases designed to label myself….. Yes I am sure that Adam himself is very, very effeminate or flamboyant (I wish I could find better words): in his most private and relaxed moments. I have often wondered how hard it is for him to present as hunky male rockstar (which he does rarely now). I think he subscribes to all the affectations of his friends, Much more like Johnny Rice than like George Michael for example… You have mentioned how gay men were represented on television not so long ago - as slightly ridiculous comedy figures,, the more affected, all the better to make fun of. But what Adam had on Idol was a (then) unique quality of being an open, proud, gay man in a dignified, charming, self-respecting wrapper that pushed no one away. It made him so much more than his sexuality.He garnered resoect and that dignity became a powerful force in opening minds and opportunities for himself and others to follow. In a wider context, are the proud gay men in their underwear on an evening out, advancing their cause or turning back the clock?
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Post by SophieB on Feb 20, 2022 17:58:53 GMT -5
sizzling . Just seen your last post. So nice to talk but eyes closing now
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Post by lurleene on Feb 20, 2022 18:54:07 GMT -5
I think Adam is pretty much as he presents himself and I don't find him very effeminate at all. A little more flamboyant sometimes when with friends or pride events. Makes sense. But we have seen many videos and photos of him before Idol and before he became famous. Saw no Johnny Rice type antics or affected way of talking in his normal state. I think that would be too hard to hide for long periods of time. I would like to hope that Adam does not spend an enormous amount of time trying to hide his true nature. That would seem too exhausting and very sad, imo. All gay men are not alike and Adam only has to be Adam. I don't think he is just like his friends or people he poses with. Even they don't all act or present themselves the same way. Same way all straight friends are not the same. They have their own personalities.
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Post by happy on Feb 20, 2022 22:10:32 GMT -5
SophieB Interesting conversation. I certainly raise my eyebrow but try not to judge as I know that what is acceptable to one generation changes in the next one or two. I can still hear my mother saying “Don’t be vulgar” but she thought tattoos were for lowlife and pierced ears were for barbarians. LOL. Despite that, I did get my ears pierced when I was in my 20’s. Just because I’m trying not to judge, doesn’t mean I have to like it though!
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Post by donnamb on Feb 20, 2022 22:42:54 GMT -5
So, we saw instas of people out at a gay club - a safe place to express oneself, whether in a conservative manner or a crazy one. As an elder straight woman who has only a few (elder) gay friends who are in a married status, I don't expect to see the friends' photos in my feed - tho I can't vouch if they get a little crazy for the Mummers Parade in Philadelphia, or in Key West - or some other situation in another gay locale. Some people may choose to express themselves in a more feminine manner (if male) or more masculine (if female). Or move towards non-binary. Or transition. It doesn't affect me.
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