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Post by 4Ms on Jan 13, 2012 18:10:24 GMT -5
I made that error all by myself and I have no idea why. I'm a bit glad though...I didn't want to hate on Jim ;D Q3 Mods Somebody?Arrrgh!! People are quoting my big dumb mistake. Help! Q3 Comment: I will go fix it.
Also, if you have nothing new to add about the NON Jim C. statement. Let's give it a rest.
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Post by adamme on Jan 13, 2012 18:11:26 GMT -5
neurodiversityI don't think Durbin is the only one dealing with it. James is the first star performer to be open about his neurodiversity from the very start of his career. I think one of the reasons Adam Lambert may have said some negative things about James is that he is jealous that Durbin had the integrity to be open about who he was from the start of his American Idol, and that he was allowed to be by Fox. Adam was only able to come out as gay after losing on American Idol. ~ Jim Cantiello Landon Bryce thautcast.com/drupal5/content/watch-james-durbin-and-gays-talking-ellen-and-about-adam-lambert
Edit to correct author of quote. What??? Adam jealous?? Who's Landon Bryce anyway? I don't want to click on the link and give him hit... sorry >:(
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Post by rabbitrabbit on Jan 13, 2012 18:13:46 GMT -5
I made that error all by myself and I have no idea why. I'm a bit glad though...I didn't want to hate on Jim ;D lolol aw 4Msrmyn I feel you, we all do stuff like that, no biggie. Only tangentially related, but there is an interesting thing that happens here when people are understandably busy with real life and drop in their comments before reading the whole thread, or when only skimming. I've noticed that the last few days the discussion has been a little circular and repetitive, and misunderstandings tend to get amplified, rather than cleared up fast. *goes off to find some peas for lunch*
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Post by skylar on Jan 13, 2012 18:15:13 GMT -5
Ahhh OK one more time. I am not talking about a free pass.
OK really off to eat.
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Post by murly on Jan 13, 2012 18:16:44 GMT -5
WOW That CBC Q interview was GREAT. Srsly. The interviewer was good and had a nice repore with Adam. Made it seem like we were just eavesdropping on a private convo over coffee or something. Hope he gets interviewed by him for era #2. Loved the bit about JT telling him to go all Freddie Mercury on it. When it comes to criticism, Durbin needs to adopt Adam's philosophy as expressed in this interview: "You can't please everybody." The one thing Durbin did that really bugged me was after Adam was quoted as saying that he was "kinda over" Durbin. That's all he said, but Durbin took offense and accused Adam of "taking it to another level." You'd think Adam had said, "I'm always nice to assholes like you but..YOU CAN GO FUCK YOURSELF!" Then there were the comments about Adam betraying his fan base by not doing a rock album. I started out resenting Durbin on Idol because he compared himself to Adam when he was clearly not in Adam's league at all. Nothing Durbin has done since has made me warm up to him. Quite the contrary. His personality may be due to his disability--but it also might be that he's just a dick.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2012 18:16:45 GMT -5
Doesn't bother me that Durbin tweeted "fuck off" to a radio guy (I think that guy's a dj, anyway) who tweeted to him that he was "horrible." It's utterly impolitic, but what he did in a way fits with Adam's advice in that "Aftermath" intro he did about people saying, no, no, no to you. but he didn't tweet to James... ErikontheX Erik Raines #ThingsILearnedTonight James Durbin is horrible. #conan
Swearing at the guy like that was totally OTT. Asperger's? Perhaps...but he choose his career. Not cutting him any slack. Thank you for correcting that.
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Post by skylar on Jan 13, 2012 18:17:18 GMT -5
I like to think of people here at Adamtopia as having good sportsmanship. i.e. being gracious about those who are not at Adam's talent level. I like to think of people here as that little bit more empathetic and more capable of putting themselves in other people's shoes. I also really like to think that, considering we all have weaknesses, we do not pick on others like so many at other forums do (some are like lions in a Roman arena, or vultures in the desert) Huge kudos to Durbin for his fight and his courage to get where he is. He has a mild social problem. It is mild but it is very real. Just as Adam is wired the way he has been wired. Durbin is wired the way he is and had no choice in the matter. This is a personal request, not an Adamtopia requirement. Please lets not be like the others out there who pick on those not at Adam's level, and the more vulnerable, but rather be the one's who get it. Durbin is more vulnerable. I am not feeling sorry for him. It is a fact. It is truly unsportsmanlike to pick on people in general. But when you represent the winner, the best of the best, which Adam is when it comes to vocals, being and entertainer, and social abilities, all the more reason to be kind and gracious about those who are not at that level. Another lesson we can learn from Adam himself.Skylar, once again you struck a chord with me. I really, really try to live my life by this rule. I'm nowhere near to Adam's level, but I try.... While I admit I might secretly be entertained by the clever snark cultivated elsewhere (mostly Twitter) I try not to engage myself too much with that. Firstly, because I'm here for Adam, and putting down others does not help him. Secondly, because any kind of negativity does not make me feel particularly good or smart personally. Regarding JD; he's not my cuppa, but I wish him all the best with his career. He's trying to do something with his life/passion/talent, which I totally admire. If we think it has not been easy for Adam, it's ten times harder for JD, and he's doing the best HE can... J/S... Thank you so much for your response. *huge hug*
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Post by adamme on Jan 13, 2012 18:18:50 GMT -5
This Durbin discussion... All non-US throwing peas I want to play too...
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Post by FanOfTheMan on Jan 13, 2012 18:19:45 GMT -5
Sorry - double post. don't know how that happened. ;D
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Post by FanOfTheMan on Jan 13, 2012 18:26:55 GMT -5
I gotta say I find Durbs really dreadful as a performer. I do recognize that disliking him as much as I do is beneath me. I actually wish I didn't even know who he was. I must say that a career in show business seems like a singularly bad choice for a person with Asperger's. The above traits seem like the polar opposite of what is necessary to succeed. I have felt from the beginning that Idol exploited Durbin's handicap because they felt that it made a good story. I understand that in Durbin's case, the condition is a mild one. Now if he uses that condition as an ever-present excuse for his behaving and talking like an asshat whenever he pleases, which I think he does, it will come back on him and not in a good way. A fake crutch will only last so long. I have no use for anyone who does this. I personally think his head grew several sizes from his Idol experience and he thinks he is above reproach or critique. :-/ Anyone with a mental condition of any degree should/must be held accountable for their assy actions and not excused. This is the way they learn acceptable behavior and that bad behavior has consequences. I refuse to be an apologist for someone like James. If he cannot control himself, perhaps the entertainment field is not for him.
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