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Post by lifetraveler on Jan 24, 2012 17:16:21 GMT -5
from LifeTraveler: "Second, RCA should know their business better. Really, RCA, really? You are counting on people NOT downloading the single illegally? On what planet does RCA live? Songs are being downloaded illegally all over the place. The labels have been fighting this for years. The key is to get the song visibility to a point where you have enough people BUYING even though you also have a lot of people downloading. It's the nature of the industry right now. Then you make up for lost revenue through touring, merch, other avenues." I don't believe that RCA is so clueless to NOT have a business plan for exactly this. Yes, I agree with you. That's why this information from various "sources" that RCA is concerned about sales because of fans not buying sounds really sketchy to me. That's why I put a big "IF" in front of my post.
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Post by durberville on Jan 24, 2012 17:16:51 GMT -5
Has this been posted? From some program director in New York. @shannonssteele *pretty much everyone I know in programming is disappointed. It won't go very far up the charts. Unfortunate because I'm a big fan of him as a artist! *you're forgetting three important words: in my opinion! I'm all about open dialogue but will not tolerate being bullied about my opinion. I've programmed radio for a long time, I'm extremely good at it. *not even close! The reviews from actual critics are not good. Only 131 plays in the entire country this week, 31of those overnight *hey now, don't be angry, that tude is uncalled for. And being treated like this will ensure the song doesn't get played! *my dear YOU are making fans of this amazing artist look bad. Just to put this woman's opinion in perspective...(scroll to middle) I don't think Adam is her cup of tea. fansofdavid.com/?p=15357and more: She's from Christian Radio.... " Coming to THE JOY FM is a full-circle move for STEELE: "I started my journey in Christian radio in my hometown, BIRMINGHAM" www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/98625/new-morning-afternoon-lineups-coming-to-wvfj-atlanhehe...somehow this all makes sense now. I'm okay with it
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Post by staytuned on Jan 24, 2012 17:17:52 GMT -5
From twitter jok1213 jo @ @shoshannastone Do you know when BTIKM will go to Uk radio stations so Adam fans can start requesting it to be played .Thx :-) 45 minutes ago in reply to ↑ @shoshannastone shoshanna stone @jok1213 This week 25 minutes ago via web Looks like we UK fans will have to get our act together! So it means that the song will be available for digital download much earlier than the previously stated date - March, 12. Good!
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Post by lifetraveler on Jan 24, 2012 17:20:26 GMT -5
Yeah, this has been posted before in the Numbers thread. She is a PD from Buffalo. We angsted about it for a while yesterday and then we moved on. It IS the opinion of just ONE person, so while not happy puppies, it's not the end of the world either.
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Jan 24, 2012 17:20:34 GMT -5
Has this been posted? From some program director in New York. <snip> @shannonssteele Only 131 plays in the entire country this week, 31of those overnight [licks lolly and laughs] Yep, this was posted yesterday, and more importantly it shows that 75% of the plays were during prime daylight hours. Whaddya want from a song?!!!
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Post by Velvet Glammine on Jan 24, 2012 17:20:40 GMT -5
Has this been posted? From some program director in New York. @shannonssteele *pretty much everyone I know in programming is disappointed. It won't go very far up the charts. Unfortunate because I'm a big fan of him as a artist! *you're forgetting three important words: in my opinion! I'm all about open dialogue but will not tolerate being bullied about my opinion. I've programmed radio for a long time, I'm extremely good at it. *not even close! The reviews from actual critics are not good. Only 131 plays in the entire country this week, 31of those overnight *hey now, don't be angry, that tude is uncalled for. And being treated like this will ensure the song doesn't get played! *my dear YOU are making fans of this amazing artist look bad. Just to put this woman's opinion in perspective...(scroll to middle) I don't think Adam is her cup of tea. fansofdavid.com/?p=15357Well that is a bit creepy how into David Archuletta she is!
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Jan 24, 2012 17:22:21 GMT -5
[hands bridgeymah a sugarless karmic kreme]
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Post by mika on Jan 24, 2012 17:22:39 GMT -5
I have deleted my tl:dr post in the interest of peace and - gdi - am once again too late to the horse thrashing! But I am unable to let go of one point.
Personally, I'm not worried (yet) based on history of many album releases and that it is early days and I'm not giving much weight to one not very impressive radio guy.
HOWEVER, when you whip people up, extol the importance of radio play, the importance of this first single, etc - and then lend credence to some random radio guy's assertion that the outlook is not good - and hey Radio isn't the important thing anyway (when the drumbeat has always been the importance of radio play and single success to power the album) -- THEN please, please don't be surprised, condescending and/or dismissive of people who respond with concern. It is a reasonable response given the circumstances.
The trend to 'pat' and talk down to anyone who expresses alarm or concern at news that merits concern is not respectful in the true sense. 'Angst-shaming' should not be our go-to. This isn't Pleasantville or Stepford. (And let's be fair - most of the angst finger pointers have had their panties in a tangle about something at some point over last 3 yrs. Hey, you know you have, don't look at me that way.)
Some people (inclding pwkt reportedly) were making noises like BTIKM is done or on its way to being written off and 'hey there'll be more singles soon.' And how was this supposed to affect people who've been putting heart and soul into supporting BTIKM and the all important radio play - and still are?
As for Adam, I'm sure he sits in contentious meetings about what numbers mean ALL THE TIME (and pros/cons of singles along with second guessing). I don't think a little intense dialogue of 'what does this mean' would phase him or depress him even if he saw it. I think he would respect how hard this fandom tries to understand the nuts and bolts necessary to his success.
(YES my original was much, much longer - really.)
Finally I love Hoppers (more than ice cream) - I would be Watson to her Holmes (BBC version of course) anyday. She can even ask what goes on in my funny little dull brain. She haz FACTS instead of inflammatory speculation -- AND LOLLIES! What's not to love really?
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Post by annietoo on Jan 24, 2012 17:26:02 GMT -5
Has this been posted? From some program director in New York. @shannonssteele *pretty much everyone I know in programming is disappointed. It won't go very far up the charts. Unfortunate because I'm a big fan of him as a artist! *you're forgetting three important words: in my opinion! I'm all about open dialogue but will not tolerate being bullied about my opinion. I've programmed radio for a long time, I'm extremely good at it. *not even close! The reviews from actual critics are not good. Only 131 plays in the entire country this week, 31of those overnight *hey now, don't be angry, that tude is uncalled for. And being treated like this will ensure the song doesn't get played! *my dear YOU are making fans of this amazing artist look bad. Just to put this woman's opinion in perspective...(scroll to middle) I don't think Adam is her cup of tea. fansofdavid.com/?p=15357and more: She's from Christian Radio.... " Coming to THE JOY FM is a full-circle move for STEELE: "I started my journey in Christian radio in my hometown, BIRMINGHAM" www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/98625/new-morning-afternoon-lineups-coming-to-wvfj-atlanhehe...somehow this all makes sense now. I'm okay with it Very Interesting. Is there something in particular to look at though, I didn't get what you meant about scrolling to the middle?
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Jan 24, 2012 17:26:25 GMT -5
Finally I love Hoppers (more than ice cream) - I would be Watson to her Holmes (BBC version of course) anyday. She can even ask what goes on in my funny little dull brain. She haz FACTS instead of inflammatory speculation -- AND LOLLIES! What's not to love really?Occasionally icky twisted underwear apparently. ;D [checks panties] Good for now!! [laughs, does a wiggle dance, and blows kisses to mika] ETA: Oh heck, I'll write a new post....hold on....
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