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Post by pi on Jun 22, 2024 13:14:14 GMT -5
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Post by pi on Jun 22, 2024 13:36:08 GMT -5
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Post by lurleene on Jun 22, 2024 16:00:50 GMT -5
The music business is a crap shoot at best. Talent often goes to waste unnoticed while marginal or no-talents go home with armloads of awards. Adam feels this more than anybody. I just don't understand why a strong label doesn't step up and help him. So much of his music has broad appeal. It's as good as anybody's out there. He's got the talent. And at this point, it can't be the gay thing. So I'm at a loss to understand the real reason why he can't get label support and some decent radio play. Guess i just don't gest it. I don't believe it was totally a gay thing either. I do think his team held on to the pop star dream for far too long. Adam was on the older side when he came into the industry. Then Pop pretty much turned into the young women dominating the genre with a few younger men breaking thru. When they had the regime change at RCA before the release of Trespassing, they did not view Adam as a pop artist but felt he belonged in Pop/rock or Rock. I read that interview from the top guys and felt unease about him getting the support he had received with his first album. They did say they wanted to get him a #1 album tho. But I think the reason they did not support his #1 album, by getting him radio pay, was to make their point. Who doesn't support an artist with a #1 album? That lack of radio play really hurt him. When he got so little of it, it killed the album and he never recovered with pop radio. And it didn't help that RCA had recently merged with Jive and brought over Chris Brown, Britney, Pink and Timberlake. They were proven big pop and dance artists who had been in the games since their teens. They could focused on them for pop success instead of a thirty year old on just his second album. Plus they had Kelly Clarkson also from Idol but she was also a proven and successful pop artist. I will never forget how she released an album a week before Adam and her number of radio adds were off the charts. When he released the following week, I could have cried over his tepid adds. The difference was upsetting. But I thank the universe that Adam survived and found success in his own way. |
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Post by pi on Jun 22, 2024 16:44:36 GMT -5
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Post by pi on Jun 22, 2024 16:47:22 GMT -5
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Post by pi on Jun 22, 2024 16:52:18 GMT -5
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Post by girldrummer on Jun 22, 2024 16:57:06 GMT -5
All true, of course, lurleene. Adam started out as an older AI contestant. Sure, teens liked him on the show, but that demo was never his major one. And the twists and turns you described never were a clear path to radio.
He is making his own path, that's for sure. And it likely won't be a regular cycle of new album/tour. He's found media attention and respect in many countries, often for his music and voice, but also for his advocacy for LGBT+ issues. He's building a brand in his own way. It's his choice. I just want more new music along with it.
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Post by sizzling63 on Jun 22, 2024 17:52:09 GMT -5
I think that "coming out" is a very personal choice and I don't resent or judge anybody who delays it or stays closeted, be it a music artist, an actor, a business person, or anybody, as long as no one gets hurt along the way. Clearly, for artists there is a career on the line. As for Adam, I don't think he could have kept his sexuality a secret, even if if he had wanted to, as freedom to express himself has always been very important to him. Additionally, he was already out in LA prior to Idol and there were already pictures floating around. Somehow he didn't fully click with mainstream audiences, though his OG fandom has always been fully behind him (besides those who lost interest after the FYE rollout). As Randy Jackson once said, it may have been "too much too early". I wish I knew the answer to why he never got the radio push that others got, despite the #1 album with TP, but from what I have been gathering in over a decade there are more factors in play in addition to album sales to determine the popularity of an artist (I for instance have always bought several albums of any release).
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Post by pi on Jun 22, 2024 17:53:26 GMT -5
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Post by lurleene on Jun 22, 2024 18:12:54 GMT -5
girldrummer, true there was never a clear path to radio for Adam. And in some cases, his sexuality was sometimes in play in some markets. In my neck of the woods and my favorite station, they would play Kris, Cook, Kelly and Daughtry as soon as they had new music out but not Adam. But Idol was a big deal so the childish males on the show would find the time to joke about Adam being gay but not play him. Ugh. Once he reached top 20, then they did. But by then, he was starting to fall in the earlier markets so it did not help much. And they could soon drop him. It was so shi**y. I stopped listening to that station. People at early RCA even mentioned how they fought to get him on the radio. Unfortunately, he no longer had that team with his second album release and with the new heads or RCA. But Adam thrived on those top 20 countdowns and music shows on MTV. They loved him more than the other male Idols and always had him in heavy rotation on the various shows. Great exposure for him. I always looked forward to seeing him. But then those shows eventually went off the air, one by one, so his public exposure decreased. But like you said, Adam is building his brand the way he wants.
sizzling63, the resentment was not towards those who did not come out. It is a personal choice. And I agree, Adam was always out. The resentment was for radio and labels that did not support and push for Adam. At least that was how I meant it. HA.
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