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Post by murly on Apr 7, 2012 12:53:12 GMT -5
Each child was asked to wear THEIR own shirt. "EACH" IS ONE PERSON, SO SHOULD BE "HIS" OR "HER," NOT "THEIR." I deliberately use "their" in that situation in the hope that our language will evolve to be gender-neutral when referring to one in a group of mixed gender persons or to a person of unknown gender. (I don't mean when you're talking about drag queens; I mean when you're talking about a nonspecific person.) I know it's considered correct to use a male pronoun when the person could be either male or female, but I think that's sexist. If anything, it would make more sense to use a female pronoun, because women are the majority and femaleness is the default gender--all fetuses start out as female and need a male hormone to turn male. I think "they" has a vagueness to it that is appropriate for instances when the gender is nonspecific. Some may quibble with using a plural pronoun to refer to a single person, but our language has many inconsistencies. We use a plural form of a verb with the single pronoun "you": "You are not going to like this." We use an object form of "-self" when referring to herself, himself, or themselves, but a possessive form when referring to myself, ourselves, or yourself. Also, would you say, "Everybody was at the party, and he all had a good time"? It doesn't seem like that big of a stretch to me to say "Each child should put on their coat" when it serves the purpose of making the language more inclusive. |
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Post by savvy92 on Apr 7, 2012 12:57:04 GMT -5
Each child was asked to wear THEIR own shirt. "EACH" IS ONE PERSON, SO SHOULD BE "HIS" OR "HER," NOT "THEIR." I deliberately use "their" in that situation in the hope that our language will evolve to be gender-neutral when referring to one in a group of mixed gender persons or to a person of unknown gender. (I don't mean when you're talking about drag queens; I mean when you're talking about a nonspecific person.) I know it's considered correct to use a male pronoun when the person could be either male or female, but I think that's sexist. If anything, it would make more sense to use a female pronoun, because women are the majority and femaleness is the default gender--all fetuses start out as female and need a male hormone to turn male. I think "they" has a vagueness to it that is appropriate for instances when the gender is nonspecific. Some may quibble with using a plural pronoun to refer to a single person, but our language has many inconsistencies. We use a plural form of a verb with the single pronoun "you": "You are not going to like this." We use an object form of "-self" when referring to herself, himself, or themselves, but a possessive form when referring to myself, ourselves, or yourself. Also, would you say, "Everybody was at the party, and he all had a good time"? It doesn't seem like that big of a stretch to me to say "Each child should put on their coat" when it serves the purpose of making the language more inclusive. But, but, but IT'S WRONG. Their means MORE THAN ONE!! I had an ongoing battle with one of my golf pros when I did a corporate newsletter. He had been an English teacher and knew it was wrong, but found it easier to use "their." His feeling that the other 987 employees would not know the difference, and he was probably right. Okay, I surrender. I ain't gonna worry about youns no more. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2012 13:01:42 GMT -5
Grammar according to Adam:
Adam sang amazingly well in Moscow (Moscoe), which is the capital of Russia. The show was so good, its main quality being Adam's ultra sexiness... the audience was mesmerized, shaking their asses all the time. They're obviously all Glamberts to the last.
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Post by savvy92 on Apr 7, 2012 13:03:13 GMT -5
Grammar according to Adam: Adam sang amazingly well in Moscow (Moscoe), which is the capital of Russia. The show was so good, its main quality being Adam's ultra sexiness... the audience was mesmerized, shaking their asses all the time. They're obviously all Glamberts to the last. I can definitely get on board with this! |
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Post by bertiebotts on Apr 7, 2012 13:08:09 GMT -5
Pearl @metalempress Reply Retweet Favorite · Open I scanned this photo of Adam Lambert from "People's American Idol Where Are They Now?" Issue.  Beautiful! I'm watching 2012 now on finnish tv channel TV5. Haven't watch it before. |
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Post by ame on Apr 7, 2012 13:09:04 GMT -5
And one pic from Cobalt  Awww  I hope it's okay that I used it as my avi ♥ |
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Post by bertiebotts on Apr 7, 2012 13:13:10 GMT -5
Beautiful avi, ame!!
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Post by SusieFierce on Apr 7, 2012 13:13:11 GMT -5
Each child was asked to wear THEIR own shirt. "EACH" IS ONE PERSON, SO SHOULD BE "HIS" OR "HER," NOT "THEIR." I deliberately use "their" in that situation in the hope that our language will evolve to be gender-neutral when referring to one in a group of mixed gender persons or to a person of unknown gender. (I don't mean when you're talking about drag queens; I mean when you're talking about a nonspecific person.) I know it's considered correct to use a male pronoun when the person could be either male or female, but I think that's sexist. If anything, it would make more sense to use a female pronoun, because women are the majority and femaleness is the default gender--all fetuses start out as female and need a male hormone to turn male. I think "they" has a vagueness to it that is appropriate for instances when the gender is nonspecific. Some may quibble with using a plural pronoun to refer to a single person, but our language has many inconsistencies. We use a plural form of a verb with the single pronoun "you": "You are not going to like this." We use an object form of "-self" when referring to herself, himself, or themselves, but a possessive form when referring to myself, ourselves, or yourself. Also, would you say, "Everybody was at the party, and he all had a good time"? It doesn't seem like that big of a stretch to me to say "Each child should put on their coat" when it serves the purpose of making the language more inclusive. I know in the parenting magazine industry, if a story needs examples referring to a singular child, we rotate the gender. In one article, we'll use "him" and "his" but in the next story, we use "her" and "hers." The main thing is to keep it consistent throughout the piece once you've decided which gender to use. If it's not necessary to pick a gender, we'll use "they" "them" and "him or her" on a mention or two. ETA: It's a little weird though, since we often refer to "your child" in a general sense and it can apply to one or many, depending on the reader. For instance: What do you do when your child throws a tantrum in the grocery store? Remove him or her and tell them this behavior is not acceptable. Whether the child is male or female or more than one is not known and is not relevant. |
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Post by Lolly on Apr 7, 2012 13:15:44 GMT -5
RT @melirose89 for any1 that doesnt know Brian London was in the zodiac show w/ Adam. go to thezodiacshow.com, click under bios, then band and hes there  |
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Post by murly on Apr 7, 2012 13:19:36 GMT -5
I deliberately use "their" in that situation in the hope that our language will evolve to be gender-neutral when referring to one in a group of mixed gender persons or to a person of unknown gender. (I don't mean when you're talking about drag queens; I mean when you're talking about a nonspecific person.) I know it's considered correct to use a male pronoun when the person could be either male or female, but I think that's sexist. If anything, it would make more sense to use a female pronoun, because women are the majority and femaleness is the default gender--all fetuses start out as female and need a male hormone to turn male. I think "they" has a vagueness to it that is appropriate for instances when the gender is nonspecific. Some may quibble with using a plural pronoun to refer to a single person, but our language has many inconsistencies. We use a plural form of a verb with the single pronoun "you": "You are not going to like this." We use an object form of "-self" when referring to herself, himself, or themselves, but a possessive form when referring to myself, ourselves, or yourself. Also, would you say, "Everybody was at the party, and he all had a good time"? It doesn't seem like that big of a stretch to me to say "Each child should put on their coat" when it serves the purpose of making the language more inclusive. But, but, but IT'S WRONG. Their means MORE THAN ONE!! I had an ongoing battle with one of my golf pros when I did a corporate newsletter. He had been an English teacher and knew it was wrong, but found it easier to use "their." His feeling that the other 987 employees would not know the difference, and he was probably right. Okay, I surrender. I ain't gonna worry about youns no more. It's wrong until it evolves to being right. Language does change. Did you know that the word "bird" used to mean only a baby bird? And that the words "strenuous," "spurious," and "clumsy" were once considered slang? The study of the evolution of language is fascinating to me. It's difficult to force it to evolve, but when a mistake is made often enough by a large segment of the population--and especially when the mistake serves a purpose--it can eventually be considered mainstream and correct. |
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