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Post by JazzRocks on Oct 25, 2012 15:48:39 GMT -5
I bet a lot of fans bought the paid for the EP down load on AO as well as the CDs just to help the numbers on the EP. That is what I did. I know I bought 3 and gifted 2 eps to my kids which makes me worth 5 people. I am certain that many fans made multiple purchases. It is a true mystery. I don't believe that it sold less than 2,000 because that would mean just 500 fans buying 4 eps or 1,000 fans buying 2 for example. We may not be a huge fan base but judging by our power in online polls we are big enough and determined enough to push things and the ep release is no exception. idk how many it sold, but many fans were confused about what to do. First we were told to concentrate on the ep. Then we were told that Adam's people wanted us to buy the remixes without completing the ep. Then we were told to buy the ep, and to forget about remixes. Also, thanks to lack of promotion, dedicated fans alone know that Adam has an ep out. Many casual fans didn't even know that Adam had a new ALBUM out until they watched PLL.
Clusterfuck. This is so true. But even so, with just dedicated fans buying (multiple copies), there STILL should be way more than 2-3K sold. And WTF would AO (RCA) offer a free DL & not ship the hard copies the first week - both decisions negatively impacted his position on the BB chart. It's almost as though they were working against him. |
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Post by jean1010 on Oct 25, 2012 16:28:55 GMT -5
Well, I guess it is possible for various reason including not many people knowing about the EP and fan confusion, that it didn't sell enough to chart. It seems fans should have figured out that buying everything the sellers allowed and they could afford was the way to go.
I am just so used to the fandom doing such amazing things that I fully expected it to chart. After all we got Trespassing to number one on BB.
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Post by nica575 on Oct 25, 2012 18:44:27 GMT -5
Well, I guess it is possible for various reason including not many people knowing about the EP and fan confusion, that it didn't sell enough to chart. It seems fans should have figured out that buying everything the sellers allowed and they could afford was the way to go. I am just so used to the fandom doing such amazing things that I fully expected it to chart. After all we got Trespassing to number one on BB. IDK... something is weird, given the fact that the hard EP was sold out on AO. I doubt they would print under 5K units for sale...but I am confused with what is being counted and what is not... |
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Post by JazzRocks on Oct 25, 2012 19:08:08 GMT -5
Well, I guess it is possible for various reason including not many people knowing about the EP and fan confusion, that it didn't sell enough to chart. It seems fans should have figured out that buying everything the sellers allowed and they could afford was the way to go. I am just so used to the fandom doing such amazing things that I fully expected it to chart. After all we got Trespassing to number one on BB. IDK... something is weird, given the fact that the hard EP was sold out on AO. I doubt they would print under 5K units for sale...but I am confused with what is being counted and what is not... But the hard copies were not counted for the first week sales because they hadn't yet shipped. And Jean - I don't know if you're on twitter. I am and I can tell you fans were doing an incredible job of buying & gifting. I really don't know how much more we could have done. I guess there just weren't enough of us. I just don't know. |
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Post by jean1010 on Oct 25, 2012 19:46:24 GMT -5
IDK... something is weird, given the fact that the hard EP was sold out on AO. I doubt they would print under 5K units for sale...but I am confused with what is being counted and what is not... But the hard copies were not counted for the first week sales because they hadn't yet shipped. And Jean - I don't know if you're on twitter. I am and I can tell you fans were doing an incredible job of buying & gifting. I really don't know how much more we could have done. I guess there just weren't enough of us. I just don't know. Jazz, I have a Twitter account which I got to add my tiny little number to Adam's twitter count. I have been tweeting my local station, and when instructed to by atop like to SNL today, but I do not have a clue of how to get on Twitter in the way you mean. I have a serious case of Tech Phobia. That first tweet I sent to my local station was very traumatic for me. It did not do any good either. |
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Post by evamaria on Oct 25, 2012 19:56:40 GMT -5
IDK... something is weird, given the fact that the hard EP was sold out on AO. I doubt they would print under 5K units for sale...but I am confused with what is being counted and what is not... But the hard copies were not counted for the first week sales because they hadn't yet shipped. And Jean - I don't know if you're on twitter. I am and I can tell you fans were doing an incredible job of buying & gifting. I really don't know how much more we could have done. I guess there just weren't enough of us. I just don't know. An ep is less likely to create huge excitement, even among dedicated fans. idk how reliable wiki is, but it says that the acoustic live ep sold 28,000 to date, which is 1/36 of the million+ fye sold. If we do 1/36 of 150,000 (tsp total sales) we get 4200, which is, probably, what this ep will ultimately sell. I guess the numbers aren't that surprising. btw ao sales have never counted for first week. I remember this discussion happening for everything sold through ao, ever. |
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Post by jean1010 on Oct 25, 2012 20:28:42 GMT -5
But the hard copies were not counted for the first week sales because they hadn't yet shipped. And Jean - I don't know if you're on twitter. I am and I can tell you fans were doing an incredible job of buying & gifting. I really don't know how much more we could have done. I guess there just weren't enough of us. I just don't know. An ep is less likely to create huge excitement, even among dedicated fans. idk how reliable wiki is, but it says that the acoustic live ep sold 28,000 to date, which is 1/36 of the million+ fye sold. If we do 1/36 of 150,000 (tsp total sales) we get 4200, which is, probably, what this ep will ultimately sell. I guess the numbers aren't that surprising. btw ao sales have never counted for first week. I remember this discussion happening for everything sold through ao, ever. I don't know how other fans feel, but I was very motivated to make this release as successful as possible, and bought, gifted and donated as much as I financially could. For me, the difference was that FYE didn't need nearly as much support as Trespassing so I stepped up and did a lot more. I bet I am not alone in increasing previous support. But it did not chart so obviously not enough was bought by fans regardless of how much many tried. |
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Post by JazzRocks on Oct 26, 2012 7:18:35 GMT -5
But the hard copies were not counted for the first week sales because they hadn't yet shipped. And Jean - I don't know if you're on twitter. I am and I can tell you fans were doing an incredible job of buying & gifting. I really don't know how much more we could have done. I guess there just weren't enough of us. I just don't know. Jazz, I have a Twitter account which I got to add my tiny little number to Adam's twitter count. I have been tweeting my local station, and when instructed to by atop like to SNL today, but I do not have a clue of how to get on Twitter in the way you mean. I have a serious case of Tech Phobia. That first tweet I sent to my local station was very traumatic for me. It did not do any good either. I tweet my radio stations every day and it does no good either. Very frustrating - but not giving up. What is your twitter name? I'll follow you. Do you follow people? |
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Post by jean1010 on Oct 26, 2012 11:32:50 GMT -5
Jazz, I have a Twitter account which I got to add my tiny little number to Adam's twitter count. I have been tweeting my local station, and when instructed to by atop like to SNL today, but I do not have a clue of how to get on Twitter in the way you mean. I have a serious case of Tech Phobia. That first tweet I sent to my local station was very traumatic for me. It did not do any good either. I tweet my radio stations every day and it does no good either. Very frustrating - but not giving up. What is your twitter name? I'll follow you. Do you follow people? The wake up call that the EP release gave me is that this has got to be a very small hard core fan base if all the multiple buying and gifting could not get him on BB200 which now days is only a couple thousand at the bottom end. It is amazing that we achieve as much as we do. Jazz, Thanks for volunteering to follow me. I really never tweet except now and again for our cause. I follow some celebs, left winged pundits, and a few "free thinkers", but no regular people. I am @eddyhome1010. I could follow you too, but I am worried that I could not figure out how to do it. |
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Post by JazzRocks on Oct 26, 2012 15:50:17 GMT -5
Jean - I just followed you. When you get my tweet you can click on my name & then click on follow. To reply to me just click "reply" under my tweet & type in the box & click "tweet" Maybe this info is too basic & you know all this. If so, forgive me.  I can send you a few people from Atop to follow if you want. I'll wait on that....
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