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Post by bullsfan on Jun 20, 2012 10:33:23 GMT -5
Adam also said Trespassing was a "make or break" album for him, so he must be a little concerned. Honestly, I hope things can turn around. And I hope the Queen concerts give him some much deserved respect and exposure in Europe. I just remember seeing his schedule back last Spring and wondering how he was going to fit everything in. I also worried that his own material might get lost in all of it. It just feels like Trespassing is slipping away; in the US, anyway.
Hopefully, RCA was wise enough to have some kind of "Plan B" set for the fall.
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Post by JazzRocks on Jun 20, 2012 10:33:36 GMT -5
The official Numbers thread is pretty gloomy right now. If that continues we may not need another "dark" thread. ???
Just a few comments on the topics already under discussion here:
Radio homophobia - I don't think it's blatant but I do think it exists. I'm not saying PDs are necessarily homophobic themselves. I do think they fear backlash from some advertisers who support a conservative agenda. Conservative when it comes to male homosexuality I mean. How else can we explain radio's reluctance to accept the "HE" in Fever when Pink's new single is called "Blow Me" (and yes I know it continues with "one last kiss", but there are enough other examples of divas and straight rappers with sexual lyrics). And the consensus among fans seems to be that neither Shady nor Naked Love would be acceptable to radio because of the gay vibe.
Sales of Trespassing - I find it surprising that sales aren't stronger given the publicity of the "#1 Album". Isn't that an accomplishment that would normally generate more sales?
Queen gigs - I have no way of knowing if this is true or not but a UK resident and strong Adam fan stated on twitter that the younger generation that Adam needs in the UK as well as in the US will not be impressed by his performances with Queen because Queen is not on their radar. Anyone from the UK want to comment on that?
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Post by durberville on Jun 20, 2012 10:38:23 GMT -5
I don't know what to think anymore. When NCOE was was picked as the 2nd single I was confident that there were agreements to play the song. Guess not.
I"m holding out hope for a scenario similar to that of the Gaga phenomenon.....didn't she break in Europe before being widely accepted in the US?
Not going to question Adam's Queen gigs or their timing....worldwide exposure to non-fans - that's PRICELESS. He can tour and visit radio stations here in the US "til the cows come home" (thankyou mom) but that's not getting him new fans - just look at the numbers.
(Really concerned that Trespassing hasn't a chance in hell of getting any Grammy nods unless there's a hit single... *sighs*)
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Post by bullsfan on Jun 20, 2012 10:39:20 GMT -5
I agree JazzRocks, the only place where I see homophobia maybe playing a part is when it comes to what singles radio will accept---and the fact that LMFAO can sing, " I've got passion in my pants and I ain't afraid to show it," but Adam may not be able to release a song titled "Naked Love." That isn't right.
I do think someone dropped the ball in terms of the #1 album---his label/management should have gotten him a bunch more mainstream exposure for this. IMO.
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Post by durberville on Jun 20, 2012 10:41:07 GMT -5
I think Adam should tour with One Direction!
*grins and runs out of the thread*
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Post by tigerlily on Jun 20, 2012 10:43:44 GMT -5
If RCA continues to support and push an album that has dropped out of the BB200 it will be pretty unusual. I think the 2013 talk came with the assumption that there would be hit songs to promote. If RCA was planning on having the album "take off" after Queen and the UK, then they would have waited to release in September. If we look at the past patterns, the facts say that albums that fall out of the BB200, don't get more supported singles. The exception would be those artists who are mostly singles sellers in the first place and already have a couple of big hit singles. At this point, Adam doesn't have that. I really hope the album can hang on for another month or so until Adam can get back to the states. If it can, they could release another single at that time.(if situations call for it) If TSP is out of the BB200, they will probably still release single #3. I just don't know how much support it will get from the record label. :( |
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Post by tigerlily on Jun 20, 2012 10:47:56 GMT -5
I think Adam should tour with One Direction! *grins and runs out of the thread* That Oily Mars chap already has that gig! lol I wouldn't be against touring with someone who largely appeals to the younger crowd or someone who appeals to the gay community. |
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Post by tigerlily on Jun 20, 2012 11:04:49 GMT -5
I don't know, in most cases, I think, the strategy for 2 flopped singles would be: new project. Or, take some time to go back to the drawing board to figure out where to go from here. What would Adam be doing promo-wise if he was in the US? Showing up on TV, hitting CHR stations (including new ones he didn't visit before), booking more summer radio festivals, meeting up with Nile and Sam, going to Australia and New Zealand and spending more time in Canada, being VISIBLE. The best time for promo opportunities is in the early weeks of an album drop (apart from award show time). Adam is with a very good management company---the wouldn't have him sitting around.I am excited for Queen. But, as it gets closer I am waiting to see just how much exposure and buzz it will get Adam. Or, will it be the right kind of exposure he needs at the moment to advance his own project. Obviously, this must be a dream for him, so I am happy. And I hope it gets big press in the UK and Europe. But, I think the timing could have been a bit better (although that's not in his hands) ^^^This!!! This is the same thing I said in my answer to the same question in the number's thread. It's the summer, there are endless radio shows to do! There are always new radio stations to visit. There are shows and opportunities in Canada. There are shows that still run in the summer like Leno, The View, SYTYCD, the morning shows, etc. The performances with Queen are a wonderful opportunity for Adam, but the timing and the amount of time it is taking away from a critical time in the album cycle is worrisome. There are VERY FEW examples of a third single working on radio, after the first two failed to work. The only example I can think of is Nikki Minaj, but her record label pulled her first two failing singles FAST, delayed her album, and made sure she had a big hit in place before they released her album. |
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Post by bullsfan on Jun 20, 2012 11:05:52 GMT -5
I totally agree, Tigerlily. Now would not be the time to spend money and energy on another headlining tour which would be playing to the same fans. RCA need to look at other avenues like opening or sharing the headline with another appropriate act. Maybe even look to get him featured on a song appealing to the young/CHR/rap audience (can't believe I am saying that, but it is an option)
The other thing with radio---imo, Adam just needs to get into the top 40. I am not an expert, but this milestone opens doors. This is the key, I believe to getting an add at Z100. If he was in the US, he would have the opportunity to work a few more key stations in order to reach that number of spins that pushes a song top 40. No guarantees, of course, but a few more stations REALLY spinning to get him there.
eta---I agree, Durberville, I am really sad about what all this might mean for his Grammy chances. Trespassing received 4 stars from RS, he was looking at, imo, an excellent chance at a nomination.
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Post by nid55 on Jun 20, 2012 11:24:55 GMT -5
As a fan in one of the Asian country, I have to say I’m disappointed that TPS doesn’t do well in these countries including Japan. I might be wrong, but it seems to me that most countries in Asia follow trends from the U.S. The radio stations in my country (Thailand) just play hit songs from the U.S. and that why I’ve heard WWFM a lot and not yet once of NCOE. So, I wonder if TPS could be successful internationally without being a big album in the U.S. I know Asian market is just a small one and not so significant but I want Adam to be a worldwide star. ok! I feel better now having expressed some of my frustrations. Thank you Q3 for giving us this thread I think Adam should tour with One Direction! *grins and runs out of the thread* I'm glad that there's still humor in this thread. |
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