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Post by bullsfan on Jun 20, 2012 11:31:15 GMT -5
nid55---Adam has basically done no international promo yet. He did a bunch last era (the staggered releases probably made it easier.) I think it's still too early to tell internationally.
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Post by nid55 on Jun 20, 2012 11:52:03 GMT -5
nid55---Adam has basically done no international promo yet. He did a bunch last era (the staggered releases probably made it easier.) I think it's still too early to tell internationally. Thanks bullsfan. I think I need to be more patient. |
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Post by nica575 on Jun 20, 2012 12:51:58 GMT -5
I don't know, in most cases, I think, the strategy for 2 flopped singles would be: new project. Or, take some time to go back to the drawing board to figure out where to go from here. What would Adam be doing promo-wise if he was in the US? Showing up on TV, hitting CHR stations (including new ones he didn't visit before), booking more summer radio festivals, meeting up with Nile and Sam, going to Australia and New Zealand and spending more time in Canada, being VISIBLE. The best time for promo opportunities is in the early weeks of an album drop (apart from award show time). Adam is with a very good management company---the wouldn't have him sitting around.I am excited for Queen. But, as it gets closer I am waiting to see just how much exposure and buzz it will get Adam. Or, will it be the right kind of exposure he needs at the moment to advance his own project. Obviously, this must be a dream for him, so I am happy. And I hope it gets big press in the UK and Europe. But, I think the timing could have been a bit better (although that's not in his hands) ^^^This!!! This is the same thing I said in my answer to the same question in the number's thread. It's the summer, there are endless radio shows to do! There are always new radio stations to visit. There are shows and opportunities in Canada. There are shows that still run in the summer like Leno, The View, SYTYCD, the morning shows, etc. The performances with Queen are a wonderful opportunity for Adam, but the timing and the amount of time it is taking away from a critical time in the album cycle is worrisome. There are VERY FEW examples of a third single working on radio, after the first two failed to work. The only example I can think of is Nikki Minaj, but her record label pulled her first two failing singles FAST, delayed her album, and made sure she had a big hit in place before they released her album. -He is doing the album promo in UK as well - not only Queen stuff. -He is having a time of his life! Unfortunately B &R are not getting younger - who knows how long they will be willing or able to perform - Adam has his chance at this epic singing NOW! -He is making money that might be able to help finance the tour -He is still doing radio concerts flying to SF in June and doing 3 concerts in LA right after EU -He is happy and exited about being in London and working with his idols -selfish me: I can't listen to NCOE any more (which I would be doing if he were visiting radio stations), so a couple of weeks of different music from Adam is a huge relief...-Adam will not be opening for anyone - not in his nature IMO |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2012 12:56:14 GMT -5
Tweet of the day ;D
Michelleþ@insomniac19
Adam should release a song called Blow Me (like P!NK) and dedicate it to all the radio stations everywhere. They won't play it anyway so no harm!
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Post by swarm on Jun 20, 2012 12:56:47 GMT -5
To address your specific issues surrounding the sexuality discussion: No Jessie J doesn't count. First, there is no ick factor with women, especially random self identified bisexuals or even Gaga with her faux bi narrative. Female bisexuality is a turn on for men. Furthermore, bisexuality (especially female) is a hotly debated topic in the LGBT community, albeit inconsequential to the mainstream pop music listener far removed from anything to do with it. She was a pop star in the UK before she identified as bi. In fact she already charted here with her first US #23 before then with Price Tag ftr BOB. Domino, her second single to chart here, charted just months after her huge "coming out" announcement which was on some British radio interview last year. She had very little press here until lately on the topic. The kiss between Madonna and Britney was accepted, in fact celebrated, by the media and nobody was blackballed from tv like Lambert. In fact after the AMAs The Early Show had the shot of the girls on screen next to the shot of his AMA kiss and CENSORED HIS KISS AND NOT THEIRS. He made the point right there and then and continued to use that as an example of double standards. Jessie J is a nobody in this context and frankly most other contexts until lately. Hardly compares to Lambert's AMA crotch dive burned into the conscious of America, and the inescapable discussion of his sexuality about 5000 times before and after. Here's a non-rambling clarification: Adam Lambert is the first well known singer who was openly gay since the beginning of his career. All other gay men who came out after becoming famous failed to reach #1 on Billboard 200 again. Even Elton John notes this interesting fact. It'll be interesting to see how she does now that Out and other media have recently glommed onto her sexuality. The more the merrier. Misery loves company lol. This is not to say your points of Idol fatigue, oversaturation and the 1.5 year lapse combined with the "youth invasion" on pop are invalid, imo. It is true, however, that anything you spin over and over becomes popular, at least enough to reach top 15 or 20. Adele was considered a flop here until her SNL appearance with Sarah Palin, with the highest viewership in like, 17 years. The more confusing question is how can all of Trespassing's cowriters create hundreds of hits for everyone not named Adam Lambert, including 4-6 hits on Cali Gurl....but when writing for him, completely loose their skills and industry expertise? Google niggas gay Adam Lambert. It's a lyric in a rap song. When niggas gay Jessie J shows up...oh wait. that would actually be a better rhyme.  Thanks for this. We actually appear to be saying the same thing. Some fans with their denials are even indirectly saying Adam is lying about the gay he has himself referenced so many times as a factor, lol. Meanwhile, you had better answer the poster below you. She already indicated you might be me just because you decided to have an opinion contrary to hers, when all she could have just done was ask a mod to check the IP and location addresses. HAHAHA I am swarm. On Twitter and Queerty. My Queerty Screen name was changed from swarm last year to ScaryRussianHeather in honor of Sutan Amrull's 5 year par amour. But I have several years of posting cred that can be evaluated.  In addition to posting on LGBT issues not called Adam Lambert, in 2009 my Q friends and I studied GLAAD's 501c3's returns to determine just how deeply they were in bed with ABC. You will see my friend Romeo complaining about having to do tax returns on Sunday instead of going to the tea dance lol. Jarrett Barrios was shamed into finally giving a better supported statement of Adam after 4 tries. He subsequently has been forced to resign due to corruption. It's all there. Pages and pages of threads. By now most Adam long time contributors have moved on off of the site except me. Here's today's contribution on the subject: GLAAD @glaad The ‘little b:’ Bisexuals lag in social acceptance www.glaad.org/news/little-b-bisexuals-lag-social-acceptance via @current #LGBT #bi #bisexual |
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Post by gbam on Jun 20, 2012 13:12:15 GMT -5
As a fan in one of the Asian country, I have to say I’m disappointed that TPS doesn’t do well in these countries including Japan. I might be wrong, but it seems to me that most countries in Asia follow trends from the U.S. The radio stations in my country (Thailand) just play hit songs from the U.S. and that why I’ve heard WWFM a lot and not yet once of NCOE. So, I wonder if TPS could be successful internationally without being a big album in the U.S. I know Asian market is just a small one and not so significant but I want Adam to be a worldwide star. ok! I feel better now having expressed some of my frustrations. Thank you Q3 for giving us this thread I think Adam should tour with One Direction! *grins and runs out of the thread* I'm glad that there's still humor in this thread. I addressed this point in one of my posts too i.e. most smaller countries follow American music trends and this what makes me more angry at the American radio system. They just have such a big influence. And it is not just because he is yet to do promotion as he already did in some of these countries and they are still not playing his singles. He was in Germany, Sweden and a few other Nordic countries earlier in the year. They did not play the first neither are they playing the current one. I assure you it would have been a totally different scenerio if his singles were on at top 40 UK also does have an influence too, so hopefully if NCOE becomes a hit there some other countries would jump on board and there are loads of them too in Europe that follow the British trends. |
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Post by durberville on Jun 20, 2012 13:12:16 GMT -5
swarm.....you posted a lot on Adam Lambert Fans when it first opened, correct? I think I remember your name (it's distinctive) and enjoyed your writing.
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Post by lynne on Jun 20, 2012 13:26:35 GMT -5
I don't know how to embed this, but here is Adam talking about his sexuality and his music. Interesting to listen to it again with the discussion here in mind. t.co/IqjNdHoESpeaking about discussing and reflecting political issues in his music, Adam says, "There is a part of me that is happy to do it, but the hard part is that it can so easily overshadow the universality of the music."
Subtext: a part of me is happy to be a spokesperson for these issues, but another part is not happy to have to do this.
It is hard for Adam, underneath, to have something that should be insignificant overshadow his music, but in his experience, sometimes it does. He is comfortable with his identity, as are his family, friends and artistic community, and is willing to be a public face for that community, to help inform and educate others, but it is frustrating to him when that message gets in the way of the universality of his music.Adam explains the reasons that he didn't address gay issues in his first album as he addresses them now. "I didn't address it (being gay) head on in the first album because I thought, 'Everybody knows'... but I do want to address it head on in this one... it is something that I deal with, that I think about..." When Adam was in the process of making his first album, he wasn't dealing with the gay gay gay. Now? Different story. His reaction? Face it head on. Trespass right in there, openly proud, let them get a load of the talent he knows he has to offer, walk in there like he doesn't give a fuck, show them the fabulous side of being cuckoo, and then inform them and make them feel aware of the pain underneath in being branded an outlaw. Adam explains that he now feels "a certain responsibility to address it (sometimes being considered an outlaw.) "Why not, why not?" he questions, and then then, almost an afterthought, "at this point." At this point, he might as well put it right out there, since there seems to be no getting around it being a big deal.Sometimes Adam feels he just "can't win." Either he is "too gay or not gay enough. I think it is a product of where we're at socially right now. It's the timing of it. it's a very sensitive thing right now," he says. People with varying issues in a hot political climate continue to use him as a symbol of their differing agendas in a civil rights issue that is very politically tense right now. And Adam, who is a self admitted control freak, has very little control of how he is presented in this regard. "And it is not as under my control as people think it is... "
He has little control about the conversation media choose to build around him. He gives lengthy interviews to help people see who he is beyond the gay by answering long lists of
questions that are about more than his sexuality. But, "at the end of the day, too many people in the media reduce him to a headline in the news that is only "a corny joke about being gay." He becomes their "punchline."
That makes me want to punch out, that very dark side of his reality. But Adam is not going to cry and whine. Life is forward motion. "I'm just doing the best I can," he says. From a personal standpoint, his best is pretty darn good. I LOVE the album Trespassing, completely aside from any social issues. I don't have to tell any of you here how good it is. But I also LOVE its in your face message. To the people who will not see: F you; I'm coming in anyway, watch me dance and party and live my life... To the people who will see: welcome to my world of pain. I know it is a lot like yours. I hope hearing my music lets you know you are not alone. |
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Post by tigerlily on Jun 20, 2012 13:51:59 GMT -5
-He is doing the album promo in UK as well - not only Queen stuff. -He is having a time of his life! Unfortunately B &R are not getting younger - who knows how long they will be willing or able to perform - Adam has his chance at this epic singing NOW! -He is making money that might be able to help finance the tour -He is still doing radio concerts flying to SF in June and doing 3 concerts in LA right after EU -He is happy and exited about being in London and working with his idols -selfish me: I can't listen to NCOE any more (which I would be doing if he were visiting radio stations), so a couple of weeks of different music from Adam is a huge relief...-Adam will not be opening for anyone - not in his nature IMO Yes, I know all this! I'm thrilled that Adam is getting this opportunity, but I do wish this album era and the single situation were more stable back in the US. The timing isn't the best, but it is what it is. I'm not saying that Adam shouldn't be doing the Queen gigs, just answering your question about what he could be doing in the US at this time. The answer is- Plenty! Why would opening for another artist be a problem? On several occasions, Adam has answered questions in interviews about opening for others and he has been very positive about the possibility. Opening isn't beneath him. Every artist or group has had to do their share of opening for others at some point in their career. Opening is in "Adam's nature", but I don't see it being in most of the "fan's nature"! Adam wouldn't be the problem. j/s |
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Post by lynne on Jun 20, 2012 14:43:54 GMT -5
Adam also said Trespassing was a "make or break" album for him, so he must be a little concerned. Honestly, I hope things can turn around. And I hope the Queen concerts give him some much deserved respect and exposure in Europe. I just remember seeing his schedule back last Spring and wondering how he was going to fit everything in. I also worried that his own material might get lost in all of it. It just feels like Trespassing is slipping away; in the US, anyway. Hopefully, RCA was wise enough to have some kind of "Plan B" set for the fall. It really is difficult to predict what projects will be the ones that break and hit and bring an artist the kind of notice he hopes for. Adam could have denied Queen and stayed in the U.S and promoted and promoted his album and still not have had a radio hit. Adam has been around and he knows how you have to play this business. I don't know if RCA has plans if the two singles don't pan out, but I am sure Adam thinks about all aspects of his his career possibilities. As an entertainer, you never know who or what association will be the next one that opens the next door. I still have hope for Trespassing, but even at its worst, it has been a critical success, and that garners Adam a certain kind of industry respect. It had a #1 opening and made its place in U.S cultural History. The record is really good. He can be proud of it. It will always stand on its own artistically. That is on the make side of the make or break and is significant. |
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