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Post by rabbitrabbit on May 31, 2012 13:51:12 GMT -5
I think if less time was spent dissecting and more time spent on radio requests and doing surveys, voting in countdowns, Adam might be in better shape. I hate it all, but I do it religiously, and I find myself getting anxious because I wonder for all the hard work, how many are actually doing it, and will it eventually have an impact. How often can you request? I only request about once a week and only on my local station. I don't vote in polls that are meaningless. Stanning an artist shouldn't be hardwork. It should be fun. You can request every day if your station has started playing the song, whether they have added it or not. You can request 2-3x a week if they haven't (but that's using one method, for example if you want to tweet them, use mediabase, call them, etc. you can request more frequently as long as it isn't obvious that you are the same person). I request from my two local HAC stations and one local Top 40 station every day for two of them (which have started playing), and 3x a week for the third. I also request daily from Q102 because they welcome requests from everywhere, and often from Z100 and Sirius as well (same deal). I also vote on all the non-meaningless polls (if they list NCOE, rather than Adam the person, they usually are for spins/plays, therefore useful). It takes me a max of 5-7 minutes a day using mediabase and texting and it's easy to do when eating breakfast, so for me it's fun and simple, it's never felt like 'hard work'. |
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on May 31, 2012 14:03:43 GMT -5
[pokes head in wearily]
Guys - I've a lot of work to do today.
DO NOT SLAM EACH OTHER.
This thread is to talk about radio and stats and your personal interpretation thereof. Ideally with NUMBERS to back those assertions up.
Thank you.
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Post by stardust on May 31, 2012 14:04:36 GMT -5
Okay, guys!!! Enough discussion and speculation for now! Let's get back to the numbers please! It does not help to repeat the same arguments over and over again. I will be cleaning up this thread for a while. So let's all take a breather. (It's going to take me a long time to read all this stuff)
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Post by gbam on May 31, 2012 14:08:51 GMT -5
The bias lies in that I personally think they are not on the same level as Adam. I actually agree with your previous posts where you said you draw your conclusion from following the charts either here, mjs or pulse etc since I basically do the same. Aren't I therefore allowed to have my own thots or perception of things? I bring links here to justify my thots or make references fans are familiar with most of the time and do not just speak in vacuum. That's not a prove for me. As far as I know both needed so much time to get to that position and Adam is #38 in the week of his add date and has a better bullet. I don't see there any bias. It is enough prove to me since A is a bigger star than the two of them. I therefore do not expext radio to treat them the same since their is a difference of singles treatment released by a Rihanna to an Adam one for example. |
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Post by bullsfan on May 31, 2012 14:15:30 GMT -5
Oh my, lol! NCOE is a very good pop song. It is a very good radio song. It can work on both CHR and HAC, Bruno wrote it, radio prefered it, and Adam sings it. The song is fine  As far as requesting goes, I can't imagine that a fanbase that wins polls, routinely votes the song onto radio countdowns, and helped push an album to #1 doesn't have this covered. Fans are requesting. They are requesting a lot. Frecklesexual, the way you are doing things sounds perfect. Request locally and sensibly; vote when it means something. I agree, fandom isn't a job; Adam has a label and management. Keep requesting, but at some point things are going to have to pick up organically. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2012 14:26:28 GMT -5
you are projecting what YOU believe onto what Adam said. Adam said the industry is like High school and it is, all businesses are high school, regardless of whether it's the music business or something else. politics plays a role in every aspect of our existence. It's a game and Adam wants to play that game and he's doing it brilliantly. I've never once heard Adam say anything remotely close to FYE didn't have the impact he thought it would or that that was why he asked to executive produce this album. IMO you are putting words in Adam's mouth and you are convulting the discussion in an attempt to steer it in the direction you want it to go. Adam already isn't a one-hit wonder because WWFM and IIHY were both top 20 hits on CHR. Like I sAid I read all these in his Rolling stone and the Bilboard articles. Since they are interviews Adam gave himself, I do not think I am projecting anything. It is possible tho that your interpretation of those said articles might be different from mine which is fair enough. Unfortunately I don't have links to those articles right now. Maybe someone that does can help or you can google them? gbam: I'm afraid that you have misunderstood some of what Adam said. Adam never said in either the Rolling Stone or Billboard interview that he took the executive producer role for Trespassing because FYE did not meet expectations (see links below). However, Adam did say that he feels like an outsider in the Pop music world. Quote from Rolling Stone interview: "I still feel like I'm not welcome. I went to the Grammies and felt really weird, like an outsider. Pop music feels like high school again -- there's the really cool kids, and I'm not one of those." (I have the print issue, so this is a direct quote from the article.) Links: www.billboard.com/news/adam-lambert-snags-first-no-1-album-on-billboard-1007130952.story#/events/adam-lambert-live-q-a-may-14-at-3pm-et-1007006952.storyarchive.rollingstone.com/Desktop?s=2012052439#/20120524/28(I hope the RS link works -- it was in the Archive section, and I needed to log into my account to find it.) Hope this helps to clear up confusion. |
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Post by tigerlily on May 31, 2012 14:26:50 GMT -5
That's not a prove for me. As far as I know both needed so much time to get to that position and Adam is #38 in the week of his add date and has a better bullet. I don't see there any bias. It is enough prove to me since A is a bigger star than the two of them. I therefore do not expext radio to treat them the same since their is a difference of singles treatment released by a Rihanna to an Adam one for example. Please post the proof that radio is treating them the same way, because facts have been posted by several posters in the last two pages that point to this not being the case. Radio is treating Adam BETTER, therefore there is no proof of a gay bias when comparing these three situations. The facts say the opposite of what you are trying to imply. |
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Post by rabbitrabbit on May 31, 2012 14:27:43 GMT -5
Oh my, lol! NCOE is a very good pop song. It is a very good radio song. It can work on both CHR and HAC, Bruno wrote it, radio prefered it, and Adam sings it. The song is fine As far as requesting goes, I can't imagine that a fanbase that wins polls, routinely votes the song onto radio countdowns, and helped push an album to #1 doesn't have this covered. Fans are requesting. They are requesting a lot. Frecklesexual, the way you are doing things sounds perfect. Request locally and sensibly; vote when it means something. I agree, fandom isn't a job; Adam has a label and management. Keep requesting, but at some point things are going to have to pick up organically. The one caveat I'd add to this is that local requesting requires a lot of dispersed participants, unlike radio countdowns and polls and even charity drives where a smaller group of fans voting or donating a lot can make a big difference. That's why in my mind regular local requesting, especially focused around radio pushes could kind of be significant even if only in a small way in some markets. That's why I'd personally do more than 1x a week especially right now, all these stations that have recently added or started test spinning NCOE in the last week and half need to hear from listeners that they like the song! ;D and for all the stations watching the HAC list to see what happens before jumping in it's helpful to know that they have interested listeners too. JMO of course. |
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Post by theosgma on May 31, 2012 14:42:23 GMT -5
Poked in to try to get some update on numbers and got an eyeful of arguing. Anybody got some numbers?
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Post by tigerlily on May 31, 2012 15:02:18 GMT -5
Poked in to try to get some update on numbers and got an eyeful of arguing. Anybody got some numbers? They are posted every day as new ones come in. Which numbers are you looking for? CHR? HAC? C- CHR or HAC? Itunes positions? Adds this week? Total adds from radio stations?Album sales numbers from the second week? Twitter followers? For a more detailed overview of radio spins, this site is a great resource of information: adaminradioland.wordpress.com/ |
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