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Post by lambo on Jun 3, 2012 12:49:00 GMT -5
Working on By The Rules chords. Did this demonstration of those chord boxes I put up for Shady too. I am no Nile Rodgers though [soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/nationalglampoon/i-throw-more-shade[/soundcloud] Edit: Done with By The Rules! i.imgur.com/XuYLR.png
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Post by lambo on Jun 5, 2012 10:01:19 GMT -5
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Post by cassie on Jun 5, 2012 18:20:22 GMT -5
Working on By The Rules chords. Did this demonstration of those chord boxes I put up for Shady too. I am no Nile Rodgers though [soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/nationalglampoon/i-throw-more-shade[/soundcloud] Edit: Done with By The Rules! i.imgur.com/XuYLR.pngThat was fun to listen to. Nile's guitar adds so much to the overall funk of the track, but it is very subtle in the background. On this audio, I can hear the chords and style upfront, then go back and pick it out more easily on the recording. Thanks.
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Post by cassie on Jun 5, 2012 18:39:56 GMT -5
Another impressive example of vocals. Cool. I was chatting with Angelina recently (who saw your notation of the riff in Broken English BTW and enjoyed reading it). She was puzzled, tho, about people going on and on about him singing the entire phrase in one breath. Said she, and any number of singers she knew could do the same. That it was not extraordinary for Adam either. Sort of like, "What's the big deal?" Me: "But, Angelina, don't you know that people haven't heard something like that before? No other pop singer can do that!" A: "But, Adam is NOT a pop singer. He's a classical singer. Classical singers can do that." She had me laughing at our lack of communication or common reference. In her world, Adam is just singing. Like he should be singing. Like she would expect him to sing, given his background. She recognized, from the first time she saw/heard him on Idol, that he was a classical singer. She hears multiple examples of that classical training all over Trespassing. I, on the other hand, was coming from the pop/rock genre perspective, where the things Adam does are shockingly unusual. Noteworthy. Awesome. Alien. Angelina "gets" Adam. She just "gets" him from a different perspective than most of us. She DOES think he is the best singer she has ever heard, and she has heard the best of the best. But, because of his extensive training and experience in the arts, and because of what she has seen him do, she just expects him to be extraordinary. If that makes any sense. Of course he does that riff in one breath. She wouldn't expect anything different. hahaha
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Post by lambo on Jun 5, 2012 20:06:40 GMT -5
That was interesting cassie! Personally I would say Adam is a rock singer that combines a good solid foundation of classical techniques with some modern techniques. Obviously I can't compete with Angelina's expertise but I come from more of a rocker background and that's how his voice sounds to me. There are other singers in popular music who use the classical technique, but Adam isn't one to limit himself, branching out to the grit techniques, the "banshee" wails, etc. Edit: That was probably one for Vocal Masterclass in retrospect!
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Post by lambo on Jun 16, 2012 19:04:15 GMT -5
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Post by cassie on Jun 16, 2012 23:31:27 GMT -5
Thanks for this. Funny that in print, at first look it doesn't look that amazing. But, that is because the first lines are in the bass clef, and he last one is in the treble clef. When you notice that, and think of the breadth of the range across both clefs, it is most impressive. Just two tones short of three octaves. And it all sounds great.
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Post by lambo on Jun 17, 2012 6:38:49 GMT -5
I've noticed he actually covers more in Sure Fire Winners, but it's not as obvious cause the B2's are deeper in the mix
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Post by eri9 on Jun 22, 2012 5:10:51 GMT -5
Just reiterating how much I am LOVING this thread!! @nationalglampoon you are incredibly talented yourself to do all this! I love the challenge of working out chords and harmonies etc. but it takes me forever! It can be frustrating at times, but also rewarding! I am missing my piano terribly (long story...it is currently in storage - will be able to have it back in a couple of months - can't wait!) cassie You hit the nail on the head re your comments about Angelina not being amazed at Adam's vocal ability because of his classical training / her expectations etc... compared to the vast majority of us who are coming from a pop/rock background.... His voice still astounds me, and even my opera singer father and other classically-trained singer friends acknowledge his vocal talent. Even tho I was raised with an opera-singer father, and have some classical singing training myself, opera is not my first love - musical theatre is.... along with pop music (was a teenager in the 80's when divas and power ballads were the norm!) When Adam came along for the first time ever, I heard a musical theatre voice singing pop music.... no wonder I was in love!!! It actually took me over a year to make this connection.... Anyway probably waaay off track for this thread.... but thanks again for the hard work and insights here.... may not post that often, but I am a regular lurker! :D
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Post by lambo on Jun 22, 2012 11:10:57 GMT -5
@nationalglampoon you are incredibly talented yourself to do all this! I love the challenge of working out chords and harmonies etc. but it takes me forever! It can be frustrating at times, but also rewarding! I am missing my piano terribly (long story...it is currently in storage - will be able to have it back in a couple of months - can't wait!) Thanks for the nice words :D It didn't come naturally to me, I just practiced and practiced and practiced. Still not perfect but I'm pretty happy with where I'm at it with it I'll do some more stuff very soon. Not sure what though, any ideas? ???
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