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Post by seoulmate on Jun 9, 2012 4:31:12 GMT -5
Talk about what is the single, and what and why it is played on the radio, has been very interesting. And I am very pleased that some of you manage to patiently explain what all about  . Maybe now I understand a little more disk / radio business. I would like to know how to "We Are the Champions" became so popular, even though it was a B-side album? So we have an example that "not single / b-side's disc" can be successful worldwide. (Hopefully no one will be angry about this issue! I still remember the conversation that took place a few weeks ago about "runnin '. Some of us suggested it as a new single, but some Atopians became very angry about this wish, to explain the matter in any way. Although I nicely asked for an explanation (I need very clear answers, because of my damn bad language), no one answered. So that I too was afraid of this hostility and I withdrew from the discussion entirely. :-/) awwww... bb... I don't remember people becoming angry. :-/  I think a lot of people (including me) would love to have Runnin on the radio, but apparently it can never happen because 1) it's the type of song that doesn't really fit in the Top 40... like it's got too much of a rock edge to it, and rock isn't really popular anymore.  And 2) it's Adam's label that chooses the singles, so whatever song they choose, we have to support it anyway we can. But I honestly don't know about other countries, especially in Europe. I don't really have much information about Queen's son We are the Champions except I think it's always been REALLY POPULAR ever since the late 1970s when it first came out. It's probably the most recognizable song that Queen ever did.... well, and also We will Rock You. Those two songs became so popular I think because they were always played at sporting events! |
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Post by Q3 on Jun 9, 2012 4:31:31 GMT -5
I am feeling old right now. Does any one else remember the days when radio stations would play a song off a record that was requested? Course those were the days when they had vinyl and did actually spin a disc. And I don't think they were the "pop" stations. Gah i miss those times. Maybe some of these "less than intelligent" folks are just stuck in a time warp. I remember and I am not that old! Difference is that now radio programming is based on a lot more information than Program Directors had even 5 years ago. In most of the US Top 40/CHR and HAC stations use data from People Meters -- real time measurement of the audience, who is listening, when they switch on and off. That data enables the use of complex systems for optimizing the size of the desired target audience. Do Top 40/CHR radio station program based on requests? Most have at least one program that is programmed based on requests -- usually in the evenings and weekends. And usually it is online voting. More importantly -- requests play a critical role in getting stations to add a single to their playlist and in getting stations to give a song a change. --- Regarding the fan email to the Atlanta station requesting Shady. I think it probably helped Adam -- and can't see any way it could have harmed NCOE's prospects of getting airplay. It demonstrated interest in Adam's music and it was from someone who listened to the station on a regular basis. The radio station employee's response indicated that they were in the process of considering if they should add NCOE to their playlist, so the timing was great. Finally, occasionally fan requests for an album track result in airplay and a subsequent single release. That is what happened with Lady Gaga's "Alejandro". |
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Post by psychedelic on Jun 9, 2012 4:31:45 GMT -5
Everything aside,
I think we can all agree that the most effective way to help Adam is for fans to request NCOE and not the other singles from the album, yes?
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Post by fightthesleep on Jun 9, 2012 4:33:30 GMT -5
Q3 you know full well what a "single" is in regards to US radio. While theoretically what you are saying is correct, in practice radio will play the song that the record company is currently working with them and only that and past official singles will be added to their playlists. Of course they are able to play a nother track if the mood takes them but very few do, not least because their hands are tied by the corporate powers that be. While I do understand what you are saying, in truth I think your post is unhelpful and muddies the waters for those who are still trying to understand how US radio works. I was not trying to explain how US radio works -- I was trying to explain why I believed it was perfectly reasonable for a radio listener to request an album track be played by their local radio station. Radio listeners should not be expected to 1. know what the official single is, and 2. play by some unwritten rulebook. Overall, I think you missed my point..... And that is probably because it is late and I was not being very clear. I will try again: 1. The question was raised, why would anyone email a Top 40 radio station requesting "Shady" rather than NCOE which is the current single. 2. There were several responses that many people are not aware of what the current single is. 3. My point was merely that the term single is not a clear term anymore and so it is understandable how a music buyer and fan would not know what the current single is. A single is still a single though. It is just most commonly sold digitally these days as technology has moved on and most people use mp3 players rather than being a physical cd. The concept of what a single is has not changed at all. |
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Post by Q3 on Jun 9, 2012 4:35:38 GMT -5
shoshanna stone @shoshannastone Another tv booked for Adam last night everyone want a piece! shoshanna stone @shoshannastone lidbud Friday download satanic thong @satanicthong @shoshannastone Performing with his band or those random musicians? shoshanna stone @shoshannastone @satanicthong performing jo @jok1213 @scotchglambert Friday Download is on BBC2 on Sunday at 9am :-) |
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Post by fightthesleep on Jun 9, 2012 4:36:27 GMT -5
Talk about what is the single, and what and why it is played on the radio, has been very interesting. And I am very pleased that some of you manage to patiently explain what all about . Maybe now I understand a little more disk / radio business. I would like to know how to "We Are the Champions" became so popular, even though it was a B-side album? So we have an example that "not single / b-side's disc" can be successful worldwide. (Hopefully no one will be angry about this issue! I still remember the conversation that took place a few weeks ago about "runnin '. Some of us suggested it as a new single, but some Atopians became very angry about this wish, to explain the matter in any way. Although I nicely asked for an explanation (I need very clear answers, because of my damn bad language), no one answered. So that I too was afraid of this hostility and I withdrew from the discussion entirely. :-/) I think partly because bcak then all singles were released with an A & a B side giving radio stations the option to play either. Nowadays with singles being mostly digital, only one track is released officially to radio. Even when singles are physically produced as CD's they usually contain remixes (at least in the world of pop) rather then other tracks. Also radio is much more of a corporate entity now than it used to be. Playlists are decided at a higher level and DJ's have very little say if any in what they play. Back then, if a DJ liked a song, they could run with it, official single or not. Regarding Runnin', while it is a great song and Adam sounds amazing on it, it doesn't fit the current feel of Top 40 radio, the format that Adam is mostly aiming at. Therefore it is very unlikely to be a single as they are extremely unlikely to ever play it. I hope that makes sense. |
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Post by seoulmate on Jun 9, 2012 4:40:54 GMT -5
butterfly.... just curious, are there popular rock stations in Finland that a lot of people listen to? Or is the most popular music pop/electronic stuff?
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Post by pi on Jun 9, 2012 4:47:26 GMT -5
shoshanna stone @shoshannastone Another tv booked for Adam last night everyone want a piece! From Shoshanna's tweet, it sounds like the tv program came to them with the request for Adam's appearance. ;D I've been watching the performances from RAH, especially NCOE, and marvel at how he gives his all to the performance, and yet manages to direct the band and sound issues in the midst of it all, not missing a beat.. there's so much energy in that performance. Love the vibrant cobalt blue jacket and tie! |
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Post by seoulmate on Jun 9, 2012 4:47:40 GMT -5
Kind of interesting: I was curious so I googled We are the Champions. Apparently it was released as an A-side with We Will Rock You as the B-side. " In 2009, "We Are the Champions" was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame,[5] and was voted the world's favourite song in a 2005 Sony Ericsson world music poll.[6] In 2011, a team of scientific researchers concluded that the song was the catchiest in the history of popular music.[7]  |
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Post by leenaseyez on Jun 9, 2012 4:53:57 GMT -5
butterfly.... just curious, are there popular rock stations in Finland that a lot of people listen to? Or is the most popular music pop/electronic stuff? Finland is definitely a rock and even have metal rock country. Thus we have radios playing only rock, but almost all channels are playing also rock. National channel is Radio Rock. Also many grandmoters are listening rock and heavy metal. Biggest international names from Finland a more a less rock bands, like Nightwish. Even the only success for Finland in Europen song contest was a hevy metal song (Lordi). And as I recall only rock song that have had success there . |
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. Maybe now I understand a little more disk / radio business.
