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Post by mika on Jun 19, 2012 5:21:36 GMT -5
Jamie made a whole universe?!?! And brought all of our landscaping. She's a wonder that one. Junie - Dark Adam and Light Adam would run the coffee/teahouse together - it would be verry popular. (sniffs w/you but pretends it's a sinus condition) Alison - Thank you and I agree so much - but i'm a little verklempt to get my words out. oh, oh!! I'm running around looking at eveything! It's a total Mika trap! Ewan McGregor over there! (hai, Ewan! Can you pleaase meet Adam and get a hugging pic out to me asap? thnx!) And Mirages! You have my number, wicked one. I love Arcadia but truth be told R&G is my favorite ever AND that clip has many of my favorite lines - esp after 07:00 and G's whole summation of their exchange w/Hamlet. I have a friend and coworker who shares my love - and at difficult moments when he's being irritatingly reasonable, I glare at him and say " Pragmatism!? Is that all you have to offer?" I have imagined a production with a slightly different vibe and Adam as The Player. (he'd be awesome) And, Glittergma, Mellie, and Mszue! Yay! It will be so nice to have a place to take refuge with such good friends-may weird kids everywhere be so fortunate. Thank you Jamie, quiet benefactress
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Post by melliemom on Jun 19, 2012 5:33:10 GMT -5
Jamie made a whole universe?!?! And brought all of our landscaping. She's a wonder that one. Junie - Dark Adam and Light Adam would run the coffee/teahouse together - it would be verry popular. (sniffs w/you but pretends it's a sinus condition) Alison - Thank you and I agree so much - but i'm a little verklempt to get my words out. oh, oh!! I'm running around looking at eveything! It's a total Mika trap! Ewan McGregor over there! (hai, Ewan! Can you pleaase meet Adam and get a hugging pic out to me asap? thnx!) And Mirages! You have my number, wicked one. I love Arcadia but truth be told R&G is my favorite ever AND that clip has many of my favorite lines - esp after 07:00 and G's whole summation of their exchange w/Hamlet. I have a friend and coworker who shares my love - and at difficult moments when he's being irritatingly reasonable, I glare at him and say " Pragmatism!? Is that all you have to offer?" I have imagined a production with a slightly different vibe and Adam as The Player. (he'd be awesome) And, Glittergma, Mellie, and Mszue! Yay! It will be so nice to have a place to take refuge with such good friends-may weird kids everywhere be so fortunate. Thank you Jamie, quiet benefactress Mika I so love you and your spirit.. Long may the moon children live with freedom of expression, and acceptance of all who enter. Thank you one and all fellow wanderers...Finally I'm Home.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2012 5:47:11 GMT -5
~FOR MY MOONSISTERS AND BROTHERS~WE'LL GO NO MORE A-ROVINGby: George Gordon (Lord) Byron (1788-1824) O, we'll go no more a-roving So late into the night, Though the heart be still as loving, And the moon be still as bright. For the sword outwears its sheath, And the soul wears out the breast, And the heart must pause to breathe, And love itself have a rest. Though the night was made for loving, And the day returns too soon, Yet we'll go no more a-roving By the light of the moon. But we will, Mr Byron, we will... Nick Laroche skates to Adam Lambert's I Just Love YouAdam Lambert Can't Fight the Moonlight
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2012 9:04:22 GMT -5
This place looks pretty damn good in the daylight too. Light Adam, I like what you've done with the bookshelf. Keep up the good work. Wow, breakfast tacos? Yay! [takes one] I can't help laughing at the disparate array of pillows peppering the place. And someone has a penchant for odd '50s chairs. Gratitude: is what I feel for the ever-generous and astonishing people here. Your posts about the moon and your dads and your thoughts and Byron make me cry. In a good way. Remember when Adam danced and cried at the same time? Like that. Alison, I loved what you said about being drawn to this community and the opportunity to feel respected, welcomed, and appreciated. mszue, it would be cool to meet in the chat room. I haven't even looked to see how it works on my computer. Where is everyone, physically, anyway? I am in Texas. mellie, going to read your essay now. You guys, I will try to write something later today or tomorrow to describe the "vibe" and what this thread is for ... a welcome mat so to speak ...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2012 10:26:37 GMT -5
Back from reading mellie's essay.
mellie, I believe that RCA has made mistakes every step of the way in marketing Adam. That is what I meant a few days when I said they wanted a widget salesman. They look for interchangeable units of music. They sell it as a product, not as art or balm to the soul. If that happens, it's just an accident, not anything the record company does.
I almost cried the other day when Adam himself was talking about some song on Trespassing, "It's your treadmill music!" he said brightly.
I felt that a little piece of Adam's soul died at that moment. Thanks RCA.
You and I have talked about Adam in terms of the civil rights movement. I knew Nat King Cole was the pioneer artist for pop music for blacks, so I went and Googled around to see what I could learn about him and how he and his contemporaries were treated by radio.
Well, a quote from a radio executive said it all: "No n------loving shit goes out over this network." Most were not so blatant, just cowardly. When blacks appeared on integrated radio programs, some stations refused to carry those shows. When networks did try to introduce black shows starring artists like Cole and Mahailia Jackson, resistance from advertisers and some stations created so much controversy that the shows were cancelled.
Interestingly, this was in spite of the fact that the artists were popular with whites and blacks alike. Most people were not racist jerks and just wanted to hear good music. There was a huge audience, a huge appetite for the music. But that didn't matter. This was deja vu for me reading about this.
Entertainers who protested their poor treatment and called for courage and defiance were punished, and their careers suffered. Blacks were excluded from management positions in the radio industry as well, though they did work as DJs.
Interestingly, in the meantime, comic portrayals of blacks thrived -- Amos and Andy being the most famous example.
I think this is part of Adam's problem -- not just that he is gay, but that he is defiant. He is not a clownish and non-sexual gay. He is a funny, witty, intelligent, and sexy gay who has their number. And boy do people hate it when you have their number.
I also think gay men need to step up. If they are in the industry, they need to come out, and make a stand, even though they will be called whiners and worse. If they are aspiring in the industry, they need to get behind great, real music, not just be tools for The Man.
I was interested to read that the black artists had to overcome their lack of acceptance with live shows. They basically put together revues with lots of artists on the same bill, and traveled the country. This is how artists like Sam Cooke, Smokey Robinson, Stevie Wonder and others became known.
I would love to see Adam put together a traveling musical revue with himself as the headliner. A "Zodiac" type show with great, creative musical and dance artists. Fans of one artist would come to the show and get to see them all. They could all sell records and merch and help each other.
Also, TV seems more accepting than radio. I am resistant to the idea of Adam judging a reality TV because I find them so degrading, so I am not sure about that. I would rather see him hosting his "Zodiac" type show over cable and performing his heart out and showcasing other alternative and creative artists, and maybe talking with visual artists, fashion designers, authors, other creative people. Wouldn't that be amazing?
That and building up an international audience seem like the best bets for Adam right now ... my 2 cents. Loved your essay and thank you for making me think and learn something! We Shall Overcome.
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Post by mszue on Jun 19, 2012 12:03:03 GMT -5
That 'Zodiac" show suggestion is a great fantasy that would make a killer show....Can you not imagine a show with Adam....and Sam Sparrow and Jake and the Sissor Sisters....then throw in the Zodia bunch we all know and that love Adam...Alan, Carmit, Scarlet, Alisan....they know how to put a hell of a show on. Then put an extravaganza fit for the largest stadiums and have short series of 'special guests' that are draws for the area they are playing are currently available...Kylie Minogue, Goldfrapp, kd lang, Rufus Wainwright, Nelly Furtado, Nile Rogers, Slash....the list goes on....each guest would bring in new fans but at the same time, with that strong a core there is never a need for anyone else.
eta...while I am having my way with this scenario....Adam loves to collaborate. He is a social, 'group' animal yet he seems bound and determined to attack fame and fortune as a single...that has always surprised me just a little bit. I was never invested in the whole Monte thing one way or another but I suspect Monte saw he and Adam in the tradition of many of the rock groups in which the lead[usually] guitarist is almost as celebrated as the singer and that are spoken of in the same breath. It must have come as a bitter, bitter disappointment to see the partnership dissolve...and add to that the fact that Tommy seemed more popular with the fans than he....If anyone in the band had the same sort of charisma that Adam has perhaps that could have happened but it did not.
dreamin....and thinkin....and dreamin...
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Post by mszue on Jun 19, 2012 12:11:41 GMT -5
hahaha...I knew it....while I was typing and fantasizing away...y'all were doing the same thing....
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Post by sugaree on Jun 19, 2012 12:16:04 GMT -5
Hi moonies! Alison just invited me here. I guess I need to read the dark side thread to get an idea of some of the things you guys are talking about. So glad this is here! I'll be back!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2012 12:29:31 GMT -5
Yay!!!! sugaree!!!!
Several people have asked that I try to write something describing what the Moon Garden Lounge is and what is is for. The "vibe" ... let me know what you guys think. If it sounds OK, or with any modifications needed, maybe Jamie could then add it to the original post as a "welcome mat."
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The Moon Garden Lounge is dedicated to the discussion of ALL things Adam, broadly defined, from the serious to the fun-loving. Nothing is sacred, including the idea that nothing is sacred. There are no limits on the ideas that can be expressed or the questions that can be asked here. Here is the place for talking about the whole tapestry of Adam, his journey, and your own.
All the normal Adamtopia rules apply here. Please respect the fact that freedom of thought and development of ideas require peace, tolerance, space, equality, and compassion. You are in the same room here with your fellow human beings. This is a place for respect, for wit, for intelligence, for having a good time. Talk to each other like we're all having a drink at the same table.
Everyone is welcome and you don't have to be an egghead -- just order your adult beverage of choice -- coffee, tea, or something stronger -- and join right in.
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What do you guys think?
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Post by sugaree on Jun 19, 2012 12:38:16 GMT -5
So do I post a "lack of radio play" comment here or in the dark side? juniomoon, I love your description. I would bold the ALL in "all things Adam".
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