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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 12:46:05 GMT -5
Oh, I think I see a diff now. In FYE the singer is saying "you may have made an assumption about ME- that I am an angel, an innocent. You are wrong, let me show you iIF you can handle it." In "Blurred Lines" the assumption is made by the singer ABOUT the "good girl."
(I now feel better about liking one, not other.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 12:56:57 GMT -5
I have an unpopular opinion about FYE in that it is not a favorite of mine, because of the same reasons a lot of folks don't like Blurred Lines. Hopefully some others will weigh in because I refuse to elaborate further on the grounds that I do not want to have my Glambert card revoked!!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 13:01:02 GMT -5
Oh, no - I would not want that to happen!
Thanks for answering me. I certainly respect that one not being a fave of yours.
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Post by Alison on Jun 19, 2013 19:06:45 GMT -5
I have an unpopular opinion about FYE in that it is not a favorite of mine, because of the same reasons a lot of folks don't like Blurred Lines. Hopefully some others will weigh in because I refuse to elaborate further on the grounds that I do not want to have my Glambert card revoked!!! I need to have my Glambert card revoked. What is Blurred Lines? I clearly haven't been keeping up! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 22:19:46 GMT -5
Oh, I think I see a diff now. In FYE the singer is saying "you may have made an assumption about ME- that I am an angel, an innocent. You are wrong, let me show you iIF you can handle it." In "Blurred Lines" the assumption is made by the singer ABOUT the "good girl." (I now feel better about liking one, not other.) Bridget - Out of lurking because I agree with you so much about Blurred Lines. I probably feel more strongly about it than you do - in fact I snap off the radio when it comes on and then fume. Above all, it uses a lot of language and themes linked to rape culture. The woman who is the object of the song is presented in demeaning language - she's an animal who doesn't know she likes it nasty and that's why he's going to 'take a good girl'; she's called a bitch a few times. Well, and the title - 'i hate these blurred lines; i know you want it' Again the language is ugly and loaded with negative connotations. And you can't just drop the TI verse and pretend it's not there - it just follows the theme of the entire song. Yeah, had a bitch, but she ain't bad as you
So hit me up when you passing through
I'll give you something big enough to tear your ass in two...
Nothing like your last guy, he too square for you
He don't smack that ass and pull your hair like that
So I just watch and wait for you to salute
I hate this fucking song. I love FYE - did from the first and I don't think there's any comparison. Consensual power play and pain/pleasure issues are pretty common and vanilla as far as I'm concerned. And most important the singer's partner is not demeaned, reduced to an animal, objectified. Blurred Lines (again starting with the title) presumes some woman or girl he sees and wants and is going to 'take' because she 'wants it'. I think FYE is pretty clearly about an in progress consensual sexual encounter that's about to heat up 'so hot out of the box; can we pick up the pace?; heat it up, turn it up'. And most of all the question is asked more than once 'push the limit - are you with it?' 'can you handle what I'm about to do?' 'there's no way you'll ring the alarm, so hold on until it's over - I'm here for your entertainment' (so the partner could ring the alarm - say no - if desired). there are no blurred lines - just a change in tenor/roles/expectations - 'you thought that i was all soft and sweet, but i'm about to go dominant for our mutual pleasure - can you handle that?' I can't really use the new format but will try to insert a parody Grease video that I saw recently. (Apologize if this is all messed up given my lack of ability with new Pro Boards) ETA: Thanks for introducing an interesting, relevant topic!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2013 6:34:00 GMT -5
THANK you for that response; I really see more clearly now that FYEs lyrics show consent and partnership (respect) taking place, which the other song does not. And, of course, how did I not realize the significnace of there being no demeaning language at all in FYE. (No "bitch" or even implied dehumanization - perhaps because the implied subject in the song is male, not female - I heard the song was written for Britney Spears? Or maybe just because the song-writer isn't a jerk?)
Well, lots of food for thought there for me and I LOVED that Grease parody! so smart and well-done!
(Alison, "Blurred Lines" is a new BIG hit for Robin Thicke that he produced with Pharrell - it is being talked about too though as being "rape-y" by some critics - yep, that's the word used - and for its very topless mv.)
Thank you For coming out of lurkdom to share that analysis, Ysabelle! So interesting, to me, to read about how others thought about that.
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Post by midwifespal on Nov 17, 2013 15:28:27 GMT -5
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Post by sherriellen on Jun 14, 2014 10:37:24 GMT -5
Hello Moon Garden folks. I just had to log on today for so many reasons. I guess mainly because of the QAL excitement. But Mood Garden called to me to check out first. Going to the last page available today, page 92....First I notice how long it's been since anyone has posted here. Hmmmm. So I read backwards. And what do I find?....Juniemoon's very interesting essay about Rudolf Valentino, Elvis & of course Adam. Loved loved loved Elvis & I had never heard that beautiful song Juniemoon posted. It gave me chills. Loved the entire essay. Thank you. Learning all the time here at Atop. (I lurk almost every day but mostly on the news & info main page.
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