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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2012 18:13:45 GMT -5
I was just thinking about the whole radio resistance to Adam and it really does not make sense...and there has to be a reason that goes beyond simple prejudice whether against the gay thing or the AI thing. Is it even possible that in fact, this is a test of the power of radio...that radio is seeing its power and influence wane and this is the push back to show that you cannot 'succeed' in pop without them and the labels are using adam to try and show radio that indeed, that is not the case. If anyone can make it without radio, it is Adam....between his strong fan base, his international presence, the queen connection, and his endorsement by so many big name entertainers, it would seem if he can't make it...RADIO will have won. I am just trying to make sense of a nonsense situation....maybe it really is all politics and adam is the football.... Radio is a business. And businesses are about making money. The music that gets played on radio isn't chosen based on quality, the personal prejudices of station personnel or anything else like that -- it's all about attracting a large audience of the desired demographic. This is how it works: Like the traditional TV networks (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, etc.), radio makes money by selling advertising. So ratings are extremely important. The higher the ratings, the more radio stations can charge their advertisers. And advertisers want to have their ads run on stations that have a lot of listeners in their target audience. So, if I were working for a company that sold products designed for young women 18-29, I would want to advertise on a station that had a large audience of women in that age range. I would look at ratings and look for a station that could "deliver" that audience. So, radio stations select music that they think will keep their intended audience loyal to their station and keep their ratings high to keep advertisers happy and the ad dollars rolling in. If radio isn't playing Adam's music, it's probably largely because they believe he isn't going to help them grow or maintain their ratings among their target audience. Why would radio PDs think Adam isn't going to grow their audience? Could be several factors,including: - they could be doing research which indicates that Katy Perry, Gaga, or other performers will be more effective in attracting their target audience than Adam - the American economy is still weak, and businesses are risk-adverse. Radio is more likely to go with a "sure thing" (KP, etc.) than take a chance on a newer artist or someone like Adam who had been out of sight for over a year. That said, I realize that some other factors may also be at play. It's possible that some form of legal payola may also play a part -- maybe Interscope is willing to fork over more money than RCA in terms of "promotional support". But it really is all about the money. (I've worked in marketing/marketing research for 20 years, so I do have a sense of how this works.)
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Post by lifetraveler on Jul 9, 2012 18:13:55 GMT -5
My 2c regarding the whole "success" criterion:
If Adam could be as successful without radio as he is with it, I'd say screw American radio!
Unfortunately, it's clear that his lack of radio presence is having a real impact on his sales and concert attendance numbers. As someone posted earlier, his concerts that have been announced in the US, while still selling remarkably well, are not nearly the numbers of his GNT or even pre-GNT. And we all know his single/album sales, etc. (of course, accounting for the fact that sales are lower in general, but single sales should not be lower).
So because of all these, it's clear to me he needs either radio or some sort of other type of visibility to continue selling.
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Post by 4Ms on Jul 9, 2012 18:21:51 GMT -5
Can I just say that if American radio is such a cluster fuck of assholes who can't hear good music when it jumps up and bites them in the ass then - as noted by several people here, well the most polite thing I can think of is screw them. Adam should move to London, take over Europe where they seem to have an appreciation for him and then return triumphantly to US when he is so popular in the rest of the world they look like idiots for not playing his music. And if they still don't well I can name more than a few artists who do pretty well for not having had US radio success. As a reminder even Gaga had to make it in EU clubs before she crossed over and was played by mainstream radio. There is a while big wide (open minded) world out there where Adam is being embraced and which his little side gig with a band called Queen isn't hurting one bit. Carry on. You are sneaky, just trying to wrestle Adam away from the US. You're thinking, if you get just him to London, you've got a better chance to grab him for AU. I'm not letting him go! ;D
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Post by pemd on Jul 9, 2012 18:22:34 GMT -5
And Adam is so rightfully proud of Trespassing; it need to be heard globally!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2012 18:26:02 GMT -5
My 2c regarding the whole "success" criterion: If Adam could be as successful without radio as he is with it, I'd say screw American radio! Unfortunately, it's clear that his lack of radio presence is having a real impact on his sales and concert attendance numbers. As someone posted earlier, his concerts that have been announced in the US, while still selling remarkably well, are not nearly the numbers of his GNT or even pre-GNT. And we all know his single/album sales, etc. (of course, accounting for the fact that sales are lower in general, but not single sales they are not). So because of all these, it's clear to me he needs either radio or some sort of other type of visibility to continue selling. I agree. There are only a few reasons why his music isn't selling: - Listeners don't like it. - People aren't aware of it. Although I realize that Adam isn't going to appeal to everyone, I prefer to think that the problem isn't that people who hear Trespassing don't like it, or like it less than FYE. So, I think it is mainly an awareness problem. That's why radio is so important. Like it or not, it is still the most effective way to build awareness for new music. Next best might be a regular TV slot (not one-off guest appearances). So, from a business standpoint, I think the AI gig might make sense. I'm just not sure whether the producers would consider Adam to be a big enough star who could in turn help attract a large enough audience for the show. And I think if J Lopez leaves, they will want to get another woman to replace her. But Adam replacing Randy sounds good to me. I'm hoping that all of this internet buzz and Adam's positive response means something good is on the horizon.
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Post by teddybear on Jul 9, 2012 18:27:11 GMT -5
Sooo, no one is gifting right now?
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Post by 4Ms on Jul 9, 2012 18:27:18 GMT -5
Do we know those are actually legit Queen fans posting the nasty comments? Adam just enrages a whole lot of butt-hurt Idol fans (and including fans of nearly every winner/runner-up who isn't named AL). Many of these people are seemingly on-line all day with apparently nothing to do. I am convinced a whole bunch of people live on line to post crappy comments about Adam and work to vote him down wherever possible. The Queenbert stuff has just provided them with a new cover. I don't think the talk about Queen fans is in relation to the idol judgeship news, it's about an article write up specifically on Brian May. (I'VE LOST THE LINK.) Yes, it was an article about Brian May wanting to be remembered as an animal lover. That's why I was so surprised about the ugly, disgusting comments.
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Post by wal on Jul 9, 2012 18:29:46 GMT -5
Published on Jul 9, 2012 by GlamFan2012
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Post by wal on Jul 9, 2012 18:34:51 GMT -5
www.accesshollywood.com/adam-lambert-rumored-to-be-next-idol-judge_article_66968Adam Lambert Rumored To Be Next Idol JudgeFirst Published: July 9, 2012 6:56 PM EDT LOS ANGELES, CALIF. -- For those who are wondering whether “American Idol” can renew its vigor as the show enters its 12th season, a new judge might come along to spice up the panel. According to E! News, a familiar face and former competitor is in negotiations to come back on the show as a possible new judge –Adam Lambert. “They have been talking about Adam for over a month,” a source told E! News. “He personifies the show, and will be a popular choice right from the start. He knows what it’s like to be on the receiving end of the judges’ comments, he has a human touch, and they know they can’t go wrong if they bring him on. He would be able to bring a unique perspective to the show. People love him.” more..
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Post by rabbitrabbit on Jul 9, 2012 18:36:10 GMT -5
Sooo, no one is gifting right now? sagajo needs some people who havent' been gifted by flavilla to accept multiple gifts right now on twitter.
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