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Post by talon on Sept 30, 2014 8:16:11 GMT -5
If you are going because you like Queen and you have no idea who Adam is then it's a good description of the Queen vibe. On the article they just meant to type phenomenal and they it autocorrected wrong. If you read the first two Gigwise reasons to see this concert -- they are parallel. I take the first as a huge compliment to Adam --- Lambert has gone all out to capture the spirit of Mercury's flamboyance, energy and powerful voice, without ever becoming an impersonator. -- that is almost exactly what Adam has said. The second reason is even more interesting to me.... .Brian May taking the spotlight: Adam Lambert may be the band's nominal frontman, but these shows belong to May, and rightly so. Expect to see incredible, consistently energetic guitar playing from May, as well as the occasional ten-minute solo. And we mean occasional, because no-one likes a show-off.While I do not agree that these shows belong to May (and I think only someone who hasn't seen Q+AL 2014 would write this), I do agree that Brian is more outfront in Q+AL than with Queen. I am interested to see what the core Queen fans think of the collaborative dynamic of Q+AL. I think it is a very good thing. But it is really different than Queen was in 70's and 80's. Pipes in as core Queen fan. I think if you from an outside perspective - for non Glamberts than the show DOES in a sense belong to Brian. The non-Glamberts are the Queen fans or (hardcore or casual) and they are there for Queen's music played by Queen and Brian's guitar is the most Queenly thing about the show. (Honestly Rog's backing vocals to me are JUST as important but probably is too subtle for a lot of people to think of as Queen sound). So that's why Brian is the show. And I don't mean that in a harsh way at all. Not saying these people don't end up liking Adam or approving of the collaboration or whatever...but Brian *IS* their main reason to go (Rog is second fiddle to the casuals probably and some of the hardcores (NOT ME THOUGH ) Brian also does step up much more than with Freddie but that is part of the appeasement to the Queen crowd I think. See Brian has one thing up on Adam. They are his songs. Adam does a great interpretation, but his involvement is only with that concert/tour - this is Brian's life...Does that make sense? I'm not trying to belittle Adam's involvement - indeed they wouldn't be touring without him so I am eternally grateful, but Adam's always going to be this outside force that's just doing a great job, but not inside the great big ball of whatever that makes up Queen. And I feel the same way about Rufus, Neil, and Spike even and Spike's been around since '84! I enjoy, like, and am grateful to them all :D SO with that Brian is like the ringmaster of this circus while Adam is their high flying trapeze artist...
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Post by talon on Sept 30, 2014 8:05:17 GMT -5
Hey guys, quick question....I've been a bit distracted the past few days...I saw the 3 song official broadcast from Tokyo of NIH/SCC/Born To Love You. But I thought I saw somewhere that there had been a longer one? Am I just delusional. If not does anyone have a longer broadcast video downloaded they could point out to me? Thanks!
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Post by talon on Sept 29, 2014 7:18:15 GMT -5
Wow that was quick - already on presale. Good luck guys - hope you get what you want! The tour schedule still looks a little light to me...I'd bet on a few more dates to come...A second London O2 date is likely...I too am surprised at only the one Italian date. But I'm shocked at nothing in Spain. From what I had been told they had been looking heavily into where in Spain they were going to touch down. Perhaps that will be another added date at some point.... Why do I still feel optimistic after them saying a studio album wasn't happening...perhaps it's the for now I think that was put in place to let the fanbase know they are still working on their separate things before they decide to move forward with anything in the studio... I'm getting there too with your last thought. For awhile I've been thinking it's not going to happen, but now I'm starting to change my mind. They need to keep the PR machine in PC mode for awhile to appease everyone. What are your thoughts on them contributing to a track on A3? I'm not so sure to be honest. They are definitely having fun but I almost feel like Brian and Roger don't want to intrude on his solo album so to speak...at least this time around. I could be wrong but that's the way I'm reading it. I would be less surprised to see Rufus playing on it.
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Post by talon on Sept 29, 2014 6:55:12 GMT -5
Wow that was quick - already on presale. Good luck guys - hope you get what you want! The tour schedule still looks a little light to me...I'd bet on a few more dates to come...A second London O2 date is likely...I too am surprised at only the one Italian date. But I'm shocked at nothing in Spain. From what I had been told they had been looking heavily into where in Spain they were going to touch down. Perhaps that will be another added date at some point.... Why do I still feel optimistic after them saying a studio album wasn't happening...perhaps it's the for now I think that was put in place to let the fanbase know they are still working on their separate things before they decide to move forward with anything in the studio...
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Post by talon on Sept 27, 2014 13:24:06 GMT -5
A gentleman never kisses and tells In all seriousness though it is far more likely the DVD would be released just post tour - possibly around the same time as A3...Perhaps DVD March, A3 April. Brian and Roger can be very meticulous but they also can be rather quick if necessary. I mean you only have to look at QPR. With QPR, the first time around in 2005, they had a gig in May 2005 and it was released that same September on CD and October on DVD In 2008 QPR played a gig in the Ukraine in September and it was released in June of 2009. If they had recorded earlier gigs in the summer, a December/Jan release date would be more likely, however if we go by the more likely Australia date, that's where we say we won't see a DVD til March or so. It's possible that they decide to hold it back til next summer after A3. All I have talked to have said little about a release date beyond that it was on the table. >> I pretty much agree on the timing above. I think that the Q+AL Tour DVD timing will be based upon the Queen release schedule, and the Q+AL Tour schedule with some consideration of Adam's release schedule. >> I have spent a lot of time trying to track info on this DVD: "I Want I Now"! Here are the bits I have been able to find out: 1. This is a planned as a "concert film" -- not just a live album. It will have a lot of behind the scenes footage, bonus material and info about the tour. Multiple packages are planned. It will be more elaborate than the Q+PR effort. (very reliable source for this within Queen-world). 2. The release date is not set. It will not have a release date until it is done, approved by Q+AL and accepted by Universal. (reliable source within UMG, also this is the way it is "usually" done.) 3. It will not be released until they are done this tour. (Very reliable Queen source involved in the project during the NA Tour.) 4. The Q+AL tour will NOT end in Milan. (very reliable source for this within Queen-world) (secondary info is promoter info about another Q+AL date that is after Milan -- unconfirmed by me but seems legit) Funny, I went to inquire to some people I know within the circles and came back to see this post. My findings match up pretty close to Q3s findings The only clarifications: 1. The concert film thing.. I would stress that as of now is that the "package" is a proposal from QP. That's a long way from what ends up being released. Quite honestly QP often have proposals that make Queen fans' mouths drop. Somewhere along the line by the time it gets to the shelf, it is a far more watered down product. SO I wouldn't count my chickens on how big this set is going to be said. ON THE OTHER HAND...the Rainbow project is one that did not get watered down and is just about what was proposed so perhaps that is a nice signal for the future... 2. Agreed. 3. That goes with what I've heard too...although mine wasn't quite as sure about it. If they had enough time a December window was possible but my guy seems to think there won't be enough time for them to approve it all. 4. My tour guy also says Milan won't be the end.
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Post by talon on Sept 27, 2014 11:18:15 GMT -5
Absolutely. I think a project like this DVD/Blu Ray wouldn't be so big as to spoil sales for A3 so it could be at least a concurrent release (within the same quarter). I'm betting that generally QPL team would have a go at assembling a rough cut, with Justin Shirley and Joshua Macrae checking on sound. They would present it to B&R who would show Adam and they would have their input and it would go from there. As for Rainbow and early Queen...I'm right there with you! Listening to Rainbow also makes me realize how much I miss John Deacon....but ah well... The most noticeable missing piece to me is Freddie on piano. I've loved his voice and that is what most talk about but it's the piano being a more "upfront" instrument that's lacking in the post Freddie era. He played it with as much passion as he sang. Also, hearing him again on these songs, I was surprised at how much I missed hearing him.
Is the release doing well numbers wise??
I don't know numbers as I don't follow them much but I think it's doing decently for a 40 year old live album with no real big hits on it
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Post by talon on Sept 27, 2014 6:02:18 GMT -5
Absolutely. I think a project like this DVD/Blu Ray wouldn't be so big as to spoil sales for A3 so it could be at least a concurrent release (within the same quarter).
I'm betting that generally QPL team would have a go at assembling a rough cut, with Justin Shirley and Joshua Macrae checking on sound. They would present it to B&R who would show Adam and they would have their input and it would go from there.
As for Rainbow and early Queen...I'm right there with you! Listening to Rainbow also makes me realize how much I miss John Deacon....but ah well...
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Post by talon on Sept 27, 2014 4:35:24 GMT -5
You have an inside contact - go on, confess, Talon. Earlier is always better Regarding the DVD - do you have any idea what would be a reasonable timeframe for Brian/Roger to fuss over endlessly produce it given their history? Seems pretty quick, although my gut tells me they have already started. They certainly are inspired at the moment to capitalise on the momentum - it is truly a joy to see them so happy. A gentleman never kisses and tells In all seriousness though it is far more likely the DVD would be released just post tour - possibly around the same time as A3...Perhaps DVD March, A3 April. Brian and Roger can be very meticulous but they also can be rather quick if necessary. I mean you only have to look at QPR. With QPR, the first time around in 2005, they had a gig in May 2005 and it was released that same September on CD and October on DVD In 2008 QPR played a gig in the Ukraine in September and it was released in June of 2009. If they had recorded earlier gigs in the summer, a December/Jan release date would be more likely, however if we go by the more likely Australia date, that's where we say we won't see a DVD til March or so. It's possible that they decide to hold it back til next summer after A3. All I have talked to have said little about a release date beyond that it was on the table.
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Post by talon on Sept 27, 2014 3:04:37 GMT -5
Here we are about a month later - how's my timeline going? GAMEPLANQAL ENDS- Sept - Rainbow Released, Queen promote
Sept - Dec - Adam works on A3 and mostly finishes it. - Dec - Queen Forever Released, Queen promote
2015- Feb-Mar - QAL Tours Europe/UK possibly including performing new A3 single which is released around the same time and Love Kills back in setlist to promote Queen Forever
- April - A3 released, promotion
- Spring - Fall - A3 tour while Queen begins barebones work/writing/jamming for new QAL album
- Fall/Winter post A3 tour - QAL work on new album.
2016- Spring - QAL Album
- Summer - QAL world tour?
So Sept - Rainbow released, Queen promote - CHECK Sept - Dec - Adam works on A3 and mostly finishes - looking to be a CHECK Dec - Queen Forever Released, Queen promote - SLIGHTLY off...it will be released in November. 2015 Feb - Mar - QAL Tours Europe/UK - PRETTY CLOSE! Looks like more likely to be Jan-Feb So basically everything is about a month earlier than it should be. I will amend to say that with Queen Forever being released on Nov 10th, I would not be surprised to see the QAL DVD/BluRay in December or January right before they go on tour.
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Post by talon on Sept 27, 2014 2:50:27 GMT -5
Just a thought (and no inside info) could it be a double whammy announcement? Tour and DVD/BluRay?
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