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Post by PostFestumPF on Aug 2, 2011 16:49:46 GMT -5
Album's going to be a hit! He can SANG!
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Post by PostFestumPF on Aug 2, 2011 16:41:56 GMT -5
So true, Gelly! It's good that we get to "practice" before the storm epicenter is above us... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by PostFestumPF on Aug 2, 2011 16:25:10 GMT -5
ETA: I love that picture of Sauli and Adam on the red carpet. PDA! I'm so proud of them, still.... :D
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Post by PostFestumPF on Aug 2, 2011 16:08:34 GMT -5
My two cents: • Do NOT take Us Weekly's interpretation of this conversation as gospel. It's their job to be provocative and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they ~accidentallied some qualifiers off the conversation. • Adam has rarely been definitive like this about anything. He almost never says never, so why would he now when he's crazy in love? He has always left an open-door on issues such as these, even when he was completely single. • I think the lead of the piece belied the questioning they MAY have been going on: "What celebs might by flocking to NY to get married?" Adam quickly shut them down that it's not what he's there for. Maybe he should have phrased it a little less bluntly (if that is indeed what he said – again, BIG IF). • Not a big deal; he ends up in a new news cycle and even if he said it and meant it (which I rather doubt), he could change his mind tomorrow. It's his prerogative. I agree, SusieFierce. This whole thing is a tempest in a tea pot indeed, LOL. Whatever/however Adam did or did not respond to this question is bound to do rounds in the media one way or the other. We should know this by now... he's a hoopla magnet! ETA: I'm sure Sauli can take this in stride; he's been around and that's one of the many reasons why he is such a good partner for Adam.
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Post by PostFestumPF on Aug 2, 2011 15:30:25 GMT -5
Magazines don't always quote their interview subjects correctly. Adam might have said "I don't see myself getting married in the near future" or Adam himself might have accidentally left out the "near" even if that's what he meant. Not saying that Adam should want to get married; just pointing out that it wouldn't be the first time he was misquoted. I have to take issue with those who say marriage doesn't matter. The reason the LGBT community is fighting so hard to overturn discriminatory laws is that marriage does matter from a legal standpoint. Partners who are not legally married cannot make decisions for each other should one of them become incapacitated. They can't visit their sick loved ones in the hospital in some cases. They can't automatically inherit property. They can't file a joint tax return. Marriage exists to establish a legal relationship where there is no blood relationship. It's kinda like adopting each other. It's not legalizing sex or love--both of those things can happen just as easily outside of marriage. It's just a legal recognition of a couple's rights as they apply to one another. Well said... and I think we all can all agree that while marriage may not be for everyone... it should be everyones RIGHT should they choose to marry.. Good points, Murly. In this day and age there are ways to go around some/most of the issues you mentioned, but it will be much more complicated than getting married. Most won't go through the trouble and then when your partner is sick (or worse, dies) you really see the difference. Yes, I believe everyone should have the right to choose. So, both marriage, civil unions and registered partnerships should have same legal statuses. YMMV, with love.
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Post by PostFestumPF on Aug 2, 2011 14:51:57 GMT -5
ITA!! Im hoping that with each generation this will happen more and more. I know in my daughters circle of friends that a person's sexual perferance is not an issue, it is just part of who they are. But at the Idol concert this year, I was sitting next to a woman and her 19 - 20 year old daughter. The daughter was telling me some of her favorites from previous years. The first one she mentioned was Adam and how much she likes him. Then her next statement was "Too bad he turned out to be gay". I asked her why she thought that way because I feel that Adam is an incredible person and being gay is a part of who he is. I went on to mention that Adam has an exceptional talent and we are so fortunate that he will be sharing with us with amazing music to come from his next album. There has been other singers like Elton John or Melissa Etheridge who also gave us great music who happened to be gay Or others like Beyonce or the beatles (her choice) who happened to be straight. This is their talent and gift that they are sharing with the world. Her mother agreed with me. So hopefully that was food for thought for her. I also asked if she had seen Adam in concert since Idol? She said no. I told her to look up interviews and performances on You tube, that she was in for an enjoyable, enlightening and fun experience. I mentioned that Adam was my all time favorite for so many reasons and will always be. ITA Susie! Go, Feelalive & have a great birthday!
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Post by PostFestumPF on Aug 2, 2011 14:44:43 GMT -5
Honestly, I've been finding the "marriage" talk as it applies to Adam quite disturbing... I feel like it is a projection of someone else's ideals , goals... I applaud him for the answer he gave. Aside from "feelings", it is hard to find any reason for him to want to be married (obviously I have no idea)... I am projecting my own attitude here - I feel that a marriage is more likely than not to end in a divorce and as such is a "dangerous" enterprise for any celebrity to be engaged in... he is too young anyway, he needs to be free IMO... Same for Sauli or anyone else who might be in Adam's future... Why to be entangled in all kinds of legalities? What is it that they would "gain" from being married? Sauil's immigration status? - not a good reason at all IMHO... I am for ADAM in a free and loving relationship! Nica, I agree with you 100% Regarding ALFC; I intend to renew, but I'm waiting to see if they will come up with an upgraded membership package. At least they've gotten enough feedback to do something classy & stylish, maybe some cool fashion or jewelry pieces; something Adam would wear? Can't wait what they will come up with. ;D 8-)
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Post by PostFestumPF on Aug 2, 2011 14:16:13 GMT -5
May I add my story to this. I'm not young (I'm 52) and in these days everyone was married. I never thought of marriage as a big deal. The only reason I got married was cause my MIL said she would be ashamed to walk in public if we didn't get married in a church. Even my mother was OK with my decision. And my marriage was held in the most simple way. And now my daughter who is in a relationship for 8 years now, feels the same as me. She feels marriage adds nothing to her relationship and I happen to agree. No big deal. JMHO. ITA, gelly. I've been married 23 years and we did it simply - a Justice of the Peace and a witness. But, honestly, if we had to do it today, we probably would skip even that. A marriage license didn't validate our relationship, we did. I've been "mentally married" for 30 years; I never intended to marry; a piece of paper does not prove anything to us. My sister got divorced after 25 years of marriage, so... Most of my friends have "standard" marriage with 1-3 kids. We do not have kids, only dogs. After getting my second dog, I remember my mother confiding in me that she has given up on the thought of us having kids... I admitted, that she should probably get used to the idea. Based on that interview, I would not venture to guess what Adam's thoughts on marriage are; IMO this was the only answer he could give at the moment, without risking any further prying into his personal life. He has said love is his prime inspiration, so he's in love with Sauli. Great! This relationship has clearly been a good thing for Adam (and hopefully also for S); the man is practically glowing with happiness & looks so damn fine. They have already taken a huge step by living together. Time will tell, if it will lead to marriage or (life)long partnership. I'm fine either way, as long as it makes them happy.
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Post by PostFestumPF on Aug 1, 2011 19:01:19 GMT -5
This gif is killing me!! Adam is so in love with Sauli....Idek lol it's just the cutest thing. So happy for them. And, btw, love looks really great on him! ;D It does!
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Post by PostFestumPF on Aug 1, 2011 18:52:37 GMT -5
Momtomany, I knew your recap would be (sorry) EPIC when you told us you are not the same person after this concert. I was prepared, I knew what an amazing writer you are, but... Simply speechless. After reading your thoughts I know precisely why I can't hold back tears when I'm listening to Outlaws of Love. Love you! "For months now, I've contemplated what new music might mean. I just can't figure out how a new song can be written; a new emotion conveyed; when it seems every note, every melody has been played before. Somewhere, in the seed of joy that is Adam, that resides in my changed soul, I've known something awaits. And, here it was. The saddest broken heart of the man who has captured us all was broken open in front of me.
I cannot describe it well. But I have this movie that keeps running in my head, and I see Adam looking my way, saying "We can't change" - and I understand. We are who we are. And then, his perfect, anguished face, and his exquisite voice said to me, quietly crystal clear, "They say we'll rot in Hell" - and the hell of intolerance owned me. The revealing heartbreak continued, even as Adam reassured me "I don't think they will ". "Hearts and homes are broken". Why, oh why? I began to cry.
Stunned. Wanting to caress and create chaos at the same time. Soon after, the lightning began. And the sky broke open; and the Adam Storm began. Rain like I've never felt in my life pelted me, cleansed me. I let it soak me to the bone. And Adam drank it on the stage. Put his arms out and threw his head to the heavens, the Universe. We all felt the same rain."
"I was moved beyond myself, away from my ordinary being. I'm not the person I was before. Have to believe I'm wiser; if not 'more knowing'. I'm at least 'more ready to learn'. Until "Outlaws of Love" I hadn't felt the pain, although I knew it existed. I want to embrace the wound as my own, and find a cure; a way to heal it. I want to change the world. Adam inspires me to be fearless." Read more: adamtopia.com/index.cgi?board=daily&action=display&thread=425&page=19#ixzz1Tp3sBHV6
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