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Post by sizzling63 on Dec 19, 2016 0:32:32 GMT -5
Hmm we all like Adam's pictures it seems, but his (maybe new) followers on IG don't seem to like it somehow. He lost about 400 followers in the last couple of hours. He was well over 977k followers this morning (for me). He's now on 976.817. I am not surprised that Adam has lost a few followers the past few days (if the number is greater than the usual fluctuation) as some of the recent pictures were quite "out there", especially for the causal fan.
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Post by lurleene on Dec 19, 2016 0:38:21 GMT -5
"3. And finally, yes, I worked with Clear Channel in 2009 and there were some programming executives who wanted to get a gay artist on the air. Adam had the right song, at the right time. And the pushed it hard, eventually even Cumulus stations played WWFM."
This statement makes me really sad. All the other Idols were played with little problem even in my area. I live in the South and their reluctance to play Adam in my market was so disappointing and hurtful. They did take the time to joke about his sexuality tho and started to play him when his song was on the decline. I don't view this as any proof that Adam received advantages because he was gay. It was discrimination. He should have been treated like and played like everyone else, imo.
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Post by Q3 on Dec 19, 2016 0:39:40 GMT -5
MM never told Adam to hold back. From what I recall re was trying to get Adam to try different things with his voice. From a studio stand point. But I don't think he ever tried to change Adams voice. Adam did say that MM wanted him to pull his voice back. cheriemelissa is right. He WAS trying to get Adam to do different things with his voice. I thought it was a bad and strange move too. With a voice like that imo you don't restrain it. You let him wail and rip. Grateful that all the songs on the album weren't restrained. jmho I really like all three albums. The only thing that Adam ever does vocally that I do not like is when he starts to sound a bit like Liza Minnelli -- he did it in 2009-2011 (and pre-Idol). It is a vocal style that belongs in a 1970's musical but not on TV, radio, concert or recording, or anyplace in 2016. Here is the part of the Rolling Stone interview where he talked about the change in his vocal style -- my take is Adam evolved, and MM and Shellback encouraged him. "When I brought ['The Original High'] to Max and Shellback, they got really excited by it — they loved the sound, the feel, they liked the way I was singing it," says Lambert. "'We're used to hearing you go over the top, but it's really interesting to hear you pull back and do something more intimate,' they said. I think that was what made them want to do an album with me. They said, 'This is a new color of your voice that we want to dig into a little bit more.'"
On Idol, Lambert was known for his over-the-top takes on songs like "Ring of Fire," and his dance-diva turns on "Shady" (from his 2012 album Trespassing) and "Lay Me Down" (from Avicii's True) showed how he could use his voice at full throttle. But here, he's pulling back slightly while still giving full emotional weight to his performances.
"One of the things I've learned over the last six years, with Max and Shellback's help, is that sometimes in order to affect the listener emotionally, less is more," he says. "When I was younger, even on Idol, I was a bit more raw in the sense that I would get my original high — my spike of adrenaline — from performing. I would get so charged up and so excited in front of the audience that it would throw my energy through the roof. That's why I tend to be an over-the-top kind of performer. Figuring out how to channel it a little differently is interesting, and I've been trying to do that more lately. Internalizing it more, letting it settle and being more grounded."
Link: www.rollingstone.com/music/features/adam-lamberts-new-high-inside-the-powerhouse-belters-latest-reinvention-20150508
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Post by Q3 on Dec 19, 2016 0:45:04 GMT -5
"3. And finally, yes, I worked with Clear Channel in 2009 and there were some programming executives who wanted to get a gay artist on the air. Adam had the right song, at the right time. And the pushed it hard, eventually even Cumulus stations played WWFM." This statement makes me really sad. All the other Idols were played even in my area. I live in the South and their reluctance to play Adam was so disappointing and hurtful. They did take the time to joke about his sexuality tho and started to play him when his song was on the decline. I don't see this as any proof that Adam received advantages because he was gay but as discrimination. WWFM was played in every single radio market in the US -- even in Tupelo, MS (my adopted hometown) which is the only market in the US where the Oprah episode with Adam was not broadcast. It may be that you do not listen to one of the stations that play Adam music. A lot of Idols were played on HAC, AC, Urban/R&B and Country stations. Adam and Kelly Clarkson got a lot of Top 40 airplay.
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Post by AnnAdoresAdam on Dec 19, 2016 0:52:03 GMT -5
I have a problem finding anyone else to like. Since 2009, I can't stand to listen to anyone but Adam or follow anyone but Adam. I only think about, care about, want to listen to only Adam. I am having a very isolated life lately. I can't wait for more Adam music. Phew, this is good to hear. I thought I was alone in my little "no one else will do" bubble!!
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Post by lurleene on Dec 19, 2016 0:58:53 GMT -5
Don't know what was played in MS but I know what was played in my area because I live there and I listen to those stations. Kris, Daughtry, Kelly and Cook were played without delay as soon as their songs were released. I did not say Adam's WWFM was not played at all but it was played when his song was almost over and for a short period. I was almost in tears when I finally heard it. Even sent an email thanking them and the guy responded saying he really liked Adam also. I don't think he was the cause of the delay. I think a lot of us are in markets where Adam is almost ignored or played very little. Have no reason to make it up and I doubt others would either. But I am always happy to hear that he gets a lot of play in other markets. But it does not stop me from wanting to hear him is my area as well.
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Post by AnnAdoresAdam on Dec 19, 2016 1:07:01 GMT -5
Well I think he was out for evening at an event where costumes were the expected and he created his look because of the event. I could be proven wrong in a couple of months.. haha ....but relating make- up to new music ie...glam, never crossed my mind. Adam likes to add a dab of this and that and I certainly have never been able to predict when those days or occassions would be. It seems remarkable to me how many people he knows, and how many he meets, and the connections he makes. Happy to see that he seems to have quite a large circle of varied friends and aquaintances. Perhaps a special someone...sometime...will take his heart to a new place. (My thought...maybe not his ...lol) I remember him saying in an interview a while back that he spends a lot of time keeping up with his friends around the world so that wherever he is he has people to socialise with. When I see just how many pals he has my mind boggles that he even has time for a career. Keeping tabs on so many different people in so many different countries seems like a full-time job to me!
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Post by 1jun14 on Dec 19, 2016 1:10:31 GMT -5
Adam did say that MM wanted him to pull his voice back. cheriemelissa is right. He WAS trying to get Adam to do different things with his voice. I thought it was a bad and strange move too. With a voice like that imo you don't restrain it. You let him wail and rip. Grateful that all the songs on the album weren't restrained. jmho I really like all three albums. The only thing that Adam ever does vocally that I do not like is when he starts to sound a bit like Liza Minnelli -- he did it in 2009-2011 (and pre-Idol). It is a vocal style that belongs in a 1970's musical but not on TV, radio, concert or recording, or anyplace in 2016. Here is the part of the Rolling Stone interview where he talked about the change in his vocal style -- my take is Adam evolved, and MM and Shellback encouraged him. "When I brought ['The Original High'] to Max and Shellback, they got really excited by it — they loved the sound, the feel, they liked the way I was singing it," says Lambert. "'We're used to hearing you go over the top, but it's really interesting to hear you pull back and do something more intimate,' they said. I think that was what made them want to do an album with me. They said, 'This is a new color of your voice that we want to dig into a little bit more.'"
On Idol, Lambert was known for his over-the-top takes on songs like "Ring of Fire," and his dance-diva turns on "Shady" (from his 2012 album Trespassing) and "Lay Me Down" (from Avicii's True) showed how he could use his voice at full throttle. But here, he's pulling back slightly while still giving full emotional weight to his performances.
"One of the things I've learned over the last six years, with Max and Shellback's help, is that sometimes in order to affect the listener emotionally, less is more," he says. "When I was younger, even on Idol, I was a bit more raw in the sense that I would get my original high — my spike of adrenaline — from performing. I would get so charged up and so excited in front of the audience that it would throw my energy through the roof. That's why I tend to be an over-the-top kind of performer. Figuring out how to channel it a little differently is interesting, and I've been trying to do that more lately. Internalizing it more, letting it settle and being more grounded."
Link: www.rollingstone.com/music/features/adam-lamberts-new-high-inside-the-powerhouse-belters-latest-reinvention-20150508Thanks for finding this. So many interviews and articles about Adam. I would have never found it on my own. lol I KNEW that MM and Shellback had encouraged him to pull back his voice.
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Post by 3ku1 on Dec 19, 2016 1:11:39 GMT -5
Adam did say that MM wanted him to pull his voice back. cheriemelissa is right. He WAS trying to get Adam to do different things with his voice. I thought it was a bad and strange move too. With a voice like that imo you don't restrain it. You let him wail and rip. Grateful that all the songs on the album weren't restrained. jmho I really like all three albums. The only thing that Adam ever does vocally that I do not like is when he starts to sound a bit like Liza Minnelli -- he did it in 2009-2011 (and pre-Idol). It is a vocal style that belongs in a 1970's musical but not on TV, radio, concert or recording, or anyplace in 2016. Here is the part of the Rolling Stone interview where he talked about the change in his vocal style -- my take is Adam evolved, and MM and Shellback encouraged him. "When I brought ['The Original High'] to Max and Shellback, they got really excited by it — they loved the sound, the feel, they liked the way I was singing it," says Lambert. "'We're used to hearing you go over the top, but it's really interesting to hear you pull back and do something more intimate,' they said. I think that was what made them want to do an album with me. They said, 'This is a new color of your voice that we want to dig into a little bit more.'"
On Idol, Lambert was known for his over-the-top takes on songs like "Ring of Fire," and his dance-diva turns on "Shady" (from his 2012 album Trespassing) and "Lay Me Down" (from Avicii's True) showed how he could use his voice at full throttle. But here, he's pulling back slightly while still giving full emotional weight to his performances.
"One of the things I've learned over the last six years, with Max and Shellback's help, is that sometimes in order to affect the listener emotionally, less is more," he says. "When I was younger, even on Idol, I was a bit more raw in the sense that I would get my original high — my spike of adrenaline — from performing. I would get so charged up and so excited in front of the audience that it would throw my energy through the roof. That's why I tend to be an over-the-top kind of performer. Figuring out how to channel it a little differently is interesting, and I've been trying to do that more lately. Internalizing it more, letting it settle and being more grounded."
Link: www.rollingstone.com/music/features/adam-lamberts-new-high-inside-the-powerhouse-belters-latest-reinvention-20150508Yeah it sounded to me they liked Adams voice more overt. Didfnt sound like MM was attempting to change how Adam sings at all. But guess depends on your interpretation I suspose.
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Post by 1jun14 on Dec 19, 2016 1:52:30 GMT -5
Not looking to be argumentative AT ALL. But do you really think that Adam closed the AMAs and got on the cover of Rolling Stone because he was gay? Rolling Stone was where he first announced it publicly. I thought that he got Rolling Stone cover and AMAs because he was the freshest most talented and compelling person in music in a long, long time. Michael Jackson/Elvis impact level. I never considered the AMAs slot was because he is gay. I never thought that ANY opportunity that he got was because he was gay. I thought his talent got him to where he was. Maybe I'm just reading into it wrong. ,,,,,, I edited your comment to just the question. I often read fans posting about all the barriers Adam has faced, but he has also gotten some compensating opportunities. 1. Rolling Stone article and cover - Adam got this because it was the first interview where he talked about being gay. This was publicly said in interviews by the writer, editor and Adam. If Adam was just another runner up from Idol, he would not have been on the cover of Rolling Stone. 2. Closing the AMAs - Adam got on the show because of RCA promo deal, but he got the closing slot because it was his first post Idol TV performance and because the producers wanted to hype him because he was the "flamboyant and provocative" -- I know a lot of people associated with this program. (I also think this turned out to be a net positive for Adam. I know many disagree iwth me.) 3. And finally, yes, I worked with Clear Channel in 2009 and there were some programming executives who wanted to get a gay artist on the air. Adam had the right song, at the right time. And the pushed it hard, eventually even Cumulus stations played WWFM. re #1...The interviewer, Vanessa Grigoriadis, had said that Adam saying he was gay was the easiest "get" that she ever had. He just came right out with it without her even having to ask him. She was pretty shocked that he was so straight forward with the information. Like it wasn't a big deal to him. lol I still disagree that he was interviewed by Rolling Stone because he was gay. I still think it was because he was so exciting and a hugely interesting new talent. Having said that...I have no doubt that she would have brought it up. And we all know that Adam would have evaded it if he really wanted too. But he was ready to speak on his own terms and in HIS context. The whole interview was brilliant. Adam on his own terms. It would set the trend for him. He showed great courage and fierceness that would become his refreshing trademark. re #2...Well that is just sad. "Flamboyant and Provocative" Seems like blatantly putting him out there to boost ratings. Doesn't seem like a thought was given to the fact that he was a human being at all. Ratings, ratings, ratings. geez. I do agree with you that it was a net positive for him in the long run. I'm sure it was awful for him directly in the aftermath (see what I did there lol) but he got a much needed conversation going. Again, imo he was brilliant in the manner that he handled it all. re #3...Gobsmacked really. Programming executives wanted to get a gay artist on the air??? Wow. It's no wonder that radio is shit with these mental giants at the helm. This imo is the highest form of homophobia and discrimination. Thanks for answering and posting these insights. I appreciate it.
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