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Post by thelambertluvva on Feb 25, 2018 16:37:01 GMT -5
I think it's a bunch of BS to me also. I think Queen probably just dumped him since he's doing something that competes with QEX. Not sure if Queen had one but I know when I've started new jobs, I've signed contracts where you cannot do something that competes with the current employer. I hope this means that we'll see less bashing by the MM trolls on anything that has to do with Adam. For the moment most of the bashing has moved to the NEW new guy. It is a shame though that the change was not known when the tickets first went on sale...it strikes me as having happened quite recently. Wonder if this is part of why Brian has been in a bit of a funk. It is interesting as the new guy sounds NOTHING like Freddie at all. And I think that's what people want in a tribute band is for it to sound exactly like the band they are paying tribute to. I wouldn't be too happy either thinking I was getting someone who sounded exactly like the singer they are supposed to be imitating and get someone who doesn't sound like him at all. Speaking of imitating, I was reading some comments on Marc vs Adam video (yes I like to punish myself, as I also read the horrible comments on QZ, QOL, and Facebook) and someone put quotes from Marc that he does like to imitate singers and indeed he is imitating Freddie. "... I have always been a natural mimic. I just loved imitating voices that I enjoyed listening to .... George Michael, Freddie Mercury, Jeff Buckley, Bono ..... I would listen closely trying to get the vocal tone just right .... and I would do that until I felt like I could do a believable impression....."---Marc Martel She also put a quote of one of Marc's fans saying he doesn't have a rasp when he sings his own songs, he put it in there to sound like Freddie. I found the original source of the comment, which is a WWTLF video he did in Mexico 3 months ago. I believe it's the first time he ever sang it in public as I kept searching for him singing it in the past and always came up empty. Cassie, would like to hear your take on it but don't read the comments as they are Adam bashing. " You must not listen to Freddie singing live. Marc adds he raspiness because that is the way Freddie sang live. Marc has 15 albums of non-raspy high notes. He adds it in when sing in Freddie's style." So I always thought it was strange when the Marc fans would insist he is NOT imitating or impersonating. It kinda reminds me of when Adam was doing that TakeOne album. He said he was told to imitate someone although I never knew who that was. I still thought his voice sounded good even though I never bought that album.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 16:40:54 GMT -5
This article has some information www.easysonglicensing.com/pages/help/articles/licensing-music/what-is-a-public-performance-license.aspx“Whenever you perform in public a song you did not write, or play recorded music in public, such as at a club, restaurant, concert, on the radio, or streaming on the Internet, you might need to obtain Public Performance Rights. Business owners in the United States should contact the three rights agencies that handle all public performance licensing in the U.S., ASCAP.com, BMI.com, and SESAC.com, to inquire about licensing for their venues. Expect to report your playlists to these agencies, and share a small percentage of your revenues for royalties, which the agencies then distribute to the copyright holders. In most cases these rights are covered by the venue, so small indie artists, educators, and DJs often don't need to secure these for private events. Also, most radio stations handle their own public performance licensing, so playing live public radio at the venue is usually fine. If you are unsure about your scenario, you should ask the venue or contact ASCAP.com, BMI.com, or SESAC.com for details. A public performance license is required no matter how small a portion of the song you use. There are some exceptions where a public performance license is not required: You don't need a public performance license for songs that you wrote yourself or songs that are in the public domain.“ Following their link to public domain indicates song published prior to 1923 are public domain.
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Post by girldrummer on Feb 25, 2018 16:42:30 GMT -5
Is Queen music “public domain”? Can anyone start a tribute band and start using those songs? How does this work? The music is supposed to be licensed for use. From what I recall during the last political campaigns, as long as the VENUE has a blanket license that includes the music then it can be used, otherwise the artist would need to license it. I gather this covers live cover performances as well as using original recordings. graciejane, I think you're right. Their music is not in the public domain. If it is used in any official performance way, it has to be covered by a venue license or an official approval by the band. Either way, the band gets its royalties for the use of their music. I used to me more well-versed on all this with print materials, like books, etc., because of my job. But I think their music is protected under the copyright laws.
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Post by girldrummer on Feb 25, 2018 16:45:30 GMT -5
The music is supposed to be licensed for use. From what I recall during the last political campaigns, as long as the VENUE has a blanket license that includes the music then it can be used, otherwise the artist would need to license it. I gather this covers live cover performances as well as using original recordings. graciejane, I think you're right. Their music is not in the public domain. If it is used in any official performance way, it has to be covered by a venue license or an official approval by the band. Either way, the band gets its royalties for the use of their music. I used to me more well-versed on all this with print materials, like books, etc., because of my job. But I think their music is protected under the copyright laws. And if I'm wrong, I hope someone here who is more up-to-date on all this can let us know. It affects anyone who records music and copyrights it. I know that music is "stolen" all the time, but it's not right to do it.
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Post by nightowl on Feb 25, 2018 16:46:32 GMT -5
There are numerous coverbands all over the world. It can't be too hard, to get the rights to play their songs. The question for me is, if it's a decent move to establish your own coverband, after being established as the "best Freddie-soundalike" by Queen themselves.
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Post by thelambertluvva on Feb 25, 2018 16:51:13 GMT -5
There are numerous coverbands all over the world. It can't be too hard, to get the rights to play their songs. The question for me is, if it's a decent move to establish your own coverband, after being established as the "best Freddie-soundalike" by Queen themselves. I've seen some comments that Queen didn't have the decency to publicly thank Marc for his years of performing for them. I guess if we don't see anything like that, there might be some bad blood. Queen also got him that job performing vocals for the movie.
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Post by cassie on Feb 25, 2018 16:55:29 GMT -5
Performers in every little club and school dance cover songs all the time. Almost none pay any kind of fee. Is it legal? Probably not. But no one cares unless they are making big bucks and getting lots of attention by doing so.
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Post by nica575 on Feb 25, 2018 16:56:02 GMT -5
There are numerous coverbands all over the world. It can't be too hard, to get the rights to play their songs. The question for me is, if it's a decent move to establish your own coverband, after being established as the "best Freddie-soundalike" by Queen themselves. Yup, and this is THE question of the ethics of this development...
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Post by 3ku1 on Feb 25, 2018 17:04:11 GMT -5
So is Adam Freddie in this instance compared to this new guy lol? Perspective. Look their are Marc Martel fans and then their are Adam Lambert fans. Fan Bias end of the day. I don't dislike Martel. I think he is very good at what he does. He does imitate Freddie, so he is perfect for the Extravanganza tour. I just don't think he offers what Adam can. Adam has the big range to all the Queens catalogue. He is charasmatic as hell, huge stage presence. Good looking I suspose lol. Great personality, great sense of humor. All qualities Freddie had. I just don't see that in Marc or any other singer. Not a slight to Marc or any other artist out their. Just Adam is one in a billion.
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Post by cassie on Feb 25, 2018 17:12:07 GMT -5
For the moment most of the bashing has moved to the NEW new guy. It is a shame though that the change was not known when the tickets first went on sale...it strikes me as having happened quite recently. Wonder if this is part of why Brian has been in a bit of a funk. It is interesting as the new guy sounds NOTHING like Freddie at all. And I think that's what people want in a tribute band is for it to sound exactly like the band they are paying tribute to. I wouldn't be too happy either thinking I was getting someone who sounded exactly like the singer they are supposed to be imitating and get someone who doesn't sound like him at all. Speaking of imitating, I was reading some comments on Marc vs Adam video (yes I like to punish myself, as I also read the horrible comments on QZ, QOL, and Facebook) and someone put quotes from Marc that he does like to imitate singers and indeed he is imitating Freddie. "... I have always been a natural mimic. I just loved imitating voices that I enjoyed listening to .... George Michael, Freddie Mercury, Jeff Buckley, Bono ..... I would listen closely trying to get the vocal tone just right .... and I would do that until I felt like I could do a believable impression....."---Marc Martel She also put a quote of one of Marc's fans saying he doesn't have a rasp when he sings his own songs, he put it in there to sound like Freddie. I found the original source of the comment, which is a WWTLF video he did in Mexico 3 months ago. I believe it's the first time he ever sang it in public as I kept searching for him singing it in the past and always came up empty. Cassie, would like to hear your take on it but don't read the comments as they are Adam bashing. " You must not listen to Freddie singing live. Marc adds he raspiness because that is the way Freddie sang live. Marc has 15 albums of non-raspy high notes. He adds it in when sing in Freddie's style." So I always thought it was strange when the Marc fans would insist he is NOT imitating or impersonating. It kinda reminds me of when Adam was doing that TakeOne album. He said he was told to imitate someone although I never knew who that was. I still thought his voice sounded good even though I never bought that album. You got me to go looking for the video. My reaction? Sounds a lot like Freddie's rendition. A LOT. Nothing like Adam's. HIs tone is much sharper, more brittle than Adam's. There isn't the rich roundness and depth I am used to. The phrasing is choppier, less legato. Less sustain. Also, none of the flourishes that Adam adds. Also, I don't get any tenderness. Less nuance. I was curious if this was Martel's natural tone and sound, so I checked some non-Queen renditions. He had a much more refined sound on some other things I checked out. With more richness. Tho' still not anything extraordinary to me. A nice voice. Serviceable. Adam has nothing to worry about with Queen material or any other.
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