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Post by Q3 on Aug 21, 2019 19:37:32 GMT -5
I find it interesting that NYT didn’t bother reviewing MSG shows this time around( unless I missed it)... one would think that they’d do it given the “answer” they got from QAL re “harmonies being too good to be live”... oh well... I guess too much stuff going on in the city ... Unless I am missing something, the last QAL review by the NYT was in 2014. So they passed on the 2017 Barclays Center concert, too.
My guess is that they do not consider it to be "new" enough to be news.
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Post by Q3 on Aug 21, 2019 19:41:57 GMT -5
Jablea thank you I'm so glad you understand what I meant. Oh I have to look this user up. Shame I wonder what's happened to him why he isn't here for the current tour. Hope he returns at some point would love to be able to chat with him too. svca I understand where you are coming from completely and even I admitted in my post just two or three days back that I think since his death and maybe more so since the movie he has been elevated to god like status. It does tend to happen from what I've seen not just with singers even with other iconic figures. I just got a bit upset maybe I shouldn't have I also haven't had the greatest of days so I think the stress contributed to my response. talon not only participated in tour discussions but he actually shared his expertise and created a full blown college course worth on everything Queen. it was deeply appreciated, especially for those of us who didn’t know much about them. It is here: adamtopia.com/board/84/queen-discussionThe “college course” is 95 pages long! and it is absolutely fascinating even for those familiar with their music and history. I highly recommend going thru it as your time allows. talon, come back! You're right -- this is an amazing effort and a great resource/ Talon has been here recently, so not gone, just quiet.
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Post by pi on Aug 21, 2019 19:53:23 GMT -5
I do not know a lot about vocal care but Freddie drank a lot, I mean a lot, of vodka (and other substances) prior to performing and also drink vodka while he was performing -- at least through 1982. (After that I have limited knowledge of their concert behavior because they abandoned the Queen fans in the US.) I believe some of his vocal issue were not related to the nodules but to his poor vocal technique. This is not so much about vocal training as it is about singing arena rock style music and the damage it caused to rock frontmen in the 70's as concerts moved to arenas and became really loud. He did a lot of extreme screams in the early years -- for example, "Ogre Battle" -- something Adam does not do.
Does singing while drinking a lot of alcohol lead to vocal damage? I am interested in knowing if singing with a loud falsetto also causes vocal issues. I recall it sounding strained at times when Freddie was singing in his loud falsetto. Didn't he also smoke, which wouldn't have been great for his voice?
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Post by adamrocks on Aug 21, 2019 19:56:36 GMT -5
You're right -- this is an amazing effort and a great resource/ Talon has been here recently, so not gone, just quiet.
Has Talon posted about the QAL 2019 North American Tour concerts recently? I must have missed it. I was wondering what he thought of the new production and adding/taking out/adding etc.(lol) Machines?!
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Aug 21, 2019 19:59:19 GMT -5
I do not know a lot about vocal care but Freddie drank a lot, I mean a lot, of vodka (and other substances) prior to performing and also drink vodka while he was performing -- at least through 1982. (After that I have limited knowledge of their concert behavior because they abandoned the Queen fans in the US.) I believe some of his vocal issue were not related to the nodules but to his poor vocal technique. This is not so much about vocal training as it is about singing arena rock style music and the damage it caused to rock frontmen in the 70's as concerts moved to arenas and became really loud. He did a lot of extreme screams in the early years -- for example, "Ogre Battle" -- something Adam does not do.
Does singing while drinking a lot of alcohol lead to vocal damage? I am interested in knowing if singing with a loud falsetto also causes vocal issues. I recall it sounding strained at times when Freddie was singing in his loud falsetto. Didn't he also smoke, which wouldn't have been great for his voice? And now I am seeing more and more about vaping, i.e. e-cigs, causing lung damage in some folks and even blowing up in folks faces causing great damage. Make me a little worried as Adam seems to partake in those.
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Post by csquared on Aug 21, 2019 20:07:19 GMT -5
Didn't he also smoke, which wouldn't have been great for his voice? And now I am seeing more and more about vaping, i.e. e-cigs, causing lung damage in some folks and even blowing up in folks faces causing great damage. Make me a little worried as Adam seems to partake in those. And we know Adam likes his weed, which probably also can damage voices. I know when I used it back in college many many moons ago, haha, I developed a heck of a cough. Unfortunately there still hasn’t been a lot of research on the physical effects, good or bad.
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Post by cassie on Aug 21, 2019 20:21:52 GMT -5
I do not know a lot about vocal care but Freddie drank a lot, I mean a lot, of vodka (and other substances) prior to performing and also drink vodka while he was performing -- at least through 1982. (After that I have limited knowledge of their concert behavior because they abandoned the Queen fans in the US.) I believe some of his vocal issue were not related to the nodules but to his poor vocal technique. This is not so much about vocal training as it is about singing arena rock style music and the damage it caused to rock frontmen in the 70's as concerts moved to arenas and became really loud. He did a lot of extreme screams in the early years -- for example, "Ogre Battle" -- something Adam does not do.
Does singing while drinking a lot of alcohol lead to vocal damage? I am interested in knowing if singing with a loud falsetto also causes vocal issues. I recall it sounding strained at times when Freddie was singing in his loud falsetto. Didn't he also smoke, which wouldn't have been great for his voice? You are both right. Smoking is terrible for the voice, and alcohol is bad, too. jeanniedeva.com/free-vocal-tips/singers-alcohol/ As for the falsetto, I have not heard of it being bad for the vocal cords, but knowing a little about how it is produced, forcing a loud sound in falsetto would seem to damage or bruise the cords. But, also, cords that are damaged may not work well for producing the falsetto sound. It may be that Freddie didn't use falsetto later because it was not reliable due to his damaged cords.
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Post by adamrocks on Aug 21, 2019 20:52:16 GMT -5
Please scroll if not interested. Bringing it back to Adam..since he is singing and performing with Queen I thought these videos might be enjoyed here.
I found this video of someone interviewing Queen in Leiden in 1984 and found it really interesting because they talk about the band forming, evolving, and the reason behind some of their songs.
And this interview by Freddie with ET in 1982 talking about his performing persona. Some of what Freddie says reminds me of Adam.
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Aug 21, 2019 21:01:21 GMT -5
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Post by svca on Aug 21, 2019 21:16:36 GMT -5
I liked that 2nd video of Freddie talking about performing. His talk about being a slave to your audience reminded me of our discussions about Adam. I hope Adam always follows his creative muse, even if it means I may not always "love" his creations. I think if you're a creative person like Adam, and you're not allowed to let that out, your soul would die. Sounds dramatic, but that's what my daughter told me many years ago, she's an artist.
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