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Post by lorraine on Aug 27, 2019 18:51:02 GMT -5
It always bothered me that the gay community did not support Adam the way they should have at the beginning. Seems a little self defeating in my opinion. Jealousy may have played a role in Adam's case, and may be not fitting the typical "hot gay" stereotype. I'm only guessing here. I have felt, for a long time , that jealously plays a real part in the lack of support for Adam from many in the gay community,{especially in the beginning.} I have a dear friend, a colleague of mine for many years, who was so dismissive of Adam when I asked him what he thought of his voice.{My friend was also a singer and performed occasionally for celebrity events in LA.} He actually said that he wasn't even worth listening to--- and was more harsh in his criticism than I have ever heard anyone else {gay or straight} in regards to Adam's voice. Yes, he's still my friend bit I have never brought Adam's name up in conversation again!
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Post by cheriemelissa on Aug 27, 2019 18:57:52 GMT -5
Jealousy may have played a role in Adam's case, and may be not fitting the typical "hot gay" stereotype. I'm only guessing here. I have felt, for a long time , that jealously plays a real part in the lack of support for Adam from many in the gay community,{especially in the beginning.} I have a dear friend, a colleague of mine for many years, who was so dismissive of Adam when I asked him what he thought of his voice.{My friend was also a singer and performed occasionally for celebrity events in LA.} He actually said that he wasn't even worth listening to--- and was more harsh in his criticism than I have ever heard anyone else {gay or straight} in regards to Adam's voice. Yes, he's still my friend bit I have never brought Adam's name up in conversation again! I know he's your friend but that's part of the reason Adam can't get a break from some people. Most people who are fans of an artist keep on about them, you don't have to beat them over the head but to never bring Adam up again!!! I bet your friend talks about his favorite artist.
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Post by nica575 on Aug 27, 2019 18:59:49 GMT -5
Good point made by Larry Flick and the gay community's obsession with Lizzo. So true that they embrace their divas, even the fat ones, but that they are very picky when it comes to celebrating or even accepting similar types within their own community. There must be some psychological aspect behind it. It always bothered me that the gay community did not support Adam the way they should have at the beginning. Seems a little self defeating in my opinion. They still don’t imo. What has changed? I bet anything they will not support Velvet either. To me as an outsider it is all a mystery but it seems (from the outside) they truly eat their own. In general it is a very interesting discussion- trying to understand the sociological and psychological drivers behind certain behaviors, seemingly shared by a large group of people who, one would think, could derive a benefit from doing it one way but yet they as a group choose to do the opposite... any insight anyone?
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Post by lorraine on Aug 27, 2019 19:11:57 GMT -5
I have felt, for a long time , that jealously plays a real part in the lack of support for Adam from many in the gay community,{especially in the beginning.} I have a dear friend, a colleague of mine for many years, who was so dismissive of Adam when I asked him what he thought of his voice.{My friend was also a singer and performed occasionally for celebrity events in LA.} He actually said that he wasn't even worth listening to--- and was more harsh in his criticism than I have ever heard anyone else {gay or straight} in regards to Adam's voice. Yes, he's still my friend bit I have never brought Adam's name up in conversation again! I know he's your friend but that's part of the reason Adam can't get a break from some people. Most people who are fans of an artist keep on about them, you don't have to beat them over the head but to never bring Adam up again!!! I bet your friend talks about his favorite artist. Believe me, I know this person enough to realize that nothing I say would have made a difference.And there are too many reasons,which you aren't aware of, that would have made matters worse, if I persisted. And ....I have spent the last 10 years singing my praises and adoration for Adam and his music that most who know me already think I'm absolutely nuts---but that's okay. They seem to love me still---
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Post by sizzling63 on Aug 27, 2019 19:23:02 GMT -5
Jealousy may have played a role in Adam's case, and may be not fitting the typical "hot gay" stereotype. I'm only guessing here. I have felt, for a long time , that jealously plays a real part in the lack of support for Adam from many in the gay community,{especially in the beginning.} I have a dear friend, a colleague of mine for many years, who was so dismissive of Adam when I asked him what he thought of his voice.{My friend was also a singer and performed occasionally for celebrity events in LA.} He actually said that he wasn't even worth listening to--- and was more harsh in his criticism than I have ever heard anyone else {gay or straight} in regards to Adam's voice. Yes, he's still my friend bit I have never brought Adam's name up in conversation again! I understand why you decided to not bring up Adam's name again to your friend. It's wasted energy and for me it's pointless trying to turn people around to become a fan. If someone in return did that to me, I would be very annoyed.
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Post by pi on Aug 27, 2019 19:31:08 GMT -5
Emperor Maximus ... I love, love, love Adam's song, and I find it perfectly suited for him. I have "Give The People What They Want" on my "recent singles" streaming regimen Q3 made a good point some threads ago about keeping our priorities straight, and she emphasized that this song is not really important in terms of numbers, etc., and focus would be best placed on the songs from Velvet if we want a tour, so I took it off my streaming and am mainly streaming songs from Velvet.
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Post by lurleene on Aug 27, 2019 19:35:34 GMT -5
I know he's your friend but that's part of the reason Adam can't get a break from some people. Most people who are fans of an artist keep on about them, you don't have to beat them over the head but to never bring Adam up again!!! I bet your friend talks about his favorite artist. Believe me, I know this person enough to realize that nothing I say would have made a difference.And there are too many reasons,which you aren't aware of, that would have made matters worse, if I persisted. And ....I have spent the last 10 years singing my praises and adoration for Adam and his music that most who know me already think I'm absolutely nuts---but that's okay. They seem to love me still--- I sorta get where you are coming from. My experience was not with a gay person but I was at a dinner with friends after the AMA's. I brought up Adam and a few of them took him down. Most just listened as they had not seen the performance. It hurt so much, to see such distaste for him, that I never brought him up again with that group of friends. I have had dinner with that same group, every few years, and their attitudes may have changed as far as I know. But so many other things to talk about on the occasion that I'm with them so I don't bring him up at all. I need to protect my heart, lol. But I do have others who allow me to chat away about him. They don't follow him closely but think he is talented and seem to like him just fine.
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Post by bamafan on Aug 27, 2019 19:43:52 GMT -5
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Post by pi on Aug 27, 2019 19:48:54 GMT -5
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Post by 4EverAdam on Aug 27, 2019 20:09:28 GMT -5
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