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Post by svca on Aug 18, 2020 14:47:43 GMT -5
Hey guys! Just wanted to share with you Adam's special performance for the Montréal Pride festival! He comes on at 15:22! Feel free to share! Love xxxxx Thank you! I started watching yesterday, and forgot that Adam wasn't on right away. I didn't really like the person that was on first (understatement).
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Post by LindaG23 on Aug 18, 2020 14:58:49 GMT -5
I went back to proof my post and noticed that the five-letter name of 45 beginning with T had disappeared. I'm not posting as often so I just assumed that I had mis-typed my entry and tried again. Disappeared. Strange. Tried one more time then the 💡 came on.
Hahahaha - nice one. Now if I could just make the same thing work IRL at the white 🏠 that would be magically delicious.
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Post by sizzling63 on Aug 18, 2020 15:01:20 GMT -5
I think Michelle's speech was great. To me, she made the most important point of all. VOTE! It's our most important POWER in this country! People die for right to vote throughout the world. DO IT! And I agree with her that a vote for a third party candidate really doesn't help anyone. Do it if you want to, but your vote will not have the impact you want it to have. Or worse, it will have the opposite impact from what you would want it to have. I find it hard to believe that, say, the Bernie Bros who voted third party in 2016 wanted to see the changes that have taken place over 45's term in office. As long as we have to deal with the electoral college, protest voting is downright dangerous. A 3rd party vote is, essentially, a vote for 45. If that's what you want to do, you have that right, but don't do it thinking your ~purity is more important than the fate of the country. It's a big reason I was impressed with Bernie's speech as well. I'm sure he recognizes that the protest votes from his followers in 2016 likely had an impact on the election out of all proportion to their actual numbers, and he took pains to convince them not to go down that road again. Bernie's speech was important and may I say "classy", and hopefully bitter lessons from the 2016 outcome have been learned. I really like Bernie but I have always found it narrow minded and selfish for a Democrat to protest vote for him. In our two party system, anything but supporting the official Democratic nominee is giving "T" and his Republicans the vote.
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Post by sizzling63 on Aug 18, 2020 15:04:58 GMT -5
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Post by LindaG23 on Aug 18, 2020 15:10:04 GMT -5
I didn't watch the Dem convention. I did't even know it was on. I spent my night watching the NBA playoffs. My team isn't playing Last year was their 5th straight year going to the finals (winning 3) but this year they were the worst team, 30th out of 30. Maybe next year. I've decided not to absentee vote, not with T trying to de-fund the Post Office regarding absentee ballots. So I'm taking my walker (with a seat), my mask. my gloves and I'm going to early vote for Biden on October 14!!! I may even get my son to go. This election is just too important not to vote. READY TO RUN!!!Our teams got well acquainted last June, I believe, haha! I’m sure the Warriors will do much better next season with Steph and Klay healthy. What the season might actually look like remains to be seen. As for the Convention, Day 1 - I enjoyed listening to John Kasich because he’s the living proof it is possible to have “your beliefs” and still not be OK with and condone the clown show currently going on in the White House and all it represents. Although not in the past a huge basketball fan, I am totally jonesing on basketball right now. The NBA and the player's union financing Yale's work for a rapid covid saliva test and then putting it out at cost is humanity at it's best. Then the WNBA stance on racial justice is awe-inspiring. I am now a basketball supporter and I love all the fan screens around the court. What an ingenious idea!
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Post by LindaG23 on Aug 18, 2020 15:12:04 GMT -5
See what happens when I don't post for a while ... I can't shut up :D
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Post by marionm on Aug 18, 2020 15:16:04 GMT -5
OK, going to pocke in a Hornets nest but oh well. To make things clear: i admire Michelle, she is a outstanding orator, she's intelligent, diginified and i repsect her BIG TIME. One can only Imagine, what the years at the White House meant for her. Two things irked me ALOT in her speach: first the "lesser evelism" was startling and eerily reminicend of 2016. With someone like in the White House HOW on earth, for all that's good can the democrats not come up with more of a reason or better reasons to be voted for than "we're Not as Bad as /we're better than ". Also the blatantly clear shame and blame to third party voters just pushes my buttons to absolutely NO end! OK, now going to run for the Hills and hide out.🤐 There is no reason to run for the hills, but I think it is important to understand that Germany has a very different system of government. Parliamentary democracy operates such that multiple parties can elect local representatives to national government and if no party has a majority, they can exercise their local power to negotiate preferred outcomes with other parties even going as far as to influence who is the party leader. National leadership, such as the country's President, is not voted for directly and in a coalition government is still somewhat beholden to other parties. This gives third party voters some hope that their political positions will have influence and can encourage change. Merkel is beholden to her coalition. If you grew up in this system then it is not unreasonable to approve of building power as a smaller party by voting and using that power to influence national policy. But, the US president, which is a very powerful position, is not chosen this way and our country is very strongly two party. Third party votes, therefore, more often than not, are spoiler Presidential votes. When a third party strongly favors one side of the political spectrum or the other, but is small in comparison to the dominant party, then a third party vote is likely to have the opposite outcome and get the opposition President elected. This can be devastating if the elected President is completely opposed to the third party's platforms and initiatives. A Green party vote in 2016 was essentially a vote for 45 and his climate policy has been devastating. The best scenario for a third party in the US system is to exercise their voting power in Congress or at state and local level. AOC is a perfect example. But for President, a third party vote is best thought of as a pre-coalition vote. Who would your party likely combine with to form a national government. Vote for the leader of that party in advance and directly for preferred down ballot candidates. marionm , I hope I don't sound too pendantic. You're not pendantic...i'm being childish and not letting it go. For me the Problem lies in the flaud system and not in the third Party voters. It's just hard for me fathom, that a democracy has such a heck of a system. Just to put that out there. The American voting system violates almost all of the election principals of Germany.
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Post by LindaG23 on Aug 18, 2020 15:27:42 GMT -5
marionm No problem, one works within the system one has. As you may remember from our song contest, I am a huge fan of ranked choice voting.
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Post by lurleene on Aug 18, 2020 15:33:33 GMT -5
Or worse, it will have the opposite impact from what you would want it to have. I find it hard to believe that, say, the Bernie Bros who voted third party in 2016 wanted to see the changes that have taken place over 45's term in office. As long as we have to deal with the electoral college, protest voting is downright dangerous. A 3rd party vote is, essentially, a vote for 45. If that's what you want to do, you have that right, but don't do it thinking your ~purity is more important than the fate of the country. It's a big reason I was impressed with Bernie's speech as well. I'm sure he recognizes that the protest votes from his followers in 2016 likely had an impact on the election out of all proportion to their actual numbers, and he took pains to convince them not to go down that road again. Bernie's speech was important and may I say "classy", and hopefully bitter lessons from the 2016 outcome have been learned. I like Bernie but I have always found it narrow minded and selfish for a Democrat to protest vote for him. In our two party system, anything but supporting the official Democratic nominee is giving "T" and his Republicans the vote. Very true. Third parties in the US are not the same as in some other countries. So we have to deal with OUR system as it is and NOT that of some other country. We may not even like the way things are done in other countries. NZ is delaying their presidential election day. It is against our constitution here for the president to delay the election. Damn what DT may want to do. Thankfully he cannot legally do it. And a third party vote can really hurt in a close election here. And what you get with a protest vote may not be what you wanted or what is good for the country.
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Post by marionm on Aug 18, 2020 15:34:08 GMT -5
marionm No problem, one works within the system one has. As you may remember from our song contest, I am a huge fan of ranked choice voting. Maybe this is my way of coping with the state of the world. Sometimes it's just beyond frustrating and unbearable.
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