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Post by LinkinBert on Feb 15, 2018 14:38:59 GMT -5
LinkinBert What do those artists post on social media then, to keep so active? Agree with you about marketing in the industry, but it seems like there's no good way to draw the line between professional necessity and just giving in to less reasonable demands. And it still befuddles me how being a fan of a singer is less and less about their actual music nowadays. Ha. I swear my spirit animal is a cranky old lady. I don't mean to drag out this topic for longer. Feel free to ignore me. I might just be fed up with all the drama and crap I see on Twitter. Have admittedly little tolerance for it... A good example with my other fave is this morning he tweeted a simple "How is everyone feeling today?" and liked a bunch of the responses and replied words of encouragement to a few of the fans before continuing on with his day. There's was also some silly commentary on the sport of curling lol. May not be anything newsworthy career wise but it does keep the engagement going.
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Post by LinkinBert on Feb 15, 2018 14:25:14 GMT -5
I find the little on-going publicity splash to be an interesting if not ironic commentary on the social media discussion going on in yesterday’s thread. ..and the whole thing wasn’t even planned , it started as a response to a fan’s plea to have a Twitter party...unless the plea was planted which I highly doubt... Yes today's news cycle does show the benefits of showing some activity on social media
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Post by LinkinBert on Feb 15, 2018 12:11:02 GMT -5
I find social media horrifying 90% of the time, so all my respect to anyone who can manage it while being famous. It seems weird to me just how important Twitter and whatnot are thought to be. Even if he uses it more for professional reasons, how much will that really help? He can't always have new updates to give about his music, and fans have a huge range of things they want from him when personal things are concerned. He's a singer. His music should be what keeps old fans and gains new ones. I want him to have a private life that's actually private and kept far away from fandom and all of its negative aspects. Unfortunately with the current atmosphere of the music industry music alone is not good enough to gain and retain fans anymore. Being active on SM doesn't mean a private life is no longer private. There's plenty of popular musicians very active on social media that don't mention a thing about their private life. Even with my favorite artists that I've followed extensively for 15+ years I know next to nothing about their private life. Being active on social media does not automatically mean a loss of private life. It's all an integral part of the digital marketing aspect of the industry.
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Post by LinkinBert on Feb 14, 2018 21:54:48 GMT -5
I am old as the hills, I guess. In my impressionable teen fan years we had no social media. No twitter, facebook, instagram, snapchat. And no TMZ, cable celebrity networks. I pored over the teen magazines at the magazine rack in the local grocery store, looking for anything on Paul McCartney. We got very little to no news about our stars' personal life, daily activities, future plans, etc. Perhaps, due to that, I have no expectations for Adam to keep his fandom informed of anything other than gigs and release of recordings. While I am on Adamtopia multiple times a day, and have a Google alert for "Adam Lambert" (irritating with the Aussie Olympian Lambert at the moment), I expect that Adam does NOT return the favor and think about his fans and his duties to them multiple times a day. He is way too busy living his life as an artist and as a private person. Some fans seem to think he has an obligation to communicate with his fans and maintain a strong social media presence. That it is required of a successful pop star these days. Is that true? Do other pop stars do that? Bieber? Shawn Mendes? Ed Sheeran? Sam Smith? I am curious what the standard is these days. yes social media engagement is very important in this age of technology. With other artists I follow it's not that uncommon for the artist to constantly be liking and replying to fan tweets or comments on FB/IG, not just in little spurts of "twitter parties" every once and a while. All it takes is five minutes of interaction a couple times a day. Hate to once again bring it back to Linkin Park, but Mike Shinoda is incredibly good at this to the point he could teach a master class to other musicians on social media engagement. Their bassist has also recently started weekly podcast and the band has a long standing youtube video series for fans to get behind the scenes looks in their day to day life, both while on tour and otherwise. Plenty of ways Adam could potentially be growing his fanbase.
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Post by LinkinBert on Feb 14, 2018 21:23:21 GMT -5
Whether Adam likes it or not, keeping fans engaged is a requirement of his career. He's gifted at a good many things, but fan engagement is not his strong suit. Most fans aren't hardcore in the way the fans here are, they just aren't. It takes effort beyond his performances to keep more casual fans interested - and he needs those casual fans. Social media could be a tool, but Adam's typical forays into Twitter and Instagram aren't compelling to anyone who isn't a Glambert to the core. If he has new management, I hope they focus some effort into his social media presence, because IMO his online personality demonstrates very little of what his fans find so beguiling about him. But at this point, I'm not seeing any evidence that material changes are in store. However, I'm hanging in there and continue to live in hope that one of these days, he'll be announcing something that the entire fandom can get excited about. Yes he definitely needs an improvement in his social media presence. He's terrible at it compared to most other artists, and can easily lose the more casual fans because this. Being more engaging online would be huge for retaining those fans. I don't expect him to do weekly Twitter Parties and IG Livestreams like other artists I follow do but a little more effort would be nice.
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Post by LinkinBert on Feb 14, 2018 15:14:43 GMT -5
I also just don't think JCS would have helped Adma clarify his brand which is already a bit scattered. QAL is enough classic rock for him to be associated with. JCS has been done multiple times and is it really relevant to a 25 year old? It is from 1970, almost 50 years ago -- it seems ancient to me because it is. It seems his new album is contemporary pop music (at least by the collaborators) and some genre fusion (based on Adam's comments and the bits he's dropped here and there). So I think a teaser track of two would do him more good. And maybe a new song on Idol? JMHO. I'm younger than Adam as far as age range goes and yeah I agree JCS is a bit played out at this point. I'd only be for it because Adam always said he wanted to play Judas. Rather see him do some fresh "genre is dead" pop fusion than even more classic rock vibe productions.
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Post by LinkinBert on Feb 14, 2018 13:05:47 GMT -5
I feel like some people are making way too big a deal of Brian's wording in his praise for Robbie. I would have never thought to compare him to Adam (or even Freddie) after reading what Brian said. It was only until after others said it that it even crossed my mind. Robbie is an incredible entertainer. So is Adam. It's not that deep.
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Post by LinkinBert on Feb 14, 2018 10:32:34 GMT -5
Not a dog person either, so what was wrong with how he held the leash? Would seem to me that having the dog on a leash and under control is much better than letting it run off leash. Having the dog on the leash is fine 👍. It was just, that it was almost hanging on the ground, which shows me, that he hasn’t that much experience in walking a dog. It can hinder the dog when walking. And that was only my impression, I could be completely overanalysing a really short moment... 😉 could easily be that he had been using his second hand to hold up the slack, but it was loose at that moment because he was obviously using his other hand to take video at the time
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Post by LinkinBert on Feb 14, 2018 9:35:52 GMT -5
There IS a big WBR problem but it's not what you are thinking. I fully believe their 'reorganization" had thrown projects and budgets for those projects into a standstill. I first suspected when EchoSmith had to delay their album. Interesting. At least these changes don't seem to be effecting my Linkin Park boys with Mike Shinoda being able to release his solo EP under WBR so quickly and as a complete surprise to the fanbase. Of course that was never a big budget project to begin with so probably irrelevant.
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Post by LinkinBert on Feb 8, 2018 11:39:19 GMT -5
streaming numbers do help somewhat, but from what I learned yesterday while bigger numbers on spotify are nice it doesn't mean much to promoters and agents. This is only in regards to those that decide who to book for shows and which locations artists go to on tour so maybe it means something more in other parts of the industry? I'm sure there's someone else on here more familiar with that area. From what I have observed, GT became a hit only because of its streaming numbers. While it certainly can't hurt to stream and share, it is probably way more effective if the song makes it on various official playlists for maximum exposure. yes from the information I've been given a spot on an official playlist holds more weight than pure streaming.
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