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Post by staytuned on Jul 18, 2012 14:50:42 GMT -5
^ BBC1 has spun NCOE two times according to this comparemyradio.com/artists/Adam_LambertCapital is decreasing its plays from 141 (07/09) to 111 today and all its sister stations follow the lead. Gaydio, on the other hand, has increased from 37 (07/09) to 62, and Cool FM has increased too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2012 14:51:55 GMT -5
^ BBC1 has spun NCOE two times according to this comparemyradio.com/artists/Adam_LambertCapital is decreasing its plays from 141 (07/09) to 111 today and all its sister stations follow the lead. Gaydio, on the other hand, has increased from 37 (07/09) to 62, and Cool FM has increased too. Those were just the 2 countdowns that got the spins, the mid week and the actual chart. That's it. :( |
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Post by staytuned on Jul 18, 2012 14:57:07 GMT -5
^ BBC1 has spun NCOE two times according to this comparemyradio.com/artists/Adam_LambertCapital is decreasing its plays from 141 (07/09) to 111 today and all its sister stations follow the lead. Gaydio, on the other hand, has increased from 37 (07/09) to 62, and Cool FM has increased too. Those were just the 2 countdowns that got the spins, the mid week and the actual chart. That's it. :( oh( |
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Post by staytuned on Jul 18, 2012 15:03:49 GMT -5
Sometimes I think that they should have done the Rihanna style with Adam, I mean back-to-back albums without a gap or with a smaller one to cement his success. It would have been harder but surer.
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Post by maddie509 on Jul 18, 2012 15:49:40 GMT -5
Apparently the HMV Digital sales are a very tiny portion of overall digital sales? #1 on their chart & #52 overall. Wow. Is this more like Amazon digital sales? Why such a huge spread?
Hope this isn't a dumb question. ??? I believe that HMV had it on sale for 4.99 last week. The HMVdigital top albums and top singles charts are updated weekly, and based on sales from the previous week. Last week they had 4.99 sale on TSP which is why we're seeing its charting at #1 right now, and it sure did help with the debut week sales, albeit a drop in the bucket. As of right now, the TSP HMV exclusive slipcase charts at #13 on regular HMV UK Best Sellers. |
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Post by fooffyschmoofer on Jul 18, 2012 16:27:55 GMT -5
So did the Queen promo really influence much of anything? I mean, yes, the single and album debuted higher than FYE but that was with an organized global buying campaign and American fans also buying out stock in HMV stores. As soon as the buying campaign stopped, sales started plummeting. Radio 1 seems to want no part of Adam and I think that has everything to do with both singles flopping in the US. Radio 1 won't follow what's big or not elsewhere. They definitely march to the beat of their own drum. Which is partly why they are so infuriating. Because Radio 1 is a public service broadcaster, it's the requirement of their licence that their listening audience is 15 - 29 years old. When they are picking songs to playlist, they have to decide if the UK listening public in that age range will think it's good. And they are eternally trying to get the average age of their audience down. It always tends to go over a bit towards 30 - 33yrs. If it goes too far, they get in trouble. That's their bottom line - not commercial decisions. BTIKM was a million to one long-shot on Radio 1. NCOE had a slightly better chance, but if you look at the sort of dance songs that they have on their playlist - I'm thinking of that Knife Play one in particular ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT3NsAbsJHY) but also things like Netsky ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IzVZj4BNms) - you can't play Dr Luke production after those songs without looking outdated. Cuckoo and Trespassing have such a better chance. Radio 1 goes for personality and quirky. It won't matter if they aren't big hits elsewhere. But Radio 1 does have a tendency to want to discover people first. If they go for Cuckoo or Trespassing, they'll be supporting Adam just as much as the song, which is where BTIKM/NCOE count against him because they don't fit their target demographic. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2012 16:36:35 GMT -5
 I even notice it here, in the difference between Luke & Bonnie/Ollie and Benny. Bonnie, Ollie, & Bennie sound current. Luke's sound like a remix.
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Post by lambo on Jul 18, 2012 17:00:13 GMT -5
you can't play Dr Luke production after those songs without looking outdated. It's not Dr. Luke production, Katy Perry, Marina & The Diamonds, Jessie J are just a few who have been doing really well in the UK lately with Dr. Luke produced tracks. It's just not that catchy or energetic compared to the others and just ends up sounding really lacking. |
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Post by bullsfan on Jul 18, 2012 17:04:33 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why they went with NCOE in the UK. The song was clearly struggling in the US and Australia/NZ. Shouldn't that have been a red flag that it was going to have trouble in the UK? And especially when British media had picked Cuckoo and Trespassing as stand-out singles over and over. Quick question, Shoshanna made it sound like Adam would be back in the UK fairly soon, I am guessing to promote single #2. But, what more promo could he possibly do there at this point? How do you get Radio to spin a new single so quickly when the first one didn't take off? eta--I found Adam's tweet about requesting NCOE non-stop to be a little strange. Kind of like he is coming in late to the party. I love Adam, but I have, personally, no energy or enthusiasm left for this song. And I tried hard. Chicago has basically dropped it (WTMX never even played it---U-Mix-It doesn't count). Maybe a month or two ago I would have been all over it, but not now. Is he that far removed from what has been happening with US radio, or has RCA simply said there will be no third single in the US? These are just my feelings, I don't expect a lot of people to agree  |
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Post by sage on Jul 18, 2012 17:08:19 GMT -5
So did the Queen promo really influence much of anything? I mean, yes, the single and album debuted higher than FYE but that was with an organized global buying campaign and American fans also buying out stock in HMV stores. As soon as the buying campaign stopped, sales started plummeting. Radio 1 seems to want no part of Adam and I think that has everything to do with both singles flopping in the US. Radio 1 won't follow what's big or not elsewhere. They definitely march to the beat of their own drum. Which is partly why they are so infuriating. Because Radio 1 is a public service broadcaster, it's the requirement of their licence that their listening audience is 15 - 29 years old. When they are picking songs to playlist, they have to decide if the UK listening public in that age range will think it's good. And they are eternally trying to get the average age of their audience down. It always tends to go over a bit towards 30 - 33yrs. If it goes too far, they get in trouble. That's their bottom line - not commercial decisions. BTIKM was a million to one long-shot on Radio 1. NCOE had a slightly better chance, but if you look at the sort of dance songs that they have on their playlist - I'm thinking of that Knife Play one in particular ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT3NsAbsJHY) but also things like Netsky ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IzVZj4BNms) - you can't play Dr Luke production after those songs without looking outdated. Cuckoo and Trespassing have such a better chance. Radio 1 goes for personality and quirky. It won't matter if they aren't big hits elsewhere. But Radio 1 does have a tendency to want to discover people first. If they go for Cuckoo or Trespassing, they'll be supporting Adam just as much as the song, which is where BTIKM/NCOE count against him because they don't fit their target demographic. Then how did Bruno Mars get so big in the UK? Was he played on Radio2? I still can't get past all of those music critics telling the label EXACTLY, what to release in the UK that stood the best chance to be a hit, and RCA completely ignored them and went with a song that was not being supported in the US. I've pretty much come to the conclusion that RCA is trying to make Adam into something he isn't, to conform and to make him palatable to the public. The same people who are indifferent to him at best. They're trying to appeal to an audience that, by all accounts, want nothing to do with Adam and probably never will. In turn, they are turning their backs on the portion of the public who loved everything different and unique about Adam and who have been completely deflated of any enthusiasm towards his singles thus far. Why? Because both of his singles are devoid of his personality. They're not playful, they're not rebellious, they have absolutely no sass to them. In essence, they have nothing about Adam in them. That's what's lacking and that's why the general public, not just a good number of fans, are not connecting with this song. |
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