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Post by crazylady on Mar 24, 2011 20:59:09 GMT -5
Adam's still on Twitter. He just started following:
Josh_Abraham Josh Abraham
Pulse Recording / Check Your Pulse Publishing
ETA: Adam now has 949,508 followers - only 492 more and he will hit 950,000!!
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Post by Q3 on Mar 24, 2011 21:13:44 GMT -5
A question for Q3. Adam seems to be having a lot of control over who he's writing with for the album. Would RCA have given him carte blanche or does he have a specific budget for that? What happens to albums that aren't accepted, does that budget impact the album that does get released? I'm thinking about the rumors that other people might have submitted work that wasn't accepted by the label. Do they eat those costs when they get sent back to the drawing board? From what I hear -- Adam has a high level of creative control over this album but is working with his RCA A&R team. Now that he is successful, and has proven he has good judgment, he can call all the shots about who he works with. But, he also can access the absolute best talent out there and does not need to follow the "Idol pre-arranged recording sessions with the usual suspects model." The way it usually works, the artist gets a contractual amount for a recording budget and 50% of their advance when the label options an album. Usually artists record about 30 demos and pick the final recording tracks (maybe 15 to 20 tracks) working with their label -- this is a way to make sure the work is accepted. After the recordings are finished The label has the right to accept the work or not. The contract requires the artist to deliver material that the label accepts or they will not get the rest of their advance. Very often, the label will not accept the first submission and sends the artist back to work on more songs, work with other producers, etc. This apparently happened to both Cook and Kelly on their upcoming albums. The label can choose to increase the recording budget, but the expenses will be added to the project and get covered before the artist collects royalties -- or some similar cost overrun providion. The major labels are getting very risk adverse because the business is really struggling. From what I can deduce about Adam --- --- he will not go over budget but spend every dollar and penny they gave him. --- he earned creative control but will not work unilaterally. --- he will get songwriting credit on all or almost all songs on Adam #2. --- he will get he album out in the early Fall on schedule. |
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Post by lynne on Mar 24, 2011 21:18:42 GMT -5
Hey guys, This is about my son, but I’m posting it because it pertains to what is happening in the music industry. My son is the drummer in the indie-rock band The Dodos. Here is something that was written about them in the LA Times blog, Pop&Hiss- "The Dodos have landed. The latest from the Bay Area pop act, which crafts hooks with a worldy spin, has been drawing rave reviews. "No Color" is an album that also features a high-profile guest spot in Neko Case, and plenty of good things were overheard about the band at the recent South by Southwest festival in Austin, Texas. The album cracks the top 100, landing at No. 70 after selling 7,000 copies. While nothing should be taken away from the Dodos' success, it can't help but illustrate the industry's overall decline in sales. At 7,000 copies, it's as if a little more than half of SXSW's paid registrants of 13,000 bought one. " So, it’s great for a little indie band to sell 7,000 albums in a week! Yay! (Will take most of the year to quadruple that number…maybe somewhat more if lucky) But, really, sell 7000 and you chart at #70??? Well, the Pop&Hiss comments say it all. Also, mixed blessing, this is great publicity for them, but those darned fussy indie fans may now think they are too successful, too “mainstream.” peace&love Such exciting news! Congratulations to the Dodos (and to you!). |
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Post by evergreen on Mar 24, 2011 21:20:41 GMT -5
When can we expect sales numbers for GNL?
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Post by Q3 on Mar 24, 2011 21:25:03 GMT -5
Reminds me, my son was SO proud of himself for tracking down a copy here--he said he couldn't find ANY copies at Walmart, Target, OR the BN closest to us, that he finally called Best Buy, they had 10 copies, he asked them to hold one, went to pick it up Tues. and told him it was a good thing he'd reserved it, because they sold all the rest! Good news! (Except why not at other stores I wonder?) Honestly, I think he wanted me to realize he'd gone to EXTREME efforts to get this for me--and then he couldn't wait to give it to me--and what can I say? BEAUCOUP POINTS for my sometimes surly, but basically sweet kid! Yay for your son! I'm thinking that many stores only ordered a handful (like 2-4) and some didn't order any -- which makes sense given what Q3 said about how many FYE's are selling each week. It does make me feel a bit guilty about buying the CD/DVD from B&N as well as AO as wonderstruck pointed out the other day as I would have rather left it for casual fans who wouldn't have otherwise known about it (didn't take the last one though). I'd set aside a viewing time with my DH though, and the AO version wasn't delivered on time. Gonna gift my extra copy as I'm not a collector. (I even wrote notes on my Adam calender!  blasphemy!) Anyway, I LOVED it, on a large TV, head+shoulder shots were fine instead of closeups, editing worked for me in context (loved the jumpy IIHY), was seduced by the light and silent film quality combined with the audio of the Soaked shooting (and I'm not really a soaked fan). DH enjoyed it too, though he pointed out how much better Adam sounded live than any recording (he saw GN with me). Today he was like "I've had Adam in my head all day..." and I was like "Oh? Tell me more...."  I can confirm that EVERY US Walmart and Target with a CD department, and every Best Buy, Hot Topic and Barnes & Nobel received GN Live DVDs. If there are really not DVDs in a store, they sold out. And there are reports coming in from everywhere of SOLD OUT stores. This is a good thing. It means that people are buying the disk. However, my experience is the the sold out store issue becomes magnified online -- because fans report it. Also, my local Target got restocked today with 12 GN Live discs. ETA: RCA Ed might post numbers for week 1 of GN Live Wednesday March 30. There is a chance the numbers will be out on Tuesday March 29. From what I am hearing from retailers, unless AO.com sold a ton, it will be a respectable but not gigantic number. BUT since it will chart as a Music DVD it will have a nice chart position. |
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Post by kittykay on Mar 24, 2011 21:29:22 GMT -5
Yay for your son! I'm thinking that many stores only ordered a handful (like 2-4) and some didn't order any -- which makes sense given what Q3 said about how many FYE's are selling each week. It does make me feel a bit guilty about buying the CD/DVD from B&N as well as AO as wonderstruck pointed out the other day as I would have rather left it for casual fans who wouldn't have otherwise known about it (didn't take the last one though). I'd set aside a viewing time with my DH though, and the AO version wasn't delivered on time. Gonna gift my extra copy as I'm not a collector. (I even wrote notes on my Adam calender! blasphemy!) Anyway, I LOVED it, on a large TV, head+shoulder shots were fine instead of closeups, editing worked for me in context (loved the jumpy IIHY), was seduced by the light and silent film quality combined with the audio of the Soaked shooting (and I'm not really a soaked fan). DH enjoyed it too, though he pointed out how much better Adam sounded live than any recording (he saw GN with me). Today he was like "I've had Adam in my head all day..." and I was like "Oh? Tell me more...." I can confirm that EVERY US Walmart and Target with a CD department, and every Best Buy, Hot Topic and Barnes & Nobel received GN Live DVDs. If there are really not DVDs in a store, they sold out. And there are reports coming in from everywhere of SOLD OUT stores. This is a good thing. It means that people are buying the disk. However, my experience is the the sold out store issue becomes magnified online -- because fans report it. Also, my local Target got restocked today with 12 GN Live discs. Does this mean they will place a larger order for Adam #2? How large of a gamble was it to distribute DNL to the retailers? |
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Post by crazylady on Mar 24, 2011 21:30:25 GMT -5
In my little neck of the woods 50 miles north of Houston (where you mostly hear country music), Best Buy only had 1 GNT Live CD/DVD left after I bought mine and it was easy to find. It wasn't with FYE; it was on an end cap. I'm going to check out my Target and Walmart this weekend.
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Post by marie23 on Mar 24, 2011 21:38:33 GMT -5
Yay for your son! I'm thinking that many stores only ordered a handful (like 2-4) and some didn't order any -- which makes sense given what Q3 said about how many FYE's are selling each week. It does make me feel a bit guilty about buying the CD/DVD from B&N as well as AO as wonderstruck pointed out the other day as I would have rather left it for casual fans who wouldn't have otherwise known about it (didn't take the last one though). I'd set aside a viewing time with my DH though, and the AO version wasn't delivered on time. Gonna gift my extra copy as I'm not a collector. (I even wrote notes on my Adam calender! blasphemy!) Anyway, I LOVED it, on a large TV, head+shoulder shots were fine instead of closeups, editing worked for me in context (loved the jumpy IIHY), was seduced by the light and silent film quality combined with the audio of the Soaked shooting (and I'm not really a soaked fan). DH enjoyed it too, though he pointed out how much better Adam sounded live than any recording (he saw GN with me). Today he was like "I've had Adam in my head all day..." and I was like "Oh? Tell me more...." I can confirm that EVERY US Walmart and Target with a CD department, and every Best Buy, Hot Topic and Barnes & Nobel received GN Live DVDs. If there are really not DVDs in a store, they sold out. And there are reports coming in from everywhere of SOLD OUT stores. This is a good thing. It means that people are buying the disk. However, my experience is the the sold out store issue becomes magnified online -- because fans report it. Also, my local Target got restocked today with 12 GN Live discs. ETA: RCA Ed might post numbers for week 1 of GN Live Wednesday March 30. There is a chance the numbers will be out on Tuesday March 29. From what I am hearing from retailers, unless AO.com sold a ton, it will be a respectable but not gigantic number. BUT since it will chart as a Music DVD it will have a nice chart position. respectable as in what? 10-20thousand? What would you consider respectable? |
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Post by Q3 on Mar 24, 2011 21:38:47 GMT -5
By now RCA has a lot of sales history on Adam product and the probably can forecast sales OK. The part they keep missing is that committed Adam fans have an unusual buying pattern -- they buy 5, 6, 7, 12, +++ copies of the same product. 2,000 fans buying 4 copies each is 8,000 copies and for a DVD that is a lot of sales -- and there are easily 2,000 committed Adam fans.
I am still surprised about the broad retail distribution of this DVD. A DVD for a one-album, one-tour in smaller venues, is almost unheard of. Distributing it broadly to retail in the US and at least 20 other countries is really rare.
IMO it was a wise choice and I am certain that RCA "knew" they could at least break even on the retail distribution -- so low risk.
ETA: Anything over 10K for a DVD in the US will be great. I think it will do better but I do not know how many were shipped.
It was shipped to over 8K locations in the US. So assuming that there were 100K produced for the US -- 10K for AO.com, 50K in stores, 40K in warehouses (retailers and RCA). We know that AO.com sold over 6.7K based on RCA Ed's presale info. Amazon and iTunes will generate another 1K. And another 8K (1 per store) at retail puts it at around 16K. That would be a very good number for a DVD. I am hoping for 10K week one in the US. I will dance for anything more.
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Post by rad1109 on Mar 24, 2011 21:43:51 GMT -5
By now RCA has a lot of sales history on Adam product and the probably can forecast sales OK. The part they keep missing is that committed Adam fans have an unusual buying pattern -- they buy 5, 6, 7, 12, +++ copies of the same product. 2,000 fans buying 4 copies each is 8,000 copies and for a DVD that is a lot of sales -- and there are easily 2,000 committed Adam fans. I am still surprised about the broad retail distribution of this DVD. A DVD for a one-album, one-tour in smaller venues, is almost unheard of. Distributing it broadly to retail in the US and at least 20 other countries is really rare. IMO it was a wise choice and I am certain that RCA "knew" they could at least break even on the retail distribution -- so low risk. Approx how many sold are considered break even? |
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