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Post by maddie509 on Jul 31, 2012 0:36:26 GMT -5
Well, RCA kind of has a history of just throwing a third single out there, sometimes without an official add date even, just, it would seem, to appease the artist and the fans. But, I am still hoping that this is not the case with Adam and that they do actually have some kind of plan. RCA screwed up on the singles selection and some serious promo timing, in other words, they have NOT done a good job so far, but that does NOT mean they did not support the first 2 singles. True, they did not seem to have spent enough to push those 2 songs, but there're gazillions of new songs coming out each year supported by major or indie labels, and only a handful of them would become hits. Often times, putting aside the politics & $$$, it really comes down to the songs. Now, in retrospect, I'm glad RCA hasn't put all behind the first 2 singles, then Adam would be short or out of budget on his upcoming singles. RCA has no reason whatsoever to work against Adam and to see Trespassing Project fail, they are running a business after all and according to that Rolling Stone Billboard interview, I believe they see him as a long term investment, still in a developmental phase. Just my 2 cents.  |
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Post by JazzRocks on Jul 31, 2012 7:15:04 GMT -5
I want to be optimistic and I am (kinda) but didn't RCA say the same thing about KA? That they supported him and were treating him like a new artist?
Oh well, all of this has been said before over & over. We'll just have to wait & see. I'm just happy there will be a 3rd single. QUESTION: Since iTunes position is critical apparently how do we help Cuckoo (or whichever one it is) get to top 10 upon release? Since we've all bought the album (numerous times LOL) it won't count if we buy the single will it?
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Post by bullsfan on Jul 31, 2012 7:32:36 GMT -5
There is really nothing much we can do in terms of iTunes placement. And even if we could, Adam's fanbase is simply not big enough to get the song top 10 on it's own; plus as we saw with NCOE in the UK it takes a whole lot more than fanbase buying (and buying) to make an impact. What the new single will need is major promo and support from Z100 (for a start).
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Post by crazyoldgal on Jul 31, 2012 8:32:34 GMT -5
Just curious
WE keep requesting but has anyone heard NCOE on Q102 at the countadown at 10@10????
I haven't. Do we keep requesting?
I'm w you Jazzrocks...Olympians here we come. voting obsession/requesting all over again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 8:54:13 GMT -5
I am going to take issue with the opinion that RCA didn't support the first 2 singles. I think they did. Their timing was screwed up and they chose the wrong songs, but all the radio stations Adam went to and the shows he played are due to RCA supporting the single. NCOE just wasn't catching on with the radio public. Three major areas gave it a chance, NYC (WKTU and WPLJ), Boston, and Philly. Could they have done more? Maybe. Perhaps they thought the song had an "in" due to Bruno and they were a bit delusional because of that.
Why would they support single #3? Maybe they have realized they screwed up with single choices. Maybe they don't want an album that made history to slide away so fast. Maybe they don't want to look like idiots for choosing the wrong songs off a critically acclaimed album!! I mean there have to be people within the industry thinking "What the hell, RCA?"
(If you are looking for someone who did not have his single supported, look no further than Kris Allen. Poor guy. I actually feel sory for him. The most promo he got was from Adam!)
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Post by tigerlily on Jul 31, 2012 9:36:22 GMT -5
I am going to take issue with the opinion that RCA didn't support the first 2 singles. I think they did. Their timing was screwed up and they chose the wrong songs, but all the radio stations Adam went to and the shows he played are due to RCA supporting the single. NCOE just wasn't catching on with the radio public. Three major areas gave it a chance, NYC (WKTU and WPLJ), Boston, and Philly. Could they have done more? Maybe. Perhaps they thought the song had an "in" due to Bruno and they were a bit delusional because of that. Why would they support single #3? Maybe they have realized they screwed up with single choices. Maybe they don't want an album that made history to slide away so fast. Maybe they don't want to look like idiots for choosing the wrong songs off a critically acclaimed album!! I mean there have to be people within the industry thinking "What the hell, RCA?" (If you are looking for someone who did not have his single supported, look no further than Kris Allen. Poor guy. I actually feel sory for him. The most promo he got was from Adam!) ITA, RCA did support the first two single in the best way that they know how to do. RCA is not the best at getting radio play for their artists. The timing was effed up and IMO, everyone involved waited too long to get it together and get a new single and album out to the general public. The problem with KA was the fact that his album and new single sold so poorly. With no international sales to fall back on, RCA cut his promo when they started getting the early numbers for pre sales. I do believe NAL has already been dropped from the label. An artist has to bring something...anything to the table! They have to either have singles or albums that sell well, or some international interest, or a celebrity status that keeps their name and image in the public. An artist has to give the label something to work with and KA didn't do that. |
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Post by JazzRocks on Jul 31, 2012 10:12:55 GMT -5
I am going to take issue with the opinion that RCA didn't support the first 2 singles. I think they did. Their timing was screwed up and they chose the wrong songs, but all the radio stations Adam went to and the shows he played are due to RCA supporting the single. NCOE just wasn't catching on with the radio public. Three major areas gave it a chance, NYC (WKTU and WPLJ), Boston, and Philly. Could they have done more? Maybe. Perhaps they thought the song had an "in" due to Bruno and they were a bit delusional because of that. Why would they support single #3? Maybe they have realized they screwed up with single choices. Maybe they don't want an album that made history to slide away so fast. Maybe they don't want to look like idiots for choosing the wrong songs off a critically acclaimed album!! I mean there have to be people within the industry thinking "What the hell, RCA?" (If you are looking for someone who did not have his single supported, look no further than Kris Allen. Poor guy. I actually feel sory for him. The most promo he got was from Adam!) BUT - didn't those stations mostly play NCOE in none-prime hours? I don't see how it can catch on with the public if the public doesn't actually hear the song. I listen to Q and I NEVER heard it during the day. The public has to hear a song multiple times before they get on board. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 10:25:48 GMT -5
I am going to take issue with the opinion that RCA didn't support the first 2 singles. I think they did. Their timing was screwed up and they chose the wrong songs, but all the radio stations Adam went to and the shows he played are due to RCA supporting the single. NCOE just wasn't catching on with the radio public. Three major areas gave it a chance, NYC (WKTU and WPLJ), Boston, and Philly. Could they have done more? Maybe. Perhaps they thought the song had an "in" due to Bruno and they were a bit delusional because of that. Why would they support single #3? Maybe they have realized they screwed up with single choices. Maybe they don't want an album that made history to slide away so fast. Maybe they don't want to look like idiots for choosing the wrong songs off a critically acclaimed album!! I mean there have to be people within the industry thinking "What the hell, RCA?" (If you are looking for someone who did not have his single supported, look no further than Kris Allen. Poor guy. I actually feel sory for him. The most promo he got was from Adam!) BUT - didn't those stations mostly play NCOE in none-prime hours? I don't see how it can catch on with the public if the public doesn't actually hear the song. I listen to Q and I NEVER heard it during the day. The public has to hear a song multiple times before they get on board. No. They all played prime hours. None had it in high rotation though. And Philly moved that song around to every hour imaginable to try and find an audience for it!! |
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Post by crazyoldgal on Jul 31, 2012 10:42:43 GMT -5
BUT - didn't those stations mostly play NCOE in none-prime hours? I don't see how it can catch on with the public if the public doesn't actually hear the song. I listen to Q and I NEVER heard it during the day. The public has to hear a song multiple times before they get on board. No. They all played prime hours. None had it in high rotation though. And Philly moved that song around to every hour imaginable to try and find an audience for it!! NO, no, no.. so sorry... but .Q102 did NOT try to play NCOE different hours. THey ONLY played it a few times during the day ONCE the song was already dead. and when we voted like mad to get it played on the countdowns....never in rotation WIll I get mad now, no because they played it unlike other stations |
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Post by JazzRocks on Jul 31, 2012 10:45:54 GMT -5
Ok I bow to you myspenser since I'm sure you monitored those stations. I just know I listened to Q102, B104 (during the BTIKM era) and KRZ Wilkes Barre and I heard it ONCE on KRZ during the day. But I wasn't listening all day every day so my perception is skewed.
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