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Post by mariep on Apr 2, 2011 23:30:28 GMT -5
Oh maine fixed that pic & took out the intrusive hand. Much better!  |
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Post by NoAngel on Apr 2, 2011 23:32:42 GMT -5
Oh maine fixed that pic & took out the intrusive hand. Much better! Yes! Much better! TY, Maine!  |
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Post by glamnana on Apr 2, 2011 23:33:45 GMT -5
Oh maine fixed that pic & took out the intrusive hand. Much better! Ooooo, much betterer. Thanx maine. |
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Post by aloha on Apr 2, 2011 23:34:26 GMT -5
Oh maine fixed that pic & took out the intrusive hand. Much better! Much, much better.  |
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Post by Q3 on Apr 2, 2011 23:35:30 GMT -5
I will be happy is Adam has a huge single or two BUT almost all on my fav musicians and bands have really not been huge single artists. I want Adam to create an album that is important. Pink Floyd is are really good example. I love album #7 "Obscured by Clouds" (1972) Album #8 is one of the biggest selling albums of all time "Dark Side of the Moon" (1973) Albums #9 to #14 were big sellers -- #1 in many countries. But they really only have one hit single "Another Brick in the Wall (Part II)" (1980). In 1973 "Money" hit #10 in the US and #13 in AU but that is it. I know that we are supposed to be in the era of tracks and albums are DOA -- but I do not buy that. I think that it is still possible to create an important album. And that is what I want, an album that matters. The Pink Floyd albums you mentioned were #7-#14. This is Adam's 2nd album. I hope fans aren't expecting a Pink Floyd- Dark Side of the Moon at this stage of the game. Adam is just starting out and he is still very much in learning mode- especially when it comes to songwriting. I do believe he has incredible musical instincts and he will deliver an album that shows growth and is more personal to who he is as an artist. I hope that fans will remember it is a long process and they don't expect too much, too soon. Unlike you, I want some ready-made pop hits on this album. Album #2 is extremely important, especially for Idol contestants. Let's face it- Hit singles help sell albums for artists who haven't fully established themselves. Adam is a smart guy, he knows how important it is to have a couple of hit singles from each album. I'm betting he makes sure that he has some songs on this next album that are radio-ready. I never wrote anything about Adam putting out a DSTM quality album -- I used it as an example of how singles are not important. I also included the number of albums it took even one of the greatest bands ever to break thru to make just the point that a great album is rare. I do not think hit singles are that important -- but they seem to get a lot of focus in the Idol world. Financially, 1 million albums generates as much profit as 20 million tracks sold in the US if there are 4 singles promoted to US radio. Adam needs to sell over 700K units of Adam #2 to be a big success. If he gets a top 10 single and only sells 250K units of his album, it will not be good. RCA would be thrilled to have a 2P album with no hit single, and no radio promotion. That is how you generate huge profits. Not saying that Adam #2 will be 2P but just talking about the economics of the business. I think he will sell >700K of Adam #2. And he will almost certainly get a third album even if his sales are modest which I do not expect. |
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Post by ksha518 on Apr 2, 2011 23:38:06 GMT -5
Attention:  LOL. Um, why do I like this pic better than the fresh scrubbed one posted just above it? Sorry to repost *the hand* for those bothered by it. I find it funny -- could just tell it wasn't Sauli's hand, haha. Or Tommy's. ;D |
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Post by cassie on Apr 2, 2011 23:39:19 GMT -5
Sounds like P!nk's song with the vocals tweaked to make them lower. LOL. Would be fun to hear Adam really cover it, though  ITA and with melliemom also. That is not Adam. I agree. We know that Adam can change the sound of his voice, but the resonance and placement sound wrong for Adam. It doesn't have the right bright "ping" sound. It also doesn't have the warmth of Adam's vibrato. |
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Post by ksha518 on Apr 2, 2011 23:44:02 GMT -5
Well, WTF do I know, honestly, but I think the different opinions here reflect the puzzle Adam is trying to work out in his head, too. Big names or up-and-comers? Sure-fire hits or edgy alt music? Pop(ular) or eclectic? And how to make it all sound like Adam Lambert? Yikes. Given that Adam has said he wants to be a "rock stah" and everything he does seems to strive towards becoming big in the industry, I'd think he definitely wants to have radio hits on his next album. He did say he was "writing hits" with Tedder. Sounds like he's pretty determined. The success of WWFM paved the way for an easier path for his next singles, and the fact that he specifically cited WWFM-type songs tells me he wants radio success. At the same time, the collabs he's done so far seem to indicate he's looking to cut a new edge and not just go for same old same old. Somewhere along the way, I guess he'll find a way to balance it. As others have said, I trust his instincts, and I am VERY optimistic. I've been wondering about all of this for a while. I'm tired of Max Martin's stuff, but I appreciate that Adam wants some big hits on his album. But I'm ECSTATIC about the Nikka Costa collaboration!!! I've been hoping for that. Sia is good, too. But I love the idea of Adam writing and maybe improvising with Nikka Costa. Love that he's maybe dabbling in something more funky, bluesy or jazzy. I'm not sure I know what I'm talking about at all, but I LOVE that he's working with some out of the box people. I'm getting excited for the album...yay! |
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Apr 2, 2011 23:44:21 GMT -5
I will be happy is Adam has a huge single or two BUT almost all on my fav musicians and bands have really not been huge single artists. I want Adam to create an album that is important. Pink Floyd is are really good example. I love album #7 "Obscured by Clouds" (1972) Album #8 is one of the biggest selling albums of all time "Dark Side of the Moon" (1973) Albums #9 to #14 were big sellers -- #1 in many countries. But they really only have one hit single "Another Brick in the Wall (Part II)" (1980). In 1973 "Money" hit #10 in the US and #13 in AU but that is it. I know that we are supposed to be in the era of tracks and albums are DOA -- but I do not buy that. I think that it is still possible to create an important album. And that is what I want, an album that matters.And that is why you are administrator, seeing the big picture. Everyone on here wants Adam to succeed, including me, but success is a relative term when applied to someone with his talent. The fact that each week he is accepted more and more into the music establishment is huge. I root for him to have hit singles and videos in the Top 20, but I do not relish the thought of him collaborating with someone just to accomplish that, Snoop Dogg being an example of that thinking. It thrills the hell out of me to see the quality of the people he is choosing. Where the music for # 2 is going? Who knows, but it is difficult to diss songs by Keisha and Katy then expect Adam to do the same shallow things. I have no idea what the answer is because I've not had to worry about the business end of it, but he's figuring it out step by step and will probably be around for a long, long time. By the way, not that it is any more valid than anyone else's take, but I think he is very wise to live his life as he goes through all this. Having friends, family, and a boyfriend helps keep everything in perspective and at this stage of his career, that is not always an easy thing to do. On a scale of 1 to 10, I think Dr. Phil would give him at least a 9 for knowing what he wants and the rational way to achieve it.Hmm.... in response to the purple phrase above, I agree that a collab for the sake of a collab could come off very derivative and passe. However, I think that some collaborations are genius. I won't comment on Eminem as a person, but IMO "Love the Way You Lie" made a powerful song when combined with Rhianna. Uncomfortable, but powerful. And the knowledge of their backgrounds made it more so. That wasn't a just-for-the-hell of it collaboration. It made for a more-than-the-sum-of-its-parts song. THAT sort of collaboration (with whom I couldn't guess) is something I would be excited and intrigued to see. As for the teal phrase....[grin] I dislike Dr. Phil and pretty much eyeroll at anything he says, but I agree that Adam - despite all the craziness in his life - is doing a bang-up job keeping his work, family, and personal lives relatively balanced! Hellva better than I could in his position. Go bb!  |
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Post by kanadiebonttell on Apr 2, 2011 23:48:06 GMT -5
Well that Pink song most likely is not Adam, but you have to admit it is pretty good fake. Especially the beginning.
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