9.24.12 Adam News, Social Media Monday
Sept 24, 2012 14:05:54 GMT -5
Post by ksha518 on Sept 24, 2012 14:05:54 GMT -5
Melliemom, Slapdash LaRue, mys*&@^#r50, Q3, LindaG23, and bullsfan, thanks so much for all the comments on my Pop Goes The Camera post. I was hoping to provoke some discussion and get some ideas and thoughts from other people, and that is what happened. 
I should probably end the post here, but my verbosity is winning the battle with my restraint, haha. Will try to be reasonably brief but that usually means I won’t be, lol. You might wanna scroll.
Melliemom, for what it’s worth, I wasn’t really looking for definitive answers, particularly not about the AMAs. I lived through that experience at the time, including a week of nervous anxiety *PRE*-AMAs due to 1)Hicklin letter and 2)sneak peek at choreography.
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen all of the related interviews. I only brought up the AMAs as another example of something *apparently* uncharacteristic of Adam.
Slapdash, I really like your post and the way you put things together. Love and agree with everything you said about Adam as a performer, and I feel you’re right that his views on fame and fans have evolved. Also, thank you for calling the AMAs “the Zodiac show on national TV”. It put an image into my mind – or actually a dual image – of the final moment of the Zodiac performance of A Change is Gonna Come”, when Adam throws down the microphone and stomps off the stage in his feathery fierceness, AND Adam with his third finger raised at the end of the AMA perfornance, defiance on his face. I think those two moments came from a similar place. Very cool that you put those together for me.
Q3, mys*&@^#r, LindaG, and bullsfan, I really enjoyed all the comments and agree with much of what each of you said and the points you raised about Adam and fans, and celebrity. A few general comments. I’m sure Adam still has SOME cynicism in him but it’s much less than many people have, I think. I haven’t had a chance to watch the entire Glambert Project video but I did watch the beginning. I think I’m a little atypical in that I have trouble calling myself a Glambert, and I don’t know that I’m a good fan. I don’t have the trust part down yet. Confidence in Adam, in his astounding abilities, yes. Willingness to spend time and money to see him, yes. Apparent willingness to spend hours obsessing, yes. But trust? Not sure. The one time I had an opportunity to engage face to face with Adam, I didn’t (signing autographs after Wilkes Barre this year). And I think, actually, that my reluctance was about a discomfort with the whole idea of being a fan and what it means. And probably a lack of confidence in myself, too, which I am still struggling with in spite of inspiration from Adam. Mostly I don’t show that lack of confidence, but I still feel it. And I don’t have confidence that I wouldn’t be one of the few unfortunate people who receive a smackdown. But I have to say as well that watching just the first few minutes of that video made me feel really good. I find this whole fan thing confusing and I’m exhausting myself, lol.
I know the moment in my own mind when Adam’s relationship with his fans changed rather dramatically was, again (sorry for another mention!) post-AMAs. I know he said he thought he had blown his great opportunity with his performance and the fallout from it (and you could see that written on his face during the Letterman performance the next day), but he apparently was blown away himself by the loyalty and support of his fans at that challenging moment in time. What I remember of his tweets at that time was a couple of somewhat defensive but defiantly non-apologetic tweets, followed by the statement “Fans: I adore you”. I do feel his love affair with his fans, to whatever degree it exists (and any love affair has its ups and downs and limitations), started in that moment. He was so grateful, I think, for their unwavering love and support. What I was most grateful for at that time was Alison Iraheta’s tweet to Adam, which to me was the BEST. Something like “Oh mi hermano! I love your crazy amazing ass!” (sorry for probably butchering the Spanish).. And I was also grateful, blurred Adam/Tommy kiss moment notwithstanding, for the CBS Early Show and the opportunity to show anyone who tuned in to that that he was a STAR. OK, that was probably way too much about the AMAs again. But…pivotal moment. Delete if you must. Mea culpa. I’ll shut up now!
Haha...or not...ETA: Craazyforadam, really enjoyed your post as well. Agree so much that Adam has MANY avenues to shine. And I do often think that he has the potential to be an AMAZING force for good in the world. But then I'm a little aghast at the implications of that -- so much power in one man, lol. Not that he's there yet. Thinking about why I discovered Adam, late in season 8, from an online news mention on MSNBC. Headline something like "will Adam Lambert be the first gay American Idol winner?" I hadn't been watching the show but I clicked on that link BECAUSE, I think, of my children. I have 3 children, and 2 of them are gay. And when I saw that headline, I was thinking of them and thinking "how cool!" And man, was I upset when he lost...over it by the next week, though
I think I'll slink back to lurking now
I should probably end the post here, but my verbosity is winning the battle with my restraint, haha. Will try to be reasonably brief but that usually means I won’t be, lol. You might wanna scroll.
Melliemom, for what it’s worth, I wasn’t really looking for definitive answers, particularly not about the AMAs. I lived through that experience at the time, including a week of nervous anxiety *PRE*-AMAs due to 1)Hicklin letter and 2)sneak peek at choreography.
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen all of the related interviews. I only brought up the AMAs as another example of something *apparently* uncharacteristic of Adam. Slapdash, I really like your post and the way you put things together. Love and agree with everything you said about Adam as a performer, and I feel you’re right that his views on fame and fans have evolved. Also, thank you for calling the AMAs “the Zodiac show on national TV”. It put an image into my mind – or actually a dual image – of the final moment of the Zodiac performance of A Change is Gonna Come”, when Adam throws down the microphone and stomps off the stage in his feathery fierceness, AND Adam with his third finger raised at the end of the AMA perfornance, defiance on his face. I think those two moments came from a similar place. Very cool that you put those together for me.
Q3, mys*&@^#r, LindaG, and bullsfan, I really enjoyed all the comments and agree with much of what each of you said and the points you raised about Adam and fans, and celebrity. A few general comments. I’m sure Adam still has SOME cynicism in him but it’s much less than many people have, I think. I haven’t had a chance to watch the entire Glambert Project video but I did watch the beginning. I think I’m a little atypical in that I have trouble calling myself a Glambert, and I don’t know that I’m a good fan. I don’t have the trust part down yet. Confidence in Adam, in his astounding abilities, yes. Willingness to spend time and money to see him, yes. Apparent willingness to spend hours obsessing, yes. But trust? Not sure. The one time I had an opportunity to engage face to face with Adam, I didn’t (signing autographs after Wilkes Barre this year). And I think, actually, that my reluctance was about a discomfort with the whole idea of being a fan and what it means. And probably a lack of confidence in myself, too, which I am still struggling with in spite of inspiration from Adam. Mostly I don’t show that lack of confidence, but I still feel it. And I don’t have confidence that I wouldn’t be one of the few unfortunate people who receive a smackdown. But I have to say as well that watching just the first few minutes of that video made me feel really good. I find this whole fan thing confusing and I’m exhausting myself, lol.
I know the moment in my own mind when Adam’s relationship with his fans changed rather dramatically was, again (sorry for another mention!) post-AMAs. I know he said he thought he had blown his great opportunity with his performance and the fallout from it (and you could see that written on his face during the Letterman performance the next day), but he apparently was blown away himself by the loyalty and support of his fans at that challenging moment in time. What I remember of his tweets at that time was a couple of somewhat defensive but defiantly non-apologetic tweets, followed by the statement “Fans: I adore you”. I do feel his love affair with his fans, to whatever degree it exists (and any love affair has its ups and downs and limitations), started in that moment. He was so grateful, I think, for their unwavering love and support. What I was most grateful for at that time was Alison Iraheta’s tweet to Adam, which to me was the BEST. Something like “Oh mi hermano! I love your crazy amazing ass!” (sorry for probably butchering the Spanish).. And I was also grateful, blurred Adam/Tommy kiss moment notwithstanding, for the CBS Early Show and the opportunity to show anyone who tuned in to that that he was a STAR. OK, that was probably way too much about the AMAs again. But…pivotal moment. Delete if you must. Mea culpa. I’ll shut up now!
Haha...or not...ETA: Craazyforadam, really enjoyed your post as well. Agree so much that Adam has MANY avenues to shine. And I do often think that he has the potential to be an AMAZING force for good in the world. But then I'm a little aghast at the implications of that -- so much power in one man, lol. Not that he's there yet. Thinking about why I discovered Adam, late in season 8, from an online news mention on MSNBC. Headline something like "will Adam Lambert be the first gay American Idol winner?" I hadn't been watching the show but I clicked on that link BECAUSE, I think, of my children. I have 3 children, and 2 of them are gay. And when I saw that headline, I was thinking of them and thinking "how cool!" And man, was I upset when he lost...over it by the next week, though
I think I'll slink back to lurking now
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