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Post by butterknife on Dec 13, 2012 23:11:33 GMT -5
I do not believe you can judge the quality of Adam's live performance based upon YTs. The acoustic live recordings are better then the electric, but the recordings from the audience are usually distorted and the sound is not balanced. I love them, but I listen to them knowing how different and sonically limited they are. Similarly, I now avoid seats in balconies, upper decks and far from the stage because these are the places that often have distorted sound. Yea. I agree with you. Vocal wise live is much better for sure I think. But the production of TSP is just too good. They are two different things ik. I just need to go see him sing live... hopefully he will tour the US..
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Post by Glamman Style on Dec 13, 2012 23:19:20 GMT -5
Here goes one person's opinion on Adam's music: I will buy anything he produces and replay it hundreds of times. However, if Adam wants TPTB to support him and Grammy noms, he should probably eliminate the following words from his songs - sh-t, a-s, F-ck, and any other of the 7 forbidden words to be used on TV. I know of very few Grammy winners with questionable language in their lyrics. FYE would have been more popular with just the change of two words - S&M appeals to a limited audience. Even I almost put down 50 Shades when I thought it was all about S&M. I'm on my 5th reading of this love story (stop thinking I'm crazy because many of you who buy videos watch them over and over).
[img src="i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adam%20Smilys/Other%20Smileys/OMGlam.gif"][/IMG] [img src=" i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adam%20Smilys/Other%20Smileys/OMGlam.gif"][/IMG] [img src=" i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adam%20Smilys/Other%20Smileys/OMGlam.gif"][/IMG] [img src=" i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adam%20Smilys/Other%20Smileys/OMGlam.gif"][/IMG] And, Adam does have the support of TPTB and a Grammy nom! Btw, the S&M Queen Rihanna "has earned her numerous awards and accolades, including five American Music Awards, eighteen Billboard Music Awards, two BRIT Awards and five Grammy Awards." j/s...yeah, I know the double standards argument ensues.... [/size][/font][/quote] Here is the MAJOR difference.. Never underestimate the fact that Adam is gay. Unfortunately even though it should not make a difference, we still live in a world were it very much does. It offends and scares many people. SADS but true! Look at his two hits, and Grammy Nom. Both very safe lyrically.
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Post by bridgeymah on Dec 13, 2012 23:23:23 GMT -5
How many of you here openly endorse Adam Lambert? Do all your friends and family know you love him? Do you have his videos on your facebook page? Would you put his calendar up in your office at work? When someone asks you who you listen to do you say Adam Lambert? I'm just curious. Yup My friends know and have converted many of them to fans also. My husband knows and is fine as he has the artists he loves. I would never put up a calendar or picture or other like stuff but then I don't do that period and is nothing Adam related... enuf?
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Post by maddie509 on Dec 13, 2012 23:32:02 GMT -5
[/IMG] [img src=" i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adam%20Smilys/Other%20Smileys/OMGlam.gif"][/IMG] [img src=" i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adam%20Smilys/Other%20Smileys/OMGlam.gif"][/IMG] [img src=" i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adam%20Smilys/Other%20Smileys/OMGlam.gif"][/IMG] And, Adam does have the support of TPTB and a Grammy nom! Btw, the S&M Queen Rihanna "has earned her numerous awards and accolades, including five American Music Awards, eighteen Billboard Music Awards, two BRIT Awards and five Grammy Awards." j/s...yeah, I know the double standards argument ensues.... [/size][/font][/quote] Here is the MAJOR difference.. Never underestimate the fact that Adam is gay. Unfortunately even though it should not make a difference, we still live in a world were it very much does. It offends and scares many people. SADS but true! Look at his two hits, and Grammy Nom. Both very safe lyrically.[/quote] ;D The Rihanna example was not meant to be a comparison to Adam but to illustrate my point to the original poster's comments: "I know of very few Grammy winners with questionable language in their lyrics" and etc. But, yes to the double standards. [/size][/font]
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Post by jo on Dec 13, 2012 23:51:36 GMT -5
Okay, I don't like to post but this subject is very interesting and I wanted to give my two cents for whatever that's worth. As a diehard fan, I have all of Adam's music in various forms but what I tend to do is only listen to the Kiev concert over and over again. I rarely listened to either one of his albums. I think Adam's voice with the Queen music is otherwordly and I can't get enough. I've often gone over, in my head, what would have sent Adam into the stratosphere after idol and I do believe it would have happened had he done things right from the start. His first mistake was the AMA's and then the album cover. I think Adam was not realizing that his voice alone is what people wanted from him. I remember Barry Manilow saying that if he had just sat there (at the AMA's) and sang a great song (WWFM would have worked), he would have blown the roof off the place and I think he was right. If he had done that and then followed with the voice front and center instead of the OT stuff being front and center, I think he would be huge right now. My humble opinion is that he did not rely on his voice as much as he did the OT look and actions to get people's attention. I think this was his biggest mistake from the beginning. His being gay certainly plays a role too but a lot of the OT in the beginning was all about the gay with the AMA's, the album cover, his GNT shows, etc. and I think it was just too much too soon for those people who still live in the dark ages, which is most of America, unfortunately. If he had taken it more slowly and built up to the more OT stuff gradually so people could more willingly accept that from him, I think it would be a different story for him right now. He would be huge because he is the most talented man I have ever seen in my lifetime and one of the most beautiful too.
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Post by butterknife on Dec 13, 2012 23:55:46 GMT -5
Okay, I don't like to post but this subject is very interesting and I wanted to give my two cents for whatever that's worth. As a diehard fan, I have all of Adam's music in various forms but what I tend to do is only listen to the Kiev concert over and over again. I rarely listened to either one of his albums. I think Adam's voice with the Queen music is otherwordly and I can't get enough. I've often gone over, in my head, what would have sent Adam into the stratosphere after idol and I do believe it would have happened had he done things right from the start. His first mistake was the AMA's and then the album cover. I think Adam was not realizing that his voice alone is what people wanted from him. I remember Barry Manilow saying that if he had just sat there (at the AMA's) and sang a great song (WWFM would have worked), he would have blown the roof off the place and I think he was right. If he had done that and then followed with the voice front and center instead of the OT stuff being front and center, I think he would be huge right now. My humble opinion is that he did not rely on his voice as much as he did the OT look and actions to get people's attention. I think this was his biggest mistake from the beginning. His being gay certainly plays a role too but a lot of the OT in the beginning was all about the gay with the AMA's, the album cover, his GNT shows, etc. and I think it was just too much too soon for those people who still live in the dark ages, which is most of America, unfortunately. If he had taken it more slowly and built up to the more OT stuff gradually so people could more willingly accept that from him, I think it would be a different story for him right now. He would be huge because he is the most talented man I have ever seen in my lifetime and one of the most beautiful too. WELCOME TO ATOP! JO
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Post by whatyasay on Dec 14, 2012 0:01:59 GMT -5
Where did that song "Hold On" come from? or is it "Hold Back". How many of you here openly endorse Adam Lambert? Do all your friends and family know you love him? Do you have his videos on your facebook page? Would you put his calendar up in your office at work? When someone asks you who you listen to do you say Adam Lambert? I'm just curious. I post his video's on my facebook page and have yet to receive a comment from friends and family. I wonder if they're rolling their eyes. I openly discuss my love for Pink Floyd and Queen and really anything from more my era. But, I tend to be a little hesitant to say I absolutely adore Adam Lambert. I think perhaps I cool it because of my age and I don't want to confess to being totally taken. Then again, I'm afraid to speak up because if I'm talking to someone younger, it may make it uncool for them to like Adam because I do. This may be exactly why he gets so much on-line support because his older fans can stay "cloaked". I don't know, I should absolutely be talking up his music. Instead, when I do talk him up, it's about his live shows and not about his releases. I don't know, I feel kind of guilty that I don't openly support like a true fan should -- maybe that will be my NYE resolution! 1) my friends and family know I adore him, and I get occasional eyerolls 2) I've posted vids on my FB page, and not one person has ever commented >:( 3) I don't work in an office, so the calendar doesn't apply 4) Perhaps strangely, no one has ever directly asked me "Who do you listen to?" My daughter is also an Adam fan so I have someone to share with in addition to you guys. My co-workers know that I am an Adam "groupie". Before I began my current job I had to negotiate my start date around my trip to Arizona to see Adam in the Idols concert. My boss thinks it's a hoot and told my team mates why I started when I did and the "cat has been out of the bag" from the beginning. Whenever they hear any Adam news they ask me "did you know?" They also know why I went to London ;D I have given those interested a copy of his CDs.
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Post by tinafea on Dec 14, 2012 0:16:44 GMT -5
New Thread is up
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Post by cassie on Dec 14, 2012 0:23:20 GMT -5
Jo! First of all, welcome to ATop.
Wow, what a first post! I see your point, and don't know that I disagree with it. Certainly the majority of the American public who watch Idol are most comfortable with the cute guy next door who strums a guitar and sings love songs to his girlfriend. Extra points are awarded if he also is involved in his church music ministry and/or has a sob story. After all, that's the guy they voted for for the past five years straight. It is entirely possible that Adam would have become an even bigger star with number one singles on radio if he had taken that vanilla route.
Only one problem with that: it isn't who Adam is. As he said in an interview quoted recently, compared to his life prior to Idol, the things he did since Idol that were deemed "controversial" were nothin'. Warm up acts. He hasn't been that "apple-pie Adam" with red hair and a buzz cut since he was in high school. He's been a neo-hippie, a flower child, a sleazy Studio 54 club kid, a counter-culture standout in platform glitter boots, green body paint, and crazy make-up. Playing it straight and narrow during "The Ten Commandments" drove him crazy.
Adam is a wild child. Probably wilder than some of us even imagine. He played nice and conventional in musical theater for many years until that wild child, that creative alien just had to break free and express himself. It is not surprising that he has not been embraced by the masses. SHOULD he have been "safer" and more conventional coming off Idol? In terms of record sales and acceptability on radio etc, perhaps. In terms of being his outrageous self, not so much. I think he tried his best at the beginning of the TP era. He released two "safe", acceptable singles. He ditched most of the make-up and toned down the fashion claiming he was into a more organic look and feel. He played the game. Until he couldn't any more. Gradually, we saw the "crazy" OTT Adam re-emerge until we have him in wonderful make-up, edgy fashion, yellow and black TP costumes, fringe for days, and male dancers in Big Bird Yellow Afro wigs.
That's who we stan. Who we love. Aren't we lucky to be able to appreciate, celebrate, smile, laugh and drool over such an exceptional and unique artist?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2012 0:27:22 GMT -5
My co-workers and husband know I am an Adam fan. My husband does for sure especially when I told him I was going to see him at the KissFm concert in May and would not be around that day. I was actually just organizing some photos that I took on my old crappy camera that I replaced and I found this grainy photo that i took that day. Its not very good of Adam and its missing a VaJayJay but its a nice reminder of the one time I have got to hear , and see him live, albeit from afar..
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