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Post by whatyasay on Feb 3, 2013 15:32:22 GMT -5
I don't think we can say for a certainty that radio will never play Adam. Radio played WWFM a lot. That gives me hope that his next music will get played as much or more than WWFM.  Also think that the Grammys should separate male and female pop category again. It seems that male pop artists have no realistic chance of being nominated with the glut of pop female artists out there. My station (the largest signal in Denver) plays him pretty regularly ... Whataya Want From Me. For whatever reason Trespassing didn't connect here. Clearly radio will play him, they just need songs that connect with the audience that makes requests. I thought it was interesting that the week of his birthday, the station played Better Than I Know Myself. |
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Post by bullsfan on Feb 3, 2013 15:34:10 GMT -5
Interesting conversation  Adam didn't get a Grammy nom because he didn't have a hit song. No way around it---he put out a pop album, he needed a hit. I have come to the conclusion that Metacritic score is pretty low on the list when it comes to mainstream and even critical success. A funny thing seems to happen after an album has been out for a while. The more success an album has, the more critics seem to latch onto it. So fickle. Rolling Stone gave Trespassing an awesome review. Yet, when it came to their end-of-the-year charts and polls, they didn't even put in their top 100 albums of the year (at least I didn't see it there---someone can correct me if I missed it). How does that happen??? And the fact that the album was the first #1 by an openly gay artist, didn't even make their month-by-month milestones for the month of May. I haven't given up on radio, but they are obviously going to need a different approach (hope DMG is working hard). And I really think he is going to have to go back to the Max Martin sound (or Jeff Basker, if he isn't too big and expensive) |
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Post by SusieFierce on Feb 3, 2013 15:34:15 GMT -5
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Post by smokeyvera on Feb 3, 2013 15:45:04 GMT -5
Mellimom, my hat goes off to you!!! My son has an IEP and has his main classes, math, science, and literature in Special ed and the other classes are mainstreamed. It takes a special kind of person to deal with kids that are learning or language delayed, or have delay issues. For those who deal with the severely handicapped, it becomes a labor of love.
Kudos to you mellimom!!! A lot of teachers can't hang with special ed. They do it for a while and burn out. My son is so lucky that his literature teacher, worked in general ed and asked to be transferred into special ed, and what a difference she is making. His first semester lit teacher burned out, and became totally inaffective.
It takes a special person to be in special ed, and your postings always indicate a special connection and commitment.
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Post by nonotme on Feb 3, 2013 15:46:02 GMT -5
Just catching up with everything from the past few days. First, thanks to all who video performances and post them for those of us who can not attend in person. Thanks to those who gather videos and tweets. Thanks to those who improve videos, provide downloads, or write recaps of their experiences. And thanks to all who engage in thoughtful conversation. All of you are very sincerely appreciated.  Skimming today's thread I wanted to comment on a few things. For the couple of people who wondered if they were the only ones who did not like Frank Ocean's album, here is an article in which the author decries the popularity and critical acclaim given to boring music, and he includes Mr. Ocean in this category. blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/12/frank_ocean_is_boring.phpSomeone in today's conversation referred to Adam as having moderate success. I guess when compared to the few artists with the highest sales and tour numbers, that is true. (And we do want Adam to be in that group!) However, it is good to remember that when Adam is viewed as a part of all the solo artists and bands out there trying to make a living as musicians, he is doing extraordinarily well - hugely successful. I have a kid in the music business. He is a moderate success, and his life does not look anything like Adam's, even though statistically he is somewhere in the top 1-and-a-half percent just because he can actually cover his living expenses from his music. The discussion about tickets being held back reminded me of an article about stubhub and ticket reselling that came out a couple years ago. Sadly, I do not have a link. As I recall, that article said that many times - not all - stubhub had a contract to receive a certain percentage of tickets directly from the venue or the ticket seller. This was mentioned primarily in regards to sporting events, but also some concerts. The article also said that it was an industry standard to have a block of tickets given to the artist as part of the compensation package. Those tickets could be used for some give aways, but were primarily given to the artist so that the artist's management could sell them through resellers and thus add to the artist's pay in a way that benefitted somebody (artist? venue? ticketseller?) in their accounting/taxes or whatever. Lynne, sounds as if your family conversations about musicians and artists enjoying their work, loving their work, being grateful for their work, and not becoming too attached to successes or failures, overlaps with conversations in my family. I think although we speak of artists in this way, it is true for all kinds of work. Being good at any type of work is an art. We need to remember to value the effort and the drive to always improve and grow, and to recognize the benefits that work-as-art brings to ourselves and others. Oops, rambling... peace&love |
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Post by nica575 on Feb 3, 2013 16:27:53 GMT -5
Adam Lambert The singer-songwriter tells us what movie scares the crap out of him http://bit.ly/RMWm4O via @nextmov
Adam's comments in this little interview can generate quite a discussion! |
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Post by nonchallance on Feb 3, 2013 16:27:59 GMT -5
As for the lyric content, I never understood what "Tower of Babel falling down again" meant.....that reference was completely lost on me so I guess I can see where someone else might think the lyric is superficial if they didn't get what he was referring to. Really? IMHO this is so easy to decode especially in song like "Broken English" which is about problems in communication between people. Seriously you must know story about Tower of Babel?
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Post by nica575 on Feb 3, 2013 16:32:50 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 16:36:55 GMT -5
I picked that review because it was significant in its ravaging of the MetaCritic score, which you cited as evidence that "Trespassing" was not considered all that great among critics. (That one review took it down like 10 points and one other very late UK review chipped away at that a little more to bring it below FYE. Prior to those last couple of reviews it was tracking higher than FYE.) Additionally, the guy continued to respond to comments, which resulted in circular arguments from him, which pretty much undermined his original review, but there was no changing it at that point. I can understand a layperson not understanding every lyric. I would totally expect that most people DON'T understand every lyric. (I've been listening to Elton John/Bernie Taupin my entire life and still don't know what half of those lyrics mean.) They're meant to make you think and interpret and broaden your horizons and strive to understand something you weren't aware of before. But a professional writer that is dissing the validity of a lyric without doing a simple Google search (as any eight grader would be required to do when studying poetry) then that is on him. I was using it as an example of lack of credibility with his arguments. Critics are paid to offer an opinion and when they offer an opinion we don't agree with or which makes no sense to us, that doesn't mean they're "credibility" is lacking IMO. It just means they have a different opinion. |
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Post by rama on Feb 3, 2013 16:41:39 GMT -5
Wow! Did we know the number of viewers who tuned in to watch Adam on the Voice of China was 520 million! |
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