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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 18:51:21 GMT -5
I am Adam fan, don't even follow Sauli. However I know Adam will come out of this without any hickups, on the contrary, he will be again interresting in a new way. Even I don't know who left who, Sauli will take all heat both in practical and in publicity means. He is my countryman and I feel bad for him. I did not like Adam annoucing this alone, it should had been a common thing. I don't like how he has been behaving for quite a long time. I have said it before, and say again, "it's not what but how". There will be ugly things ahead, even though fans try to make it look nice and easy. And finally, of course, again, one bit more difficult to believe people conquering obstackles and can make things work. I am with you. I feel bad for the way Adam handled things. He (and yes I am talking about him, as I have no doubt who was the leader in their relationship) should have announced the split sooner OR he shouldn't have behaved like a single guy (and that behavior started already in the autumn and went on in New York in January and on the recent tour) while supposedly in a relationship. That was disrespectful to Sauli, even if he had got Sauli's approval, as fandom couldn't know of any possible approval. Adam's behavior caused anxiety in the fandom, and the anxiety grew when the boys were not seen much together before the longish tour and then again after the tour. Adam must have seen that anxiety on Twitter but didn't do anything to it (e.g. didn't restrict his partying until the time of announcement), only blocked those (or the one with many Twitter accounts) who expressed their (her/his) stress most blatantly. Adam put his own needs and his business before the well-being of his fandom (and perhaps even before Sauli). And today he says he loves all. Wow, sorry don't see things this way at all. I was suprised with the news today. Did notice that they weren't being photographed together as much -- just thought they were trying to keep things private. Adam was busy with his Trespassing gigs and it's obvious that Sauli was busy drumming up a TV series. Personally, I thought it was cool how they were both busy but still together. I just thought Adam and Sauli were choosing to not let themselves be such an "open book". As far as the clubs -- that's been a part of Adam and Sauli's life since the beginning. They met in one, right? Who knows what happened or what decisions were made but for someone like Adam (who continues to thank Brad Bell on his album covers!) I don't think he would all of a sudden turn into a jerk and put his own needs before his friends, his loves or his family. But, what do I know. |
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Post by 4EverAdam on Apr 5, 2013 18:52:27 GMT -5
Thanks HSM -  I need one two!! No I mean I need two, too. Here you go.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 18:53:30 GMT -5
sad to hear they broke up. I thought they were cute together and like the idea of Adam having someone there to support him.
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Post by maddie509 on Apr 5, 2013 18:53:37 GMT -5
Found about it early this morning, then had to carry a heavy heart throughout a hectic work day, now, finally some peace and quiet in front of my Mac that I can put some coherent and rational thoughts down...
Haven't gone thru the thread at all, so is it safe to say that it's a shared feeling among most of us: sad but not surprised!
I don't follow Sauli closely but from what I've seen he comes across very proud and definitely not someone that is content to be in someone else's shadow, evident in one of his most recent interviews in which he said, he was never someone that would like to be just on the sideline. I wish him all the best and good luck with pursuit of his own success.
As Adam put it, "It’s been kind of on its way out in the last couple of months", but regardless, when that moment came, it had to be heartbroken for both of them, especially they'd had an amazing couple of years together, almost magical and fairytale like which I think is precisely why we all wanted it to last forever, so bad!!
I'm guessing there will be a couple of break-up songs in album #3, and break-up songs make huge hits, just look at Adele, and Swift....maybe, just maybe.....
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Post by chameleon on Apr 5, 2013 18:55:20 GMT -5
I am Adam fan, don't even follow Sauli. However I know Adam will come out of this without any hickups, on the contrary, he will be again interresting in a new way. Even I don't know who left who, Sauli will take all heat both in practical and in publicity means. He is my countryman and I feel bad for him. I did not like Adam annoucing this alone, it should had been a common thing. I don't like how he has been behaving for quite a long time. I have said it before, and say again, "it's not what but how". There will be ugly things ahead, even though fans try to make it look nice and easy. And finally, of course, again, one bit more difficult to believe people conquering obstackles and can make things work. I am with you. I feel bad for the way Adam handled things. He (and yes I am talking about him, as I have no doubt who was the leader in their relationship) should have announced the split sooner OR he shouldn't have behaved like a single guy (and that behavior started already in the autumn and went on in New York in January and on the recent tour) while supposedly in a relationship. That was disrespectful to Sauli, even if he had got Sauli's approval, as fandom couldn't know of any possible approval. Adam's behavior caused anxiety in the fandom, and the anxiety grew when the boys were not seen much together before the longish tour and then again after the tour. Adam must have seen that anxiety on Twitter but didn't do anything to it (e.g. didn't restrict his partying until the time of announcement), only blocked those (or the one with many Twitter accounts) who expressed their (her/his) stress most blatantly. Adam put his own needs and his business before the well-being of his fandom (and perhaps even before Sauli). And today he says he loves all. Adam is not obliged to divulge or consider fandom at all in respect of his personal life and I find your statement to be one of the most obnoxious comments I've ever read on this site. " Adam must have seen that anxiety on Twitter but didn't do anything to it (e.g. didn't restrict his partying until the time of announcement), only blocked those (or the one with many Twitter accounts) who expressed their (her/his) stress most blatantly". That person is a known troll who has persistently spammed Adam for months. Your citing of them seems rather odd. I would add that I love Adam and like Sauli and wish them both to be happy. comment |
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Apr 5, 2013 18:56:20 GMT -5
I am Adam fan, don't even follow Sauli. However I know Adam will come out of this without any hickups, on the contrary, he will be again interresting in a new way. Even I don't know who left who, Sauli will take all heat both in practical and in publicity means. He is my countryman and I feel bad for him. I did not like Adam annoucing this alone, it should had been a common thing. I don't like how he has been behaving for quite a long time. I have said it before, and say again, "it's not what but how". There will be ugly things ahead, even though fans try to make it look nice and easy. And finally, of course, again, one bit more difficult to believe people conquering obstackles and can make things work. I am with you. I feel bad for the way Adam handled things. He (and yes I am talking about him, as I have no doubt who was the leader in their relationship) should have announced the split sooner OR he shouldn't have behaved like a single guy (and that behavior started already in the autumn and went on in New York in January and on the recent tour) while supposedly in a relationship. That was disrespectful to Sauli, even if he had got Sauli's approval, as fandom couldn't know of any possible approval. Adam's behavior caused anxiety in the fandom, and the anxiety grew when the boys were not seen much together before the longish tour and then again after the tour. Adam must have seen that anxiety on Twitter but didn't do anything to it (e.g. didn't restrict his partying until the time of announcement), only blocked those (or the one with many Twitter accounts) who expressed their (her/his) stress most blatantly. Adam put his own needs and his business before the well-being of his fandom (and perhaps even before Sauli). And today he says he loves all. [sips tequila]
[smiles wryly; sighs gustily]
Adam isn't required to be joined at the hip to show he cares about someone. Heck, I've known my husband since I was 17 (we met as freshmen in college) and even after all these years we're not joined at the hip. There's plenty of times he does his thing, and times I do my thing.
In my opinion, Adam has a RIGHT to put his own needs before the fandom. I may seem married to to my job at times, but I feel no true obligation to deal with them before my own needs. [shrugs] I just don't. People have a right to live their lives BEFORE parts of it get transmitted to others.
[takes another sip]
Also, my husband doesn't regularly come with me when I travel for work. Yes, he comes occasionally. But I don't expect him to. He has his own life. And Sauli, likewise, is a strongly independent person who has the right to possess a life that exists outside Adam. IMO, it's totally unfair that a few people expected Sauli to be a "beck-and-call" guy. Sauli has always appeared to me to be strongly independent. Why on earth *should* he follow Adam like a groupie on tour? Its always been clear that Sauli possessed his own interests and responsibilites. Adam was his partner. Not a sugar daddy.
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Post by murly on Apr 5, 2013 19:02:59 GMT -5
I am Adam fan, don't even follow Sauli. However I know Adam will come out of this without any hickups, on the contrary, he will be again interresting in a new way. Even I don't know who left who, Sauli will take all heat both in practical and in publicity means. He is my countryman and I feel bad for him. I did not like Adam annoucing this alone, it should had been a common thing. I don't like how he has been behaving for quite a long time. I have said it before, and say again, "it's not what but how". There will be ugly things ahead, even though fans try to make it look nice and easy. And finally, of course, again, one bit more difficult to believe people conquering obstackles and can make things work. I am with you. I feel bad for the way Adam handled things. He (and yes I am talking about him, as I have no doubt who was the leader in their relationship) should have announced the split sooner OR he shouldn't have behaved like a single guy (and that behavior started already in the autumn and went on in New York in January and on the recent tour) while supposedly in a relationship. That was disrespectful to Sauli, even if he had got Sauli's approval, as fandom couldn't know of any possible approval. Adam's behavior caused anxiety in the fandom, and the anxiety grew when the boys were not seen much together before the longish tour and then again after the tour. Adam must have seen that anxiety on Twitter but didn't do anything to it (e.g. didn't restrict his partying until the time of announcement), only blocked those (or the one with many Twitter accounts) who expressed their (her/his) stress most blatantly. Adam put his own needs and his business before the well-being of his fandom (and perhaps even before Sauli). And today he says he loves all. My head is spinning. Going out to clubs is behaving like a single guy? All people in a committed relationship are supposed to be joined at the hip with their loved one at all times, and when they can't be with that one person, they should sit at home instead of socializing with friends? Worse is the implication that Adam owes it to his fans to live his life FOR US. In a manner that never upsets US. Nobody should have to go through life constantly worrying about the approval of others. It's none of our business how Adam and Sauli worked out their relationship, and while we can be sad at its ending, I just can't see how anyone has the right to pass judgment on how it ended. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 19:03:14 GMT -5
I am Adam fan, don't even follow Sauli. However I know Adam will come out of this without any hickups, on the contrary, he will be again interresting in a new way. Even I don't know who left who, Sauli will take all heat both in practical and in publicity means. He is my countryman and I feel bad for him. I did not like Adam annoucing this alone, it should had been a common thing. I don't like how he has been behaving for quite a long time. I have said it before, and say again, "it's not what but how". There will be ugly things ahead, even though fans try to make it look nice and easy. And finally, of course, again, one bit more difficult to believe people conquering obstackles and can make things work. I am with you. I feel bad for the way Adam handled things. He (and yes I am talking about him, as I have no doubt who was the leader in their relationship) should have announced the split sooner OR he shouldn't have behaved like a single guy (and that behavior started already in the autumn and went on in New York in January and on the recent tour) while supposedly in a relationship. That was disrespectful to Sauli, even if he had got Sauli's approval, as fandom couldn't know of any possible approval. Adam's behavior caused anxiety in the fandom, and the anxiety grew when the boys were not seen much together before the longish tour and then again after the tour. Adam must have seen that anxiety on Twitter but didn't do anything to it (e.g. didn't restrict his partying until the time of announcement), only blocked those (or the one with many Twitter accounts) who expressed their (her/his) stress most blatantly. Adam put his own needs and his business before the well-being of his fandom (and perhaps even before Sauli). And today he says he loves all. No celebrity, including Adam, owes their "fandom" answers about their personal lives. When Adam and Sauli made the decision to end their relationship and how they decided to handle that decision is their business and no one else, regardless of how invested some people might feel in that relationship. I don't think Adam causes anxiety in the fandom, people too invested in the relationship of Adam and his boyfriend cause their own anxiety by projecting their hopes, dreams, fears and all manner of feeling and insecurity onto Adam. As for Twitter, well I think Adam is entitled to block anyone he chooses and I think the ones he ultimately blocked were being obnoxious and rude. Adam SHOULD put his own needs and well-being before his fandom. At the end of the day Adam can only control his own happiness and it's up to each fan to do the same for themselves and Adam's state of relationship should have no bearing on that happiness. All of this is just my opinion and not meant to antagonize anyone who might feel differently. |
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Post by QueeenAl on Apr 5, 2013 19:04:37 GMT -5
When we are all sad and need to think about a topic it is quiet on Atop.
But it is good to see that when someone writes plain BS everyone rallies to show that person is in the wrong place here. Thanks to all who have spared me to come up with a reply.
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Post by mszue on Apr 5, 2013 19:05:29 GMT -5
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When you say this:
"Adam owes us nothing except a good concert, when we pay to see him, and a good album to buy, or a show to see on tv. He does not owe us anything by revealing his personal life. We invested fans seem to be overinvested and sometimes entitled, and have such a great need to know all. He owes fandom nothing regrding personal information!!!!!!"
You are absolutely right...if all he wants from us is to buy tickets to the odd concert and buy his albums. In today's music world, from everything we read, it is more and more critical to success that you build a strong, committed and invested fandom. Adam is lauded throughout the media for having done just that. If this is the case, then I would argue that love and committment is a two way street and Adam knows this. We have his back...we promote him .... we vote everywhere.....we tweet trends....we request .....yada yada yada. It is only natural that with this level of love and commitment comes expectations, fair or not....
That said, I think he had little choice but to make this public the way he did....nothing is perfect. The party pics....there could have been fewer...if that was my BF I would have shaved him bald in the middle of the night lol..up and down..but I am not so nice, perhaps....:-)
Now we just need to stay as non-judgmental as we can and not turn on each other. It is his life to live as he sees fit. His judgement is pretty good the majority of the time.
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