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Post by bridgeymah on Apr 6, 2013 16:43:16 GMT -5
I have deduced that he may enjoy music OH MY, dear boy, I THINK YOU MAY BE ON TO SOMETHING THERE!!!! (I'd do a huge laughing smiley right now if I knew how to!) I second that devotion. LOL
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Post by hoopla1 on Apr 6, 2013 16:43:26 GMT -5
Alana, nice post and I get what you're saying...Adam can be quite articulate when he WANTS to--but IMO, he had to use those cool, generic cliches...I mean, what else could he have said? I am more than willing to let HIM choose how to say something that really is private and that we don't have a clue about. It's enough for me that he addressed it in any way, in any words, because he simply does NOT have to. Adam is a good guy, I give him the benefit of the doubt.
Sauli is no weakling. He is STRONG. You'd have to be to move to a new country, not knowing the language/having close friends here. Remember, for all we know, the whole split could've been instigated by Sauli. We know nothing. I am in awe of Sauli for taking the plunge to start a life here 2 years ago, and I don't for one minute think HOW Adam announces the split makes a difference.
Adam still has not disappointed me--ever. And it goes without saying, I'm always in awe of him!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 16:45:31 GMT -5
Alana, nice post and I get what you're saying...Adam can be quite articulate when he WANTS to--but IMO, he had to use those cool, generic cliches...I mean, what else could he have said? I am more than willing to let HIM choose how to say something that really is private and that we don't have a clue about. It's enough for me that he addressed it in any way, in any words, because he simply does NOT have to. Adam is a good guy, I give him the benefit of the doubt. Sauli is no weakling. He is STRONG. You'd have to be to move to a new country, not knowing the language/having close friends here. Remember, for all we know, the whole split could've been instigated by Sauli. We know nothing. I am in awe of Sauli for taking the plunge to start a life here 2 years ago, and I don't for one minute think HOW Adam announces the split makes a difference. Adam still has not disappointed me--ever. And it goes without saying, I'm always in awe of him! I agree! I think his words were chosen specifically to be neutral. No way to tell anything emotional from it. No blame, no fingers to point. No one to feel bad for. (Even if it is all a bunch of crock and one or both of them are hurting badly)
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Post by Q3 on Apr 6, 2013 16:45:41 GMT -5
Thank you everyone for expressing your thoughts and feelings about Adam and Sauli ending their relationship. Your posts have mostly mirrored my own musings and it’s good to know that others’ feel the same. Just to lend a little support to one or two posters, I have to say that personally I was a little disappointed in the words that Adam chose – “on it’s way out” and “run it’s course” – somehow don’t sit right with me. We all know that Adam has a wonderful command of the English language and I feel that a little more finesse, warmth or respect for Sauli could have been used. Maybe those phrases are more acceptable today than I realise, or maybe Adam was exhibiting some bravado when talking about such a personal subject, I don’t know…. but I can understand why the announcement upset a few posters because of the ‘tone’ of the quotes from Adam. Alana, thanks for this post. I did not understand the comments before I read your note. I see it more clearly now. I took it as Adam trying hard to make it sound like they were still friends and that this was a drama-free end to their relationship, but I know that was just my interpretation. I have no doubt that Adam was truly in love with Sauli and still cares about him. We do not know what he said to the reporter, we just know the quotes the reporter chose to put into the article.
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Post by Q3 on Apr 6, 2013 16:51:20 GMT -5
Thank you everyone for expressing your thoughts and feelings about Adam and Sauli ending their relationship. Your posts have mostly mirrored my own musings and it’s good to know that others’ feel the same. Just to lend a little support to one or two posters, I have to say that personally I was a little disappointed in the words that Adam chose – “on it’s way out” and “run it’s course” – somehow don’t sit right with me. We all know that Adam has a wonderful command of the English language and I feel that a little more finesse, warmth or respect for Sauli could have been used. Maybe those phrases are more acceptable today than I realise, or maybe Adam was exhibiting some bravado when talking about such a personal subject, I don’t know…. but I can understand why the announcement upset a few posters because of the ‘tone’ of the quotes from Adam.
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Post by satisfied on Apr 6, 2013 16:51:36 GMT -5
Thank you everyone for expressing your thoughts and feelings about Adam and Sauli ending their relationship. Your posts have mostly mirrored my own musings and it’s good to know that others’ feel the same. Just to lend a little support to one or two posters, I have to say that personally I was a little disappointed in the words that Adam chose – “on it’s way out” and “run it’s course” – somehow don’t sit right with me. We all know that Adam has a wonderful command of the English language and I feel that a little more finesse, warmth or respect for Sauli could have been used. Maybe those phrases are more acceptable today than I realise, or maybe Adam was exhibiting some bravado when talking about such a personal subject, I don’t know…. but I can understand why the announcement upset a few posters because of the ‘tone’ of the quotes from Adam. Articles pick and choose which quotes to use, or how much of what was said. If everything AFL said had been printed, perhaps these sound bites would sit better with some folks, I don't know. But from what I do know, these expressions are often used in describing relationships in a general manner when people are moving on. AFL continues to earn my respect in how he deals with so much, even though he had me at mama.
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Post by wilma on Apr 6, 2013 16:53:32 GMT -5
This looks similar to some of the same things that were said after the Finland incident -- at that time Sauli's friends said Adam was very/too jealous and possessive of Sauli. I think that this is possibly true and the difference between very & too can be in the eye of the beholder. There is at least one error in the article -- " A couple of weeks ago, Adam concerts in Finland, and immediately reached wonder why the couple flew back to the U.S. on different machines."
But Adam went to Austria for some Life Ball promo work not the US. Sauli had to get back to LA to start work on his TV show.
I wonder who or what is this "close circle" they refer, but the article has a lot of weird mistakes like the different flight thing. Also I find it weird to say that they have had problems everytime visiting Finland. I think they visited once before this last concert and yes, ended up in jail then. But I don't think that the break-up had anything to do with this last Helsinki visit. Or anything to do with Nikos current visit to US. I am sure Adam can be jealous though. The article is quite vicious. I would not like to have "friends" like that and Sauli probably either. Hello to everybody:) I´d like to say something about this so called article in Finnish mag. This is the magazine that is the worst kind of tabloid in Finland:( I think the article is cruel and totally uncalled for. We know here in Atop something about Adam´s and Sauli´s relationship and that´s because they have chosen to let us know. Okay...mostly Adam; but still:)Tabloids don´t know nor care, so they just keep digging. I´m certain that the real close friends of Sauli´s would never even open their mouths about Sauli´s things. So please try to ignore! We all know that there will be trash at some point; in Finland and in the States. But it´s because of tabloids. I´m trying to cope here with recent news. Made me sad; I love Adam and Sauli both. And I will keep on loving them no matter what the circumstances. I wanna give you all a group hug. Adam and Sauli are/will be fine and so will I and the rest of us:)
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Post by JanuarySnow on Apr 6, 2013 16:54:34 GMT -5
My two cents 8-| I was reading yesterday's and today's threads and there were so many great posts, and I wanted to say something myself, but everything seemed to be a bit too selfish or inconsiderate :-/ My main feeling, besides understandable sadness, was "damn, changes again" :-S I hate changes with a passion - I know it's necessary part of life, but it always takes me a lot of time to adjust, to feel comfortable again... I like it that I have other people to share unhappy feelings, because shared, they will fade quicker, and we'll be left with one big happy feeling of living through a fairy tale and knowing these wonderful persons. And thinking about it, I went to my 'safe place' and created for you all ... 'Adam and Sauli's journey together through the eyes of one wise bear we all love and trust:Before beginning a Hunt, it is wise to ask someone what you are looking for before you begin looking for it. -- Pooh's Little Instruction Book, inspired by A. A. Milne
It is more fun to talk with someone who doesn't use long, difficult words but rather short, easy words like "What about lunch?" -- Pooh's Little Instruction Book, inspired by A. A. Milne
Just because an animal is large, it doesn't mean he doesn't want kindness; however big Tigger seems to be, remember that he wants as much kindness as Roo. -- Roo, Pooh's Little Instruction Book, inspired by A. A. Milne
Some people care too much, I think it's called love. -- Winnie the Pooh
"Well," said Pooh, "what I like best -- " and then he had to stop and think. Because although Eating Honey was a very good thing to do, there was a moment just before you began to eat it which was better than when you were, but he didn't know what it was called. -- Winnie the Pooh, The House at Pooh Corner
When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it. -- Pooh's Little Instruction Book, inspired by A. A. Milne
They're funny things, Accidents. You never have them till you're having them. -- Eeyore, Pooh's Little Instruction Book, inspired by A. A. Milne
The hardest part is what to leave behind, ... It's time to let go! -- Winnie the Pooh
If ever there is tomorrow when we’re not together.. there is something you must always remember. You are braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think. But the most important thing is, even if we’re apart.. I’ll always be with you. -- Winnie the Pooh
Wherever they go, and whatever happens to them on the way, in that enchanted place on the top of the forest, a little boy and his Bear will always be playing. -- Winnie the Pooh, The House at Pooh Corne
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Post by melliemom on Apr 6, 2013 16:55:10 GMT -5
Q3 Quote: 'The part that puzzles me is Adam's March 28, 2012, interview with Fernando and Greg from 99.7 NOW, San Francisco.'Q3 comment: I already corrected my post -- I was confused about the dates.So, this interview was over a year ago (while Adam was doing the infamous radio promotion tour for Trespassing) and at that time they were still going strong. Adam was very much deeply in love. I recall some 'current boyfriend' comments from Adam and in my memory I am placing them late summer/fall 2012. They were still going strong, but I thought it was the first time that Adam let it show in noticeable way that he did not think of this relationship as 'forever'. Mostly this came up whenever somebody asked him about marriage and prior to the election (Nov. 2012) those topics were everywhere. But yet, they were still very much together with no immediate end in sight. Somewhere in the beginning of 2013 things did start to feel quite differently and around his birthday I had a pretty strong feeling that things had changed. We had major discussions here in the following weeks leading up to Valentines Day. And Adam's greeting on that day then was rather brief, certainly not the Rakastan from a year earlier. Now he says that it had been on its way out over the last few months. That all adds up in timeline. I think they made their decisions in January and from then on planned the exit path. It shows how very much a team they still were over the last few months that they pulled that off together, including the whole visit to Finland, that we thought was the 'great homecoming' for both of them and yet we know now that Adam must have dreaded it to some degree. I thought that leaving St.P he must have been relieved and in a political sense he probably was, but yet the Helskinki chapter for him was much more difficult than we noticed and I now understand why he cancelled so much press. He would have had to lie. Instead he chose to say nothing and handle the actual visit including the concert in a very classy way and together with Sauli. And then they waited a while to let that be digested and overtaken by other news and now we find out. Adam and Sauli have lived with all this info since months, they are in a totally different space than we are. But yes, while Adam was very much in love, I don't believe he ever fully believed in forever and certainly did not believe it anymore last fall. And actually, I don't believe that this has anything to do with Sauli himself, I just think that Adam may not truly believe in forever - period. He just starts thinking about it more when things have settled down and not during the time of first infatuation. Adam is a child of divorce and he always said his parents' separation was a complete surprise to him. That does shake you up, because if you cannot see it coming in your parents' life, then how will you be sure that you will know in your own life. All kids of 'surprise' parent break-ups have this 'trust' topic hanging over their lives. Other types of divorces - other issues. And Adam is naturally a doubter and so that will always be with him. But Adam is also very enthusiastic and so he can fall in love and be on cloud nine for a while and yet, when he thinks it through, he does realize that it is not looking like forever for him. I think in some way, this will always be a self-fulfilling prophecy in his life. To paraphrase. Adam also said he never thought marriage was in the cards for him,because he was gay.Things are changing fast in America.. and maybe Adam's viewpoint will change as well when his career is where he wants it to be and when he's older.In my mind's eye ,I can see Adam having a family of his own in his late 40's ...just a real long guess
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Post by stardust on Apr 6, 2013 16:56:22 GMT -5
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