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Post by Craazyforadam on Aug 8, 2013 19:03:54 GMT -5
Evamaria, I did not say one bit that he was let go. And I also don't think that anybody else doing so, is being correct. It is very clear that there are differences in vision that have been far-reaching between the new management that came in at RCA, and Adam and the A&R team that developed/created Trespassing together with him.
And then you have a chicken and egg problem. Because they don't see the value in TSP, they don't properly promote/sell it/ choose singles, so the songs that are the best never get heard by the public and so the money does not come in and so the album does not make them money.
In the process of finger-pointing, everybody has an opinion on where the problem lies and I think they are utterly stupid to let Adam go and to not market TSP properly and to not see the value he brings to the table. But that is why Adam walked out on them, as well as they pushed him into that cover singing corner - it is two sides of that same coin. I am just so glad, he was ABLE to walk out. Creative difference is exactly right. Adam needs to work with those that see his talent and potential and that is what is happening and I could not be happier about that.
It is just that Nile is clearly on Adam's side and yet presents it in a one-sided way and that bugs me a tad.
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Post by maitospf on Aug 8, 2013 19:14:08 GMT -5
adam-pictures.com @adam_pictures 2m 8 HQ pictures of Adam Lambert arriving at Hooray Henry's in West Hollywood (August 7) - bit.ly/14nzGCG   Just look at this picture.. He looks so gorgeous with hair falling over his face like that.. Totally agree. Not a melvin fan but a little bit of falling (emo) hair really brings out the gorgeous... ![]() |
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Post by evamaria on Aug 8, 2013 19:15:03 GMT -5
Evamaria, I did not say one bit that he was let go. And I also don't think that anybody else doing so, is being correct. It is very clear that there are differences in vision that have been far-reaching between the new management that came in at RCA, and Adam and the A&R team that developed/created Trespassing together with him. And then you have a chicken and egg problem. Because they don't see the value in TSP, they don't properly promote/sell it/ choose singles, so the songs that are the best never get heard by the public and so the money does not come in and so the album does not make them money. In the process of finger-pointing, everybody has an opinion on where the problem lies and I think they are utterly stupid to let Adam go and to not market TSP properly and to not see the value he brings to the table. But that is why Adam walked out on them, as well as they pushed him into that cover singing corner - it is two sides of that same coin. I am just so glad, he was ABLE to walk out. Creative difference is exactly right. Adam needs to work with those that see his talent and potential and that is what is happening and I could not be happier about that. It is just that Nile is clearly on Adam's side and yet presents it in a one-sided way and that bugs me a tad. I meant that I was glad NILE said it, not you. I liked hearing it from his pov, as he's not a fan but a pro who's been at it for a decades. He's seen it all. If he says that there could be a hit song here, and if he implies that the combination of that song with Glee is very good, then I believe him sooner than a legion of fans (no insult to fans; I am one). So I really liked the interview, as I admire Nile, and trust him. |
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Post by melliemom on Aug 8, 2013 19:17:42 GMT -5
Evamaria, I did not say one bit that he was let go. And I also don't think that anybody else doing so, is being correct. It is very clear that there are differences in vision that have been far-reaching between the new management that came in at RCA, and Adam and the A&R team that developed/created Trespassing together with him. And then you have a chicken and egg problem. Because they don't see the value in TSP, they don't properly promote/sell it/ choose singles, so the songs that are the best never get heard by the public and so the money does not come in and so the album does not make them money. In the process of finger-pointing, everybody has an opinion on where the problem lies and I think they are utterly stupid to let Adam go and to not market TSP properly and to not see the value he brings to the table. But that is why Adam walked out on them, as well as they pushed him into that cover singing corner - it is two sides of that same coin. I am just so glad, he was ABLE to walk out. Creative difference is exactly right. Adam needs to work with those that see his talent and potential and that is what is happening and I could not be happier about that. It is just that Nile is clearly on Adam's side and yet presents it in a one-sided way and that bugs me a tad. If Nile said RCA let Adam go..IMHO I think He was implying that RCA should have done everything they could to keep a talent like ADAM,so that he wouldn't go.. That It's their loss.That's how I see it.. I mean ADAM did have a choice and he chose to go rather than compromise himself.If RCA wanted ADAM gone ,there would have been no offer for a Covers album.. It would be goodbye here's the door. In my mind END OF STORY. |
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Post by maitospf on Aug 8, 2013 19:18:55 GMT -5
OOOOHHHHHH...swooning and spamming... ![]()
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Post by lilly on Aug 8, 2013 19:22:16 GMT -5
Just going on record: If he will wear his hair like this always!, he can keep the damn Melvin. yum there,s nae whisky left so a, will need tae gan tae bed ,so whit this vision ,a jist micht ha some sweet dreams ,,and at my age that is all i will get gdnt folks |
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Post by franki13 on Aug 8, 2013 19:24:31 GMT -5
Evamaria, I did not say one bit that he was let go. And I also don't think that anybody else doing so, is being correct. It is very clear that there are differences in vision that have been far-reaching between the new management that came in at RCA, and Adam and the A&R team that developed/created Trespassing together with him. And then you have a chicken and egg problem. Because they don't see the value in TSP, they don't properly promote/sell it/ choose singles, so the songs that are the best never get heard by the public and so the money does not come in and so the album does not make them money. In the process of finger-pointing, everybody has an opinion on where the problem lies and I think they are utterly stupid to let Adam go and to not market TSP properly and to not see the value he brings to the table. But that is why Adam walked out on them, as well as they pushed him into that cover singing corner - it is two sides of that same coin. I am just so glad, he was ABLE to walk out. Creative difference is exactly right. Adam needs to work with those that see his talent and potential and that is what is happening and I could not be happier about that. It is just that Nile is clearly on Adam's side and yet presents it in a one-sided way and that bugs me a tad. If Nile said RCA let Adam go..IMHO I think He was implying that RCA should have done everything they could to keep a talent like ADAM,so that he wouldn't go.. That It's their loss.That's how I see it.. I mean ADAM did have a choice and he chose to go rather than compromise himself.If RCA wanted ADAM gone ,there would have been no offer for a Covers album.. It would be goodbye here's the door. In my mind END OF STORY. Thank you...very well said...you put into words what I was thinking but not sure how to convey. |
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Post by satisfied on Aug 8, 2013 19:27:29 GMT -5
Chunkey has outdone herself again. Heh! Mur! @factorfictnomg DYING RT @thehomeplanet: ADAM AS A …..NEMESIS?: wp.me/p1d1wi-jZT |
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Post by Craazyforadam on Aug 8, 2013 20:01:06 GMT -5
Thanks for your answer(s) to my various Nile songs question, so it looks like we are talking about two different songs in total, as best we know, yum!
And also for helping me word that whole RCA topic better. Thanks - you guys said it much better than I could.
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Post by cassie on Aug 8, 2013 20:13:49 GMT -5
Adam said that RCA was only willing to support an album of covers. He was not willing to make that album. So they agreed to part ways. Nile says Adam was dropped by his label. The two statements are not in conflict. If my boss tells me she wants me to to work on X project or accept Y position or move to Z city and it is not negotiable, but I refuse, I am let go. Or I resign first and walk away. No matter what you call it, my job is over. Their choice not to let me do the work I am committed to and was hired to do. My choice not to do the work they want. Actually, I have been there and faced that dilemma.
It is striking to me how many times people have had the opportunity to have Adam do what he does so well, and have turned him down. And ironic how many times Adam ended up the winner regardless of their lack of insight. He tries out for We Will Rock You and doesn't get past the first audition. Years later, he is singing with Queen. THE Queen. To rave reviews and high praise from Roger and Brian themselves. He tries out for Glee and they turn him down because he doesn't fit the role of a high school student. Years later, they are writing a role specifically for Adam to portray on Glee. Adam "loses" American Idol. Years later, he is one of the most successful and recognizable Idol contestants ever (and widely thought to have been the best of all seasons). Adam is up for an Idol judging job and they decide they don't want him. The panel they choose is a disaster in the eyes of the audience and the press. While Adam goes on to win more and more acclaim and respect as an artist and a positive role model. RCA decides not to exercise their option to record Adam's next album. Adam goes on to record with Nile and Avicii in what Nile says will be a huge hit (and I am believing that will soon come true).
Somehow, the Universe looks out for Adam. Or Adam stays true to himself and works his ass off and ends up succeeding despite the lack of insight of others. Or both. I believe we are just beginning to see what Adam will do. USA Queenbert, Avicii, Glee, A3, and who knows what other projects that will surprise and delight us. I don't think I am the only one who has the gut feeling that Adam is about to triumph again. Can't wait to see what happens.
P.S. Did anyone else notice in the club interview that when asked about performing with Queen, Adam starts to add something about more possible shows, but is cut off by something off camera and distracted, not finishing his statement. Hmmmmmm.
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