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Post by FanOfTheMan on Aug 8, 2013 20:15:34 GMT -5
Evamaria, I did not say one bit that he was let go. And I also don't think that anybody else doing so, is being correct. It is very clear that there are differences in vision that have been far-reaching between the new management that came in at RCA, and Adam and the A&R team that developed/created Trespassing together with him. And then you have a chicken and egg problem. Because they don't see the value in TSP, they don't properly promote/sell it/ choose singles, so the songs that are the best never get heard by the public and so the money does not come in and so the album does not make them money. In the process of finger-pointing, everybody has an opinion on where the problem lies and I think they are utterly stupid to let Adam go and to not market TSP properly and to not see the value he brings to the table. But that is why Adam walked out on them, as well as they pushed him into that cover singing corner - it is two sides of that same coin. I am just so glad, he was ABLE to walk out. Creative difference is exactly right. Adam needs to work with those that see his talent and potential and that is what is happening and I could not be happier about that. It is just that Nile is clearly on Adam's side and yet presents it in a one-sided way and that bugs me a tad. If Nile said RCA let Adam go..IMHO I think He was implying that RCA should have done everything they could to keep a talent like ADAM,so that he wouldn't go.. That It's their loss.That's how I see it.. I mean ADAM did have a choice and he chose to go rather than compromise himself.If RCA wanted ADAM gone ,there would have been no offer for a Covers album.. It would be goodbye here's the door. In my mind END OF STORY. Exactly!!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 20:16:56 GMT -5
Evamaria, I did not say one bit that he was let go. And I also don't think that anybody else doing so, is being correct. It is very clear that there are differences in vision that have been far-reaching between the new management that came in at RCA, and Adam and the A&R team that developed/created Trespassing together with him. And then you have a chicken and egg problem. Because they don't see the value in TSP, they don't properly promote/sell it/ choose singles, so the songs that are the best never get heard by the public and so the money does not come in and so the album does not make them money. In the process of finger-pointing, everybody has an opinion on where the problem lies and I think they are utterly stupid to let Adam go and to not market TSP properly and to not see the value he brings to the table. But that is why Adam walked out on them, as well as they pushed him into that cover singing corner - it is two sides of that same coin. I am just so glad, he was ABLE to walk out. Creative difference is exactly right. Adam needs to work with those that see his talent and potential and that is what is happening and I could not be happier about that. It is just that Nile is clearly on Adam's side and yet presents it in a one-sided way and that bugs me a tad. ![]() Just want to add that Nile is a great story teller and loves to embellish to make things more exciting. In this case, I think he was trying to make RCA look like idiots, which of course, we know they are! |
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Post by theosgma on Aug 8, 2013 20:29:53 GMT -5
Adam said that RCA was only willing to support an album of covers. He was not willing to make that album. So they agreed to part ways. Nile says Adam was dropped by his label. The two statements are not in conflict. If my boss tells me she wants me to to work on X project or accept Y position or move to Z city and it is not negotiable, but I refuse, I am let go. Or I resign first and walk away. No matter what you call it, my job is over. Their choice not to let me do the work I am committed to and was hired to do. My choice not to do the work they want. Actually, I have been there and faced that dilemma. It is striking to me how many times people have had the opportunity to have Adam do what he does so well, and have turned him down. And ironic how many times Adam ended up the winner regardless of their lack of insight. He tries out for We Will Rock You and doesn't get past the first audition. Years later, he is singing with Queen. THE Queen. To rave reviews and high praise from Roger and Brian themselves. He tries out for Glee and they turn him down because he doesn't fit the role of a high school student. Years later, they are writing a role specifically for Adam to portray on Glee. Adam "loses" American Idol. Years later, he is one of the most successful and recognizable Idol contestants ever (and widely thought to have been the best of all seasons). Adam is up for an Idol judging job and they decide they don't want him. The panel they choose is a disaster in the eyes of the audience and the press. While Adam goes on to win more and more acclaim and respect as an artist and a positive role model. RCA decides not to exercise their option to record Adam's next album. Adam goes on to record with Nile and Avicii in what Nile says will be a huge hit (and I am believing that will soon come true). Somehow, the Universe looks out for Adam. Or Adam stays true to himself and works his ass off and ends up succeeding despite the lack of insight of others. Or both. I believe we are just beginning to see what Adam will do. USA Queenbert, Avicii, Glee, A3, and who knows what other projects that will surprise and delight us. I don't think I am the only one who has the gut feeling that Adam is about to triumph again. Can't wait to see what happens. P.S. Did anyone else notice in the club interview that when asked about performing with Queen, Adam starts to add something about more possible shows, but is cut off by something off camera and distracted, not finishing his statement. Hmmmmmm. Love this post. ITA The last piece though - I thought Adam trailed off with "it is up to those guys". On other words, if he goes on to do more with Queen than a concert here or there is really Brian and Roger's decision. Anyone else hear that in that way. |
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Post by thelambertluvva on Aug 8, 2013 20:36:25 GMT -5
Adam said that RCA was only willing to support an album of covers. He was not willing to make that album. So they agreed to part ways. Nile says Adam was dropped by his label. The two statements are not in conflict. If my boss tells me she wants me to to work on X project or accept Y position or move to Z city and it is not negotiable, but I refuse, I am let go. Or I resign first and walk away. No matter what you call it, my job is over. Their choice not to let me do the work I am committed to and was hired to do. My choice not to do the work they want. Actually, I have been there and faced that dilemma. It is striking to me how many times people have had the opportunity to have Adam do what he does so well, and have turned him down. And ironic how many times Adam ended up the winner regardless of their lack of insight. He tries out for We Will Rock You and doesn't get past the first audition. Years later, he is singing with Queen. THE Queen. To rave reviews and high praise from Roger and Brian themselves. He tries out for Glee and they turn him down because he doesn't fit the role of a high school student. Years later, they are writing a role specifically for Adam to portray on Glee. Adam "loses" American Idol. Years later, he is one of the most successful and recognizable Idol contestants ever (and widely thought to have been the best of all seasons). Adam is up for an Idol judging job and they decide they don't want him. The panel they choose is a disaster in the eyes of the audience and the press. While Adam goes on to win more and more acclaim and respect as an artist and a positive role model. RCA decides not to exercise their option to record Adam's next album. Adam goes on to record with Nile and Avicii in what Nile says will be a huge hit (and I am believing that will soon come true). Somehow, the Universe looks out for Adam. Or Adam stays true to himself and works his ass off and ends up succeeding despite the lack of insight of others. Or both. I believe we are just beginning to see what Adam will do. USA Queenbert, Avicii, Glee, A3, and who knows what other projects that will surprise and delight us. I don't think I am the only one who has the gut feeling that Adam is about to triumph again. Can't wait to see what happens. P.S. Did anyone else notice in the club interview that when asked about performing with Queen, Adam starts to add something about more possible shows, but is cut off by something off camera and distracted, not finishing his statement. Hmmmmmm. Besides these things happening, I have been quite encouraged by the posts of two Asians in IDF (the one South Korean and one Thai). If you haven't already heard, IIHU is charting now on the South Korean equivalent of Billboard and the Thai person said every time she turns on the TV, the NCOE video is playing. She said this is not just Thailand but all over Asia. They are even suggesting he come back to Asia and tour and Sony should re-release Trespassing. Here is the thread if you want to follow it. It points to an initial post by the South Korean about the Psy commercial but you can get to all the posts after that talking about the stuff I mentioned above. idolforums.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=696387&view=findpost&p=25872925 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 20:54:07 GMT -5
I must have missed the interview or not been listening properly to Nile saying that Adam was dropped. Which interview did he say it?
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Post by PineappleOphelia on Aug 8, 2013 20:57:11 GMT -5
Adam said that RCA was only willing to support an album of covers. He was not willing to make that album. So they agreed to part ways. Nile says Adam was dropped by his label. The two statements are not in conflict. If my boss tells me she wants me to to work on X project or accept Y position or move to Z city and it is not negotiable, but I refuse, I am let go. Or I resign first and walk away. No matter what you call it, my job is over. Their choice not to let me do the work I am committed to and was hired to do. My choice not to do the work they want. Actually, I have been there and faced that dilemma. It is striking to me how many times people have had the opportunity to have Adam do what he does so well, and have turned him down. And ironic how many times Adam ended up the winner regardless of their lack of insight. He tries out for We Will Rock You and doesn't get past the first audition. Years later, he is singing with Queen. THE Queen. To rave reviews and high praise from Roger and Brian themselves. He tries out for Glee and they turn him down because he doesn't fit the role of a high school student. Years later, they are writing a role specifically for Adam to portray on Glee. Adam "loses" American Idol. Years later, he is one of the most successful and recognizable Idol contestants ever (and widely thought to have been the best of all seasons). Adam is up for an Idol judging job and they decide they don't want him. The panel they choose is a disaster in the eyes of the audience and the press. While Adam goes on to win more and more acclaim and respect as an artist and a positive role model. RCA decides not to exercise their option to record Adam's next album. Adam goes on to record with Nile and Avicii in what Nile says will be a huge hit (and I am believing that will soon come true). Somehow, the Universe looks out for Adam. Or Adam stays true to himself and works his ass off and ends up succeeding despite the lack of insight of others. Or both. I believe we are just beginning to see what Adam will do. USA Queenbert, Avicii, Glee, A3, and who knows what other projects that will surprise and delight us. I don't think I am the only one who has the gut feeling that Adam is about to triumph again. Can't wait to see what happens. P.S. Did anyone else notice in the club interview that when asked about performing with Queen, Adam starts to add something about more possible shows, but is cut off by something off camera and distracted, not finishing his statement. Hmmmmmm. LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS!!! It is so full of truth and beauty! And yes, I did notice the Queen answer in the club interview  |
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Post by thelambertluvva on Aug 8, 2013 20:59:26 GMT -5
He's a guy. I don't expect a guy to have a perfect skin like a photo model or something. As a life-long acne sufferer, I have never thought Adam's skin was that bad, even during the idol days. I am a member of acne.org and there were several threads about him during the idol time-frame. I just reread one of them and most of them say his skin was not that bad and a lot of them said "so what, he's gorgeous."  Here's the thread in case anyone is curious. www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/227537-american-idol-contestant-with-severe-acne-scarring/BTW, I didn't realize that TMZ link had a poll. Adam is winning by a small margin. I was amazed to see over 16K votes. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 20:59:49 GMT -5
Yeah, all super talented guys though whit ah used tae think ye kent whit ye were talkin aboot ,boy ye need yer ears washed oot these guys canna sing ,if yer no listnen tae AFL away an listen tae tae some ROY KHAN , an the new guy karevik ,is way better than these ,that ALOE VERA , GUY s tunless ah kin sing better ,n am tone deef  I crack up each time you post Lilly. Both my parents were from Scotland so I need no translator. I was brought up on Oor Wullie and the Broons! |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Aug 8, 2013 21:00:28 GMT -5
Adam said that RCA was only willing to support an album of covers. He was not willing to make that album. So they agreed to part ways. Nile says Adam was dropped by his label. The two statements are not in conflict. If my boss tells me she wants me to to work on X project or accept Y position or move to Z city and it is not negotiable, but I refuse, I am let go. Or I resign first and walk away. No matter what you call it, my job is over. Their choice not to let me do the work I am committed to and was hired to do. My choice not to do the work they want. Actually, I have been there and faced that dilemma. It is striking to me how many times people have had the opportunity to have Adam do what he does so well, and have turned him down. And ironic how many times Adam ended up the winner regardless of their lack of insight. He tries out for We Will Rock You and doesn't get past the first audition. Years later, he is singing with Queen. THE Queen. To rave reviews and high praise from Roger and Brian themselves. He tries out for Glee and they turn him down because he doesn't fit the role of a high school student. Years later, they are writing a role specifically for Adam to portray on Glee. Adam "loses" American Idol. Years later, he is one of the most successful and recognizable Idol contestants ever (and widely thought to have been the best of all seasons). Adam is up for an Idol judging job and they decide they don't want him. The panel they choose is a disaster in the eyes of the audience and the press. While Adam goes on to win more and more acclaim and respect as an artist and a positive role model. RCA decides not to exercise their option to record Adam's next album. Adam goes on to record with Nile and Avicii in what Nile says will be a huge hit (and I am believing that will soon come true). Somehow, the Universe looks out for Adam. Or Adam stays true to himself and works his ass off and ends up succeeding despite the lack of insight of others. Or both. I believe we are just beginning to see what Adam will do. USA Queenbert, Avicii, Glee, A3, and who knows what other projects that will surprise and delight us. I don't think I am the only one who has the gut feeling that Adam is about to triumph again. Can't wait to see what happens. P.S. Did anyone else notice in the club interview that when asked about performing with Queen, Adam starts to add something about more possible shows, but is cut off by something off camera and distracted, not finishing his statement. Hmmmmmm.Can someone point me to a YouTube of this club interview? |
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Post by jean1010 on Aug 8, 2013 21:00:53 GMT -5
thelambertluvva said:
Besides these things happening, I have been quite encouraged by the posts of two Asians in IDF (the one South Korean and one Thai). If you haven't already heard, IIHU is charting now on the South Korean equivalent of Billboard and the Thai person said every time she turns on the TV, the NCOE video is playing. She said this is not just Thailand but all over Asia. They are even suggesting he come back to Asia and tour and Sony should re-release Trespassing.
I have been keeping an eye on NCOE video because it seems to be gaining views quickly for an old song without radio play. In the last five days it gained, 16,968, 16,628, 17,749 and 15,097 which is a pretty good clip IMO. By comparison, trespassing ,which we are pushing as fans on Atop, gains a little over 3K a day. I wonder if this view increase could be because of Asian fans?
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Here's the thread in case anyone is curious. 
