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Post by RedLips on Aug 27, 2013 18:24:04 GMT -5
Inside Edition just did their piece on the obligatory story of the day. They then ended the story by saying Adam Lambert was one of the few celebrities showing their support as they showed a clip of him presenting.
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Post by rama on Aug 27, 2013 18:26:44 GMT -5
I have to weigh in on the AMA fall out. At the time I remember feeling absolutely sick to my stomach. It didn't seem like Adam with such aggression. Still naive to the whole music business, I had hopes that this performance would make fans of everyone watching. This was to be his big break and I thought he had ruined everything! But the way he handled himself in the aftermath earned my respect and admiration. My AVI is even from that time! In hindsight I think it was more positive than negative. It moved him some what out of the Idol bubble and gained him overseas fans.
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Post by skylar on Aug 27, 2013 18:35:55 GMT -5
I was introducing my mother and some other people to Adam Lambert for the first time with the AMA performance and I had told some other friends to watch him. The performance seriously upset me because I immediately knew that he was coming across to some of the more conservative people I had given the heads up to, as icky-slimy and Adam is simply not icky slimy. His sexuality has so many different facets. We all have different facets to our sexuality. I just felt it was too bad that it was the S&M theme sexuality that came out for the AMA. S&M underground as a choice for the first AMA performance was just bad timing. The dark domination/submission and frankly slightly deranged/insane sexuality (the woman who followed him across the stage holding her flailing head like it was about to fall off I confess disturbed me more than the other stuff. Was she insane because she couldn't have him? along with the nasal high pitched singing actually freaked me out a bit. Again, not saying the performance was wrong, just wrong place and timing for a head on with conservative mainstream unconscious fears. Unless that was the actual goal. It WAS one way to clear them out right quick. So, It was the combination of his voice and his tapping into every homophobic conservative's worst stereotype/fear of a lascivious gay underworld with men grabbing anyone and everyone (straight and gay alike) along his way. Jung would say that he literally tapped into the great collective unconscious fear about gay men. But it did bring up the conversation and it didn't kill Adam. And people know Adam does not = S&M. The unfortunate truth is he walked straight into the homophobic conservative's stereotype trap. Very easy to do and almost a kind of waiting fate. I did feel like sooo many people could have broken through their narrow minded stereotypes and walls could have been broken further down that evening from a great performance by Adam. But that is a lot of pressure on one guy. And It just didn't happen. So, if the goal was gaining more followers it was just really bad timing for that particular type of performance. It could have been a massive opportunity for people to absolutely fall in love with Adam. I could see the massive potential for huge droves of more people falling in love. But, on the other hand, maybe what happened kind of had to happen at some point and he just kind of dove right into it. Maybe it gave him a freedom he didn't fully realize he needed. Freedom to not have to worry about lightweight, more conservative fans. I also strongly believe people are willing to give him another chance. Adam is such an undeniable MASSIVE and exciting talent. Time has passed. He is not S&M underword. He can perform S&M underworld quite well. But the other 99.9% of him is out there for the world to see. I also suspect the performance may have been cathartic for Adam. Who wouldn't be extremely hurt and pissed off about having their sexuality rejected by mainstream society. If that was me I would most certainly react with anger and want to include blatant, in your face gay sexual moves in every performance. There is a heroism and great courage involved in taking gay sexuality out of its societally enforced hiding into mainstream light. It can be done more subtly perhaps but we all live and learn. I think the vast majority in U.S.A is finally beginning to get that gay is not so different, not so scary. He placed a dark gay sexuality out onto the stage, offered it up for "civil" society conversation. Whether or not America thought it was pretty, it absolutely did provoke extremely important conversation. I think the important thing is that everyone knows that performance does not define Adam or the gay community. It is one performance by one man at one time. The kiss was fantastic!! What a great statement to make, assuming Tommy knew it could be coming at him and was fully on board.
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Post by Holst on Aug 27, 2013 18:40:01 GMT -5
YW Kamar! Carina @_ninni Check out "HD: 2013-08-25 Adam presenting at V*M*A" on Vimeo vimeo.com/73250606 #Vimeo I guess I'm out of it but I don't see a messed up thank you speech or a weird look on Adam'a face. He looked at Emile at one point and they smiled. Don't get what people are saying.
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Post by mszue on Aug 27, 2013 18:42:03 GMT -5
Skylar....as usual, you said it perfectly!
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Post by 4Ms on Aug 27, 2013 18:45:14 GMT -5
Skylar....as usual, you said it perfectly! Ditto. A+
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Post by wal on Aug 27, 2013 18:56:30 GMT -5
Yahoo! Music @yahoomusic Miley Cyrus' VMAs performance defended by Adam Lambert: 'Cut Her Some Slack' yhoo.it/17dQEqhBy Tim Kenneally LOS ANGELES (TheWrap.com) - Don't worry, Miley Cyrus: the media might be dragging you over the coals for your raunchy MTV Video Music Awards performance on Sunday, but you have a friend in Adam Lambert. The "American Idol" favorite provided what was seemingly the lone pro-Miley voice on the Internet, jumping into white-knight mode and declaring via his Twitter account, "Cut her some slack." Lambert's defense of Cyrus' performance - which included liberal amount of twerking and a bawdy display featuring Robin Thicke, a foam finger, and Cyrus' wagging tongue - began with a tweet asking why everyone was "spazzing" about the segment. "And listen if it wasn't ur cup of tea - all good but why is everyone spazzing? Hey - she's doin something right. We all talkin." — Adam Lambert (@adamlambert) August 27, 2013 He later clarified that he wasn't necessarily a fan of the performance - just that people should allow Miley to be Miley. "Hold up! I didn't actually state whether or not I liked @mileycyrus performance. I merely said she was having fun and to cut her some slack," Lambert noted. "Whew folks are all heated bout this. Hilarious. I can't help it that I'm a contrarian - just another healthy debate." "Whataya Want From Me" singer Lambert, of course, is no stranger to controversial performances himself - he raised eyebrows at the American Music Awards in 2009, when he kissed his male keyboard player. While Lambert may be providing a sympathetic stance for Cyrus, the "Can't Be Tamed" singer has been catching heat from most other corners, including MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski - who's called for MTV executives to be fired over the incident - to Robin Thicke's mother, Gloria Loring, who criticized Cyrus as "misbegotten."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 18:57:58 GMT -5
Great Skylar. Never thought of it that way. It wasn't the action on the stage or what that represented but the look on his face. I remember thinking I would never want him to be mad at me!!!
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Post by wal on Aug 27, 2013 19:01:06 GMT -5
accidentally tragic @binkleywtf entertainment tonight just mentioned adam supporting miley on twitter lol
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Post by Avari on Aug 27, 2013 19:02:39 GMT -5
I have to weigh in on the AMA fall out. At the time I remember feeling absolutely sick to my stomach. It didn't seem like Adam with such aggression. Still naive to the whole music business, I had hopes that this performance would make fans of everyone watching. This was to be his big break and I thought he had ruined everything! But the way he handled himself in the aftermath earned my respect and admiration. My AVI is even from that time! In hindsight I think it was more positive than negative. It moved him some what out of the Idol bubble and gained him overseas fans. This was my reaction too. I was literally sick. I was watching live as well as being logged in to ONTD-AI, and I remember hearing the first note on TV and thinking "that doesn't sound good!" Then I flipped the TV off and continued to watch the comments stream by, and they simply made me more upset. These were all Adam fans, and were posting things like "uh oh", " Oh NO!!", "OMG did he fall?!?", "did he just kiss Tommy?"...you can imagine. I threw up, honestly. Then went to bed and actively avoided all online media for three days, I was so terrified to face what I thought was the end of his career. And guess what? He not only survived, he thrived. I am sure it hurt him professionally, but he grew as a person and I think the experience has served him well. But I have still never watched the whole performance.
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