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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 12:54:06 GMT -5
I am all for the support of straight people in the LGBT movement. What annoys me is that it seems straight people get more credit and awards for their support than gay people get for their in-the-trenches work for gay rights. It's a lot easier to make statements when you're a member of a group that isn't marginalized or discriminated against. As a straight person, I know darned well that my willingness to speak out does not even come close to being as brave as a gay person's willingness to be out. Although IMHO you are right this is not always the truth - from my experience a straight person who is involved in LGBT movement can be in some work environments, communities or circumstances as easily ostracized as gay people. Suddenly you are not one of "us" anymore, you are one of "them". Especially if you are a part of small, local community. but that straight person can step outside the movement at any time if it gets to be too hard for them. A gay person doesn't have that option. |
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Post by adamrocks on Aug 29, 2013 12:54:53 GMT -5
drive by post: Q3 I think you may have missed the entire point of that article. Raj isn't denying the impact of Same Love or even saying that it's undeserving of the success or awards. Rather what he's saying is that mainstream media/radio is willing to make a straight artist a hero of the LGBT community while all but ignoring ACTUAL gay artists who put out songs which speak right to the heart and soul of their struggle. I love the song Same Love. I love it's message and social commentary but I was put off when Jennifer Hudson stepped out to join in the chorus. Why her? Did they need to add another straight artist to this song to upstage Mary Lambert? I agreed with the writer in asking why not ask Adam? He was there already and him singing "My love HE keeps me warm" in unison with Mary Lambert singing "my love SHE keeps me warm" would have been extremely powerful. IMO this article is speaking to the very real and very frustrating fact that straight artists can sing about LGBT issues and get massive radio play but gay artists can't sing about LGBT issues and get the same opportunities. ...so glad you joined us!  |
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Post by nonchallance on Aug 29, 2013 13:10:24 GMT -5
Although IMHO you are right this is not always the truth - from my experience a straight person who is involved in LGBT movement can be in some work environments, communities or circumstances as easily ostracized as gay people. Suddenly you are not one of "us" anymore, you are one of "them". Especially if you are a part of small, local community. but that straight person can step outside the movement at any time if it gets to be too hard for them. A gay person doesn't have that option. Yes, you are right, but is this really that easy for a good man who think that his beliefs are right and whom friends are gay to step aside and tell "I don't care anymore"? |
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Post by 4Ms on Aug 29, 2013 13:11:47 GMT -5
For anyone saving the Rolling Stone scan, I've added the banner. |
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Post by bullsfan on Aug 29, 2013 13:21:09 GMT -5
Regarding Macklemore and Same Love, IMO radio was open to the song because Macklemore is just about the hottest guy in music right now. He's got the cover of RS and just epitomizes "cool." Following Thrift Shop and Can't Hold Us, the timing was just about perfect for anything he wanted to release. Radio couldn't ignore Same Love. And that's what Adam is missing---a radio smash (or two) which breaks down all doors.
eta---Don't get me started on Jennifer Hudson's "take-over" at the end of that performance. Kind of an insult to Mary Lambert, imo.
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Post by coo.coo.ca.choo on Aug 29, 2013 13:34:08 GMT -5
For anyone saving the Rolling Stone scan, I've added the banner. Shallow end -- Avicii has quite a nice profile also. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 13:36:43 GMT -5
Apparently, he has a whole website dedicated to his nose!!
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Post by butterfly on Aug 29, 2013 13:37:28 GMT -5
but that straight person can step outside the movement at any time if it gets to be too hard for them. A gay person doesn't have that option. ![]() glitter!! |
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Post by adamrocks on Aug 29, 2013 13:38:51 GMT -5
I think what bothers me is someone like Katy Perry, a straight cute pop artist, can sing song lyrics like 'I kissed a girl and I liked it' and it is deemed 'cute and fun' and gets played on radio all the &^%$#*% time and helps launch her to big time 'pop star status'. Adam, a gorgeous out and proud amazing gay artist, has a 'cute and fun' song that has the lyrics 'There HE goes my baby walk so slow' in it and he can't even get his record company, much less radio, to endorse it. Why....IMHO...because he is a gay male artist. I'm betting if Katy had put out Fever it would have been played all the time on radio and been a big hit. Adam has such an uphill battle to fight every friggin day!  This is all my opinion, of course. |
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Post by restless on Aug 29, 2013 13:42:58 GMT -5
Great thoughts being expressed here! I have to echo the sentiments of mys*&@^#r, murly, glitter and melliemom.
We are making progress, I guess. I often visualize the men in the back rooms rubbing there hands together. Oooo. We can get GLAADs nod of approval and feature lbgt characters. Lesbians making out! girl on girl. yes!
Gaga the bi chick-cool. And a straight white rapper who says in song he thinks he might be gay because he keeps his room straight and can draw, but remembers he is good at little league. what? Oh but he has the Gay Uncle. Ack. And there is the lesbian singing backup. legit.
Boy George summed it up in a tweet. When I hear real gay men sing about their own plight or experience and see male characters on tv demonstrating their love or lust in the same way I see the gals on the other shows doing it, I know we will have made it.
mys*&@^#r don't apologize for your bluntness! Because that is what IT really boils down to.
ASAP Rocky's body language and word choice after Jason Collins struggled with his little speech while introducing Macklemore reflected what I think is still a prevalent attitude. (waving away the "ho-mo-sex-u-ality")
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