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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 11:42:48 GMT -5
Glampoon, you are a perfect example of someone who we know only what matters about! Hope you are learning that the rest is just fluff. 
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 11:46:38 GMT -5
Cameron Kelsall @clever_redux20m #TheSoundOfMusicLive ratings off the charts. So...more musicals on prime time TV, okay? You can have my Miley Sweeney Todd idea for free. The AV Club @theavclub41m Review: Carrie Underwood falls flat in #TheSoundOfMusicLive, but there's hope for the future of musicals on TV avc.lu/IVqkri Jennifer Scott @lotsofscotts3h RE all of the heckling during #TheSoundOfMusicLive I am reminded that it takes courage to do anything in the public eye these days. Here is my hope and a little different take, repeating from yesterday. The show trended, reviews weren’t all bad, and some even liked it. While I thought the acting in general was bad with even a seasoned actor like the Vampire being stiff, it may have as much to do with the director as with the actors themselves. The production was, IMHO, at community theater level and where the hell was the gazebo? The costuming was mediocre at best. Look at Maria’s honeymoon suit, it didn’t even fit! No chemistry between the leads (was she afraid of being bitten?) Singing? Well I will leave it at thank Ra for Audra McDonald. In their duet it was like Audra was schooling Carrie. No comparison in my mind. I could go on, but and for me this is the big one, perhaps this show gives hope for more music on TV. Once a genre is broken others who do not wish to think follow what has garnered interest. Realty TV anyone? Perhaps something wondrous will come of this. I hate to suggest musical variety, because you know what will happen with that! More musicals with better directing, acting and sets. Point of this post? ADAM as Judas. (Or his choice of roles.) Musical theater brought to TV. Megan Hilty or her counterparts? It has happened before it could happen again!! |
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Post by shimoli710 on Dec 6, 2013 11:52:52 GMT -5
This is how I understand that twit-longer massage too. It's so sad. Poor Aleksandra. :( But I don't have a clue how to help her.  I don't know how to help either, but I am thinking messages of support can't hurt... I DMed Alex, hope she has internet access soon...One obviously needs thick skin to "survive" online, too many psychos out there.... I tweeted her just a short tweet sending hugs after I'd read her message. Yes, I think messages of support is something we all can do and maybe it helps her to feel better. |
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Post by 4Ms on Dec 6, 2013 11:53:50 GMT -5
DECEMBER 6, 2013 08:07 AM PST
Ratings: NBC's Sound of Music Live! Does Something Very Good
Matt Webb Mitovich
tvline.com/2013/12/06/sound-of-music-live-ratings-nbc/
How do you solve a problem like a boorish, overly snarky Twitter feed? By hushing the haters with huge numbers.
Facing off against 100-percent original broadcast competition throughout its entire three-hour run, NBC’s The Sound of Music Live! on Thursday night put 18.5 million total bums in the seats (as they say on Broadway), while scoring a 4.6 rating.
That marks NBC’s largest non-sports Thursday audience since May 2004 (when Frasier’s finale night averaged 22.6 mil) and the network best non-sports Thursday demo number since the April 2009 ER finale (5.2).
Save for its opening half-hour against the always formidable Big Bang Theory, SOML at least doubled the total audience of the night’s 11 other broadcast programs.
TVLine readers meanwhile gave the production an average grade of “B-.”
NBC notes that, unsurprisingly, the top local market among the metered market households came from Oklahoma City, in female lead Carrie Underwood’s home state.
In other words, the countdown until NBC greenlights Taylor Swift’s Evita Live! starts now.
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Post by seoulmate on Dec 6, 2013 11:59:01 GMT -5
Juniemoon, thank you for the Art Garfunkel this morning. I hope Aleks and everyone else that needs the song today will benefit. I have a twitter account, but don't tweet, so anyone who does, please let her know I am sending positive thoughts her way. She richly deserves them! Yes, please... I don't do twitter, so if y'all could relay my support and love to aleks via twitter I'd really appreciate it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 12:05:52 GMT -5
Did you watch the telecast Cassie? I only ask because I did and I thought it was quite lovely. Carrie did more than "just show up". Is she the best actress, of course since she's not an actress. However, she was genuine and sincere in her performance and truly gave an air of quiet innocence to the role of Maria. As for her voice, it was sublime. Carrie has a magnificent gift and it was on full display during the telecast last night. It's interesting to see you say Carrie should stick to what she does best considering people have said the same thing about Adam when it comes to his role on Glee and/or fronting Queen as well as other outside projects. I'd hate for Adam (or any artist) to give up an opportunity for personal or professional fullfillment/growth simply because it might not be what they are best at. As human beings and as artists people need to be free to explore themselves fully without people trying to force them back into their boxes. Crii Yes, I watched the last 2 hours of the program. I am glad that you enjoyed it, and enjoyed Carrie's performance. Great. There are many others who watched and agree with you. Perhaps many more than agree with me. I did not enjoy the performance. You wrote that you do not expect her to be the "best actress since she's not an actress." I have different expectations. If someone takes on a role in a prime-time, nationally televised, huge, multi-million dollar production, I expect that person to be a frickin' awesome actress. To your ear, her voice was "sublime." To my ear, her technique, approach and tone were all wrong for a classic musical like The Sound of Music. The sound of her voice works wonderfully for country. For a live musical, it was out of place. IMO. Based on my experience performing in and watching musical theater since I was five years old. I agree with you that I should not have said Carrie should stick to what she does best. Everyone has the right to try anything they want provided they don't hurt other people doing it. If someone wants to try taking on the lead in a highly visible, highly touted, highly expensive production, and others are willing to support and promote it, I say "go for it." That's what my remote control is for. I kept thinking "I should turn this off. I am not enjoying this." But, I kept watching. My fault. I accept the responsibility. Am I to understand that you think Carrie should have turned down this role? It would seem the production company, network and others involved thought Carrie was perfect for the role which is why they cast her. I suppose some would say it was stunt casting to draw in viewers and that's never a good idea, especially with a classic such as The Sound of Music but if it introduced a new generation to this musicial who will now seek out the movie with Julie Andrews so much the better IMO. As for Carrie's voice I did not detect even a hint of country last night, which was impressive and surprising considering how far out of her zone those songs are. Interestingly, every critique I've read praises Carrie's voice even if they say her acting wasn't up to par. |
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Post by haribert on Dec 6, 2013 12:06:46 GMT -5
We (people in general) would all get more pleasure from entertainment if we could bring ourselves to drop our obsession with rankings -- who's the best at singing, writing, acting, who's the best-looking celebrity, etc. Rankings are based on our **personal** (key word here) preferences. It really is possible to enjoy watching and/or listening to multiple artists and appreciate each one individually for the unique combination of emotional context, style, tone, etc. each person brings to the table. For example, Adam's version of WWTLF touches me in a way that Freddie's version never has -- but I still consider Freddie's version a must-listen classic.
When I hear a new cover of a song popularized by someone else, I ask myself two things: did the singer interpret the song well and deliver good voice, and did hearing it give me positive feelings?
Related point: I've been listening to a lot of holiday music lately, which means that I've been hearing many different voices cover pretty much the same group of traditional tunes. Funny, but with a few exceptions where an artist is closely tied to a song (like maybe Bing Crosby doing "White Christmas" or John Lennon with "Happy Xmas/War Is Over"), we never see debates over whether Katy Perry or Andrea Bocelli or Taylor Swift or Michael Buble did the best job covering a carol like "O Come All Ye Faithful." Maybe that's because traditional songs like Christmas carols are so deep a part of our culture that the songs transcend the singers? Could be.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 12:20:07 GMT -5
You're talking about Freddie the legend, not Freddie the singer. Yes, there will always be only one Freddie Mercury, but there will also be only one Adam Lambert, and Adam Lambert is an amazing singer. It's legitimate to compare the specific criteria that define good singers--range, control, pitch, versatility, among others--and conclude that Adam is a better singer. Anyone has the right to prefer Freddie Mercury, but that doesn't necessarily make him the better singer. Unless they follow a different criteria for what a "good singer" is, and even then most people don't really analyse why they like a voice. Affecting your audience with emotional or theatrical delivery for example is just as much of an ability as something like control or pitch imo. Singing just isn't very quantifiable or objective like that. imo again. Interesting discussion going on in this thread tho  |
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Post by dontshakemytree on Dec 6, 2013 12:22:54 GMT -5
*Smilies not working so pretend hysterical laugh here;)
Just got an Adam Google alert email.....and the first 4 articles in the list are about a CHEF named Adam Lambert in Ohio and his amazing recipes for chicken and pizza! Bahahahahahahaha! And to make it even funnier, I read the comments on the first article ....and they all appear to think they are responding to a story on OUR Adam!! Are they leaving comments without even reading the article!?! *Insert another funny face here!
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Post by Q3 on Dec 6, 2013 12:25:49 GMT -5
Murly: "It's legitimate to compare the specific criteria that define good singers--range, control, pitch, versatility, among others--and conclude that Adam is a better singer." Using your system....which I do not think is an adequate measure since it excludes the emotional component.... I do not think it is an Adam win -- for me it is a tie. I personally love them both and will not choose a "better" one. They have different strengths. I added Clarity, Timbre/Color and Tessitura. >> One thing that makes them so different for me is the difference in vocal weight -- Adam's voice is lighter, brighter and more agile; Freddie is more dramatic, powerful and darker. They both seem similarly rich to me -- with so much depth. This is one reason why Adam can bring something new to the Queen catalog -- WWTLF. I have 7 attributes and score it Freddie 2 Adam 3 Tie 3. Looks like a tie to me because a couple could have gone either way. Range - Freddie - recorded vocal range G♯1-A6. I this the G♯1 could be debated based on quality but it is there. But I heard his whistle notes live and they are real. He used it like a guitar in concert. Here is one of the range sample videos. www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5vTjdOTMGEControl - Tie. I do not know how to pick a winner, but I would lean toward Freddie. I heard him improvise in 1974, no instruments, no cue, all perfect notes. Perhaps 3 minutes long. It was like his voice was a whole range of instruments. I am calling this a tie because it is so close. Pitch - Adam. Hard for me to pick because it depends the day/performance -- both are amazing. But I will give this to Adam. Clarity - Adam. Most rock purists and classic rock fans count this as a negative -- Adam has no "grit" when he sings and he has a theatrical/classic style of singing. And he freely imports classical singing techniques into rock songs. Tessitura - Adam wins this for me because of the speed he can make pitch changes. It is a very distinctive strength that is hard for most singers and Adam seems to do it without effort. Because he does it so fluidly, I think most casual fans do not even notice what he has done. Timbre/Color - Tie. I can't pick. They are both superlative. Power - Freddie. In the upper register, Adam wins but across the board Freddie wins. I call this for Freddie because I have seen both singers live and Freddie had so much Power -- and complete control over the vocal levels -- it was astonishing. Versatility - Tie. This might lean a bit Freddie today -- but I think it is a tie. I assume everyone here knows how versatile Adam is. If you do not think Freddie is versatile, check out early Queen music and Freddie's non-Queen music. His personal catalog in enormous. Here are a few samples. But there are dance and disco tracks, prog rock, alt rock, ballads, vaudeville and show tunes, light opera, classic rock, R&B, Rock and Roll, Blues and Jazz, and more. Here are a few samples: Metal - London 1974 www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScEWZv3_0hU&feature=share&list=PL7D52CDD608DDE2DD&index=5Rock & Roll - London 1973 youtu.be/dR97xyvADYoRock Ballads - Under Pressure 1981 www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_IhiEUp2bQThe Great Pretender 1987 youtu.be/mLRjFWDGs1gFreddie Mercury & Montserrat Caballé - 1988 www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPizyP4x30IHere is a YT of the Barcelona DVD 1988 www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9vNiQ4AdJ8 |
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