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Post by wannabethesnake on Dec 7, 2013 14:20:57 GMT -5
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Post by nica575 on Dec 7, 2013 14:24:17 GMT -5
Talon, thanks so much for your post. Agree with everything. I love Freddie's tone "more" than Adam's but love Adam's voice in all its alchemy. I'm just sorry I wasn't around to see them live in their heyday. The LIVE aid vid still gives me chills. I think it's pretty darn amazing that Adam can fill in as frontman and still be his own man. That speaks volume about his confidence as well as humility. And add seeing that amazing band with them, it's all win win. I have no desire to see Queen Extravaganza (and not dissing them, it's cool they're handpicked) but would rather see QAL. Fingers crossed for a few US dates. I hope Adam gets a good writing partner. The Avicii collab was great. The next great DJ should be looking at Adam. LMD is really wonderful. I wonder if Adam's finances are low? All those boots cost a lot and that house used to rent for over $10,000 a month if RS is to be believed. I thought the apt move was to downsize and be smart? I think Adam looks kind of scuzzy right now but not in a bad way... Whoever posted that HD Kiev vid, thanks! Can't find it again. $120,000/per year is what he possibly makes for one performance. yup...and as far as I remember the apt. was even less than the previous house , only about 7K/month...I remember being surprised at how low the rent was... so.. my dream is: Adam is planning to tour extensively and does not need his own place for the next year... I know I am being super selfish ![]() |
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Post by murly on Dec 7, 2013 14:24:27 GMT -5
Nobody is considered legendary after five years. Nobody. Freddie may have had more recognition at that point in his career, but he wasn't considered legendary. And let's be honest--dying young always helps cement a "legendary" status. It doesn't make sense to compare the career of someone who came into the public's awareness in 2008 and someone who began his career over forty years ago and has been dead for twenty-three years.
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Post by melliemom on Dec 7, 2013 14:25:09 GMT -5
Well we have to agree to disagree. Songwriting comes into play because I think of the overall package and of staying power and of recogntion. Placido Domingo has worlds of classical pieces written by some of the greatest composers in the world to sing. Adam has been getting mostly (and don't flay me here) forgettable electro pop. Don't get me wrong, they are sometimes catchy, and they are sometimes fun but if anyone else sang them, would you guys really dig the songs? He's not getting great songs to sing. Freddie being a songwriter takes care of that distinction. Not that Freddie didn't cover anyone - The Great Pretender was friggin awesome. His work on Time was phenomenal...but Freddie didn't have to rely on someone to write him a song that will be remembered. He did it himself. To me that's partially where the discussion changes. It's not just Adam vs Freddie as a singer but it's Adam vs Freddie as a musical icon. As far as pure singing, see it still is subjective as I think that Freddie is still a superior singer. Adam has a better high range, although Freddie has more of a range. I believe Freddie is also more powerful overall, and I think Freddie has a more crisp, cutting tone. Again subjective though. I don't mind you thinking otherwise  Yeah,yeah but could Freddie ACT? did he do Broadway type shows.. ? was he gorgeous? I again rest my case.. So who is the better overall showman?? plus having a great voice and magnetism galore.. bring it on Talon.  |
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Post by wannabethesnake on Dec 7, 2013 14:28:52 GMT -5
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Post by talon on Dec 7, 2013 14:32:28 GMT -5
Nobody is considered legendary after five years. Nobody. Freddie may have had more recognition at that point in his career, but he wasn't considered legendary. And let's be honest--dying young always helps cement a "legendary" status. It doesn't make sense to compare the career of someone who came into the public's awareness in 2008 and someone who began his career over forty years ago and has been dead for twenty-three years. I agree which is why I usually don't compare But as it was being discussed I think it's a point that is extremely valid. It's in baseball - comparing a rookie of the year with a hall of famer. The rookie could be amazing, and we'll see where he is later on in his career. No Freddie was not legendary at that point either although in 1977 Bo Rap did win BEST SINGLE OF THE LAST 25 YEARS which was quite an accomplishment - close to legendary. Yes dying young helps cement legendary status, but let's also face it that if Freddie didn't die, how much more would he have done over the last twenty years to further cement it as well? Ok so you win .. now what?  I DID?!?!?!?!  What do I win?! I wasn't going for a win, just giving different perspectives. |
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Post by talon on Dec 7, 2013 14:34:50 GMT -5
Yeah,yeah but could Freddie ACT? did he do Broadway type shows.. ? was he gorgeous? I again rest my case.. So who is the better overall showman?? plus having a great voice and magnetism galore.. bring it on Talon. I don't know about acting. He never really wanted to. He was on the West End for a charity performance and Andrew Lloyd Weber wanted him as the Phantom of the Opera but he never wanted to act...*shrug* who knows. Was he gorgeous? Well he's not my type but back in the day he was winning sexiest frontman polls, etc. Same with Best frontman, etc. I'm sorry you don't think Freddie had magnetism or a great voice :( But you are certainly entitled to your opinion as well! |
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Post by LindaG23 on Dec 7, 2013 14:37:01 GMT -5
$120,000/per year is what he possibly makes for one performance. yup...and as far as I remember the apt. was even less than the previous house , only about 7K/month...I remember being surprised at how low the rent was... so.. my dream is: Adam is planning to tour extensively and does not need his own place for the next year... I know I am being super selfish ![]() Maybe he is being a true millennial and moving back in with Mom or Dad while he gets his shit together, I mean planning to tour extensively. PS. Lol, just kidding (I crack myself up sometimes). PPS. He did live in a hotel once before preparing for FYE and subsequent tour. |
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Post by murly on Dec 7, 2013 14:39:08 GMT -5
Nobody is considered legendary after five years. Nobody. Freddie may have had more recognition at that point in his career, but he wasn't considered legendary. And let's be honest--dying young always helps cement a "legendary" status. It doesn't make sense to compare the career of someone who came into the public's awareness in 2008 and someone who began his career over forty years ago and has been dead for twenty-three years. I agree which is why I usually don't compare But as it was being discussed I think it's a point that is extremely valid. I felt that what was being discussed and compared were their voices, not their careers. It's like comparing Jennifer Lawrence to Katharine Hepburn. Of course Lawrence's career is eclipsed by Hepburn's. Of course Hepburn is a legend and Lawrence is not. But I think someone could make a valid argument that Lawrence is a better actor than Hepburn was. Others may disagree, but comparing acting ability is valid at this point while comparing entire careers is not. |
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Post by talon on Dec 7, 2013 14:41:00 GMT -5
I agree which is why I usually don't compare But as it was being discussed I think it's a point that is extremely valid. I felt that what was being discussed and compared were their voices, not their careers. It's like comparing Jennifer Lawrence to Katharine Hepburn. Of course Lawrence's career is eclipsed by Hepburn's. Of course Hepburn is a legend and Lawrence is not. But I think someone could make a valid argument that Lawrence is a better actor than Hepburn was. Others may disagree, but comparing acting ability is valid at this point while comparing entire careers is not. That's a fair point...it does get a bit murky if only because to me the material sung thus far IS important to the discussion. But it may not be to others and that is fair game for them Hepburn>Lawrence so far too |
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