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Post by melliemom on Feb 9, 2014 21:02:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2014 21:05:22 GMT -5
Gotta love this thread..we've gone from major discussion about Adam's look to orgasms and quivering virgins..OMG..I'm gonna bust a gut, I just know it..who says we can't turn this place on a dime? As Bridgeymah says... #carrymeoff...did I get that right???
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Post by stardust on Feb 9, 2014 21:18:37 GMT -5
I am thrilled about Melissa Ethridge and Adam together! She is the real deal and someone I totally respect! Not everyone today would get the collaboration with someone who is no longer the top billed star but Adam's view is far bigger than that and his respect for real musicians is one of the things I love about him. #rockandroll But I have to say, coming here to flail leaves me with a sour taste today. I love how we can discuss the ways of the fandom and all but I would just like to point out that while there are two sides to the discussion here today, only one side is implying the other is in some way wrong--"depressing", "disrespectful" to Adam, "nitpicking", somehow hurtful to Adam, and "the kind of person who"... I may not care for this present haircut and I may acknowledge that Adam is insecure about his looks (as he has said many a time) but that does not mean I love him, his appearance, or anything else about him less than anyone else who chooses to talk about only half of how they, or Adam, feel.
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Post by dontshakemytree on Feb 9, 2014 21:23:12 GMT -5
Watching Olympics....men's downhill skiing....almost everybody has a Melvin!!! ETA: thankful we don't have Remington or Schick stock!
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Post by counselor on Feb 9, 2014 21:24:20 GMT -5
To add to what Jomama2 and SophieB emphasized: I think Adam wore makeup to cover his freckles. He wears gloves to cover his hand freckles. His sleeve tattoo covers his freckles. Melvin covers freckles. I think Adam is now much more comfortable with his natural appearance and it has improved his self-confidence. His choice of shoes that raise his height may mean he is a little insecure about his height. It all comes down to one simple point - he's our chosen "freak" and we love him perfectly as he was, as he is, and as he will be in the future.
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Post by libralamb7pf on Feb 9, 2014 21:31:09 GMT -5
Count me on team-AFL-can-do-anything-he-wants-and-look-any-way-he-wants. I'll take this gorgeous man however I can get him, and he was absolutely STUNNING last night. I can, also, listen to any song of his a hundred times because he will always make it sound new and fresh and my old ears will quiver like innocent virgins being touched for the first time by his amazing...erm...INSTRUMENT. I honestly cannot find fault with him and never feel the urge to criticize any of his choices--not even the jaw-dropping face/crotch thrust and kiss felt round the world! He FASCINATES me. He can eat crackers in my bed any time sporting a full beard with the frankingump haircut while wearing the Elmo coat and aqua board shorts! Adam had me at "Mama" and I've been on the ride of my life ever since and plan to hang on for every twist and turn to come. That's why I must take a small exception to the sentiment that Adam "got off on the wrong foot and is just now discovering who he is and expressing his true self and now realizes he only needs his voice"....uh...stuff. Adam Lambert has known who he "is" for a very long time. Zodiac Show, anyone? He stormed the most popular television show of his time and made it his BITCH! The Idol tour shoulda been called, "An Evening With Adam Lambert and Friends". The album, "For Your Entertainment", was his biggest seller producing his only radio hits and a Grammy nomination. It, also, produced his only official world wide tour that sold out venues and won him critical acclaim. He has said repeatedly that he was allowed massive freedom while compiling this album in a short period of time and had some of the biggest names in the business working with him. The tour was his baby showcasing his tremendous talent, creativity, and showmanship. IMHO, it was theatrical performance art at it's best. The fun and excitement of the Glam Nation Tour experience and the friends I made at the time will always be some of my best memories. To be honest...I miss the sensual energy and edgy originality of that time period. And, yes, through it all the voice was sublime. It still is. It seems to be even better in fact.
So....to state he is just "now" finding himself does not compute. Is he changing? Apparently. Hell, I'm still changing and growing as a person even at my advanced age. He is still a young man and we have had the privilege of watching him evolve over the last five years. I feel in my bones the best is yet to come. Is it because he is getting better advice and direction? I doubt it. Adam strikes me as a man who knows his own mind and capabilities and is in firm control of his own career and life course. His hair, clothes, acting, and musical choices are all an expression of his drive to create. The fact that they are always changing is what makes him so interesting to follow. He has a tremendous voice and is a wonderful interpreter of songs without a doubt. But, he is so much more than that. He is a performer. He is an entertainer. He is an artist to the core. And HE was--and is--in charge.
THIS! Count me IN! ETA: watching The Beatles Tribute reminds me of that intense excitement I felt of first seeing The Beatles on my PawPaw's teeny TV screen on Ed Sullivan Show in 1964 is same as I felt seeing AFL on American Idol in 2009. Guess he brings out the hopeful, romantic teenager that I still am in my heart.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2014 21:37:48 GMT -5
Count me on team-AFL-can-do-anything-he-wants-and-look-any-way-he-wants. I'll take this gorgeous man however I can get him, and he was absolutely STUNNING last night. I can, also, listen to any song of his a hundred times because he will always make it sound new and fresh and my old ears will quiver like innocent virgins being touched for the first time by his amazing...erm...INSTRUMENT. I honestly cannot find fault with him and never feel the urge to criticize any of his choices--not even the jaw-dropping face/crotch thrust and kiss felt round the world! He FASCINATES me. He can eat crackers in my bed any time sporting a full beard with the frankingump haircut while wearing the Elmo coat and aqua board shorts! Adam had me at "Mama" and I've been on the ride of my life ever since and plan to hang on for every twist and turn to come. That's why I must take a small exception to the sentiment that Adam "got off on the wrong foot and is just now discovering who he is and expressing his true self and now realizes he only needs his voice"....uh...stuff. Adam Lambert has known who he "is" for a very long time. Zodiac Show, anyone? He stormed the most popular television show of his time and made it his BITCH! The Idol tour shoulda been called, "An Evening With Adam Lambert and Friends". The album, "For Your Entertainment", was his biggest seller producing his only radio hits and a Grammy nomination. It, also, produced his only official world wide tour that sold out venues and won him critical acclaim. He has said repeatedly that he was allowed massive freedom while compiling this album in a short period of time and had some of the biggest names in the business working with him. The tour was his baby showcasing his tremendous talent, creativity, and showmanship. IMHO, it was theatrical performance art at it's best. The fun and excitement of the Glam Nation Tour experience and the friends I made at the time will always be some of my best memories. To be honest...I miss the sensual energy and edgy originality of that time period. And, yes, through it all the voice was sublime. It still is. It seems to be even better in fact.
So....to state he is just "now" finding himself does not compute. Is he changing? Apparently. Hell, I'm still changing and growing as a person even at my advanced age. He is still a young man and we have had the privilege of watching him evolve over the last five years. I feel in my bones the best is yet to come. Is it because he is getting better advice and direction? I doubt it. Adam strikes me as a man who knows his own mind and capabilities and is in firm control of his own career and life course. His hair, clothes, acting, and musical choices are all an expression of his drive to create. The fact that they are always changing is what makes him so interesting to follow. He has a tremendous voice and is a wonderful interpreter of songs without a doubt. But, he is so much more than that. He is a performer. He is an entertainer. He is an artist to the core. And HE was--and is--in charge.
OMG!! I think YOU just gave me an orgasm! Best thing I've read in days!! I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! ^^ Hell ya! ^^ ETA: Please post more often!
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Post by nica575 on Feb 9, 2014 21:48:56 GMT -5
Count me on team-AFL-can-do-anything-he-wants-and-look-any-way-he-wants. I'll take this gorgeous man however I can get him, and he was absolutely STUNNING last night. I can, also, listen to any song of his a hundred times because he will always make it sound new and fresh and my old ears will quiver like innocent virgins being touched for the first time by his amazing...erm...INSTRUMENT. I honestly cannot find fault with him and never feel the urge to criticize any of his choices--not even the jaw-dropping face/crotch thrust and kiss felt round the world! He FASCINATES me. He can eat crackers in my bed any time sporting a full beard with the frankingump haircut while wearing the Elmo coat and aqua board shorts! Adam had me at "Mama" and I've been on the ride of my life ever since and plan to hang on for every twist and turn to come. That's why I must take a small exception to the sentiment that Adam "got off on the wrong foot and is just now discovering who he is and expressing his true self and now realizes he only needs his voice"....uh...stuff. Adam Lambert has known who he "is" for a very long time. Zodiac Show, anyone? He stormed the most popular television show of his time and made it his BITCH! The Idol tour shoulda been called, "An Evening With Adam Lambert and Friends". The album, "For Your Entertainment", was his biggest seller producing his only radio hits and a Grammy nomination. It, also, produced his only official world wide tour that sold out venues and won him critical acclaim. He has said repeatedly that he was allowed massive freedom while compiling this album in a short period of time and had some of the biggest names in the business working with him. The tour was his baby showcasing his tremendous talent, creativity, and showmanship. IMHO, it was theatrical performance art at it's best. The fun and excitement of the Glam Nation Tour experience and the friends I made at the time will always be some of my best memories. To be honest...I miss the sensual energy and edgy originality of that time period. And, yes, through it all the voice was sublime. It still is. It seems to be even better in fact.
So....to state he is just "now" finding himself does not compute. Is he changing? Apparently. Hell, I'm still changing and growing as a person even at my advanced age. He is still a young man and we have had the privilege of watching him evolve over the last five years. I feel in my bones the best is yet to come. Is it because he is getting better advice and direction? I doubt it. Adam strikes me as a man who knows his own mind and capabilities and is in firm control of his own career and life course. His hair, clothes, acting, and musical choices are all an expression of his drive to create. The fact that they are always changing is what makes him so interesting to follow. He has a tremendous voice and is a wonderful interpreter of songs without a doubt. But, he is so much more than that. He is a performer. He is an entertainer. He is an artist to the core. And HE was--and is--in charge.
THIS! Count me IN! ETA: watching The Beatles Tribute reminds me of that intense excitement I felt of first seeing The Beatles on my PawPaw's teeny TV screen on Ed Sullivan Show in 1964 is same as I felt seeing AFL on American Idol in 2009. Guess he brings out the hopeful, romantic teenager that I still am in my heart. wannabethesnake - I nominate this post for the best of the day! Agree with every word with one exception: "I honestly cannot find fault with him and never feel the urge to criticize any of his choices-- not even the jaw-dropping face/crotch thrust and kiss felt round the world!" I would change that to " ESPECIALLY the jaw-dropping..." . THAT performance, the thrust, the kiss were the BEST OF ADAM! Ahead of the times! Made him the international star!
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Post by melliemom on Feb 9, 2014 21:49:30 GMT -5
Count me on team-AFL-can-do-anything-he-wants-and-look-any-way-he-wants. I'll take this gorgeous man however I can get him, and he was absolutely STUNNING last night. I can, also, listen to any song of his a hundred times because he will always make it sound new and fresh and my old ears will quiver like innocent virgins being touched for the first time by his amazing...erm...INSTRUMENT. I honestly cannot find fault with him and never feel the urge to criticize any of his choices--not even the jaw-dropping face/crotch thrust and kiss felt round the world! He FASCINATES me. He can eat crackers in my bed any time sporting a full beard with the frankingump haircut while wearing the Elmo coat and aqua board shorts! Adam had me at "Mama" and I've been on the ride of my life ever since and plan to hang on for every twist and turn to come. That's why I must take a small exception to the sentiment that Adam "got off on the wrong foot and is just now discovering who he is and expressing his true self and now realizes he only needs his voice"....uh...stuff. Adam Lambert has known who he "is" for a very long time. Zodiac Show, anyone? He stormed the most popular television show of his time and made it his BITCH! The Idol tour shoulda been called, "An Evening With Adam Lambert and Friends". The album, "For Your Entertainment", was his biggest seller producing his only radio hits and a Grammy nomination. It, also, produced his only official world wide tour that sold out venues and won him critical acclaim. He has said repeatedly that he was allowed massive freedom while compiling this album in a short period of time and had some of the biggest names in the business working with him. The tour was his baby showcasing his tremendous talent, creativity, and showmanship. IMHO, it was theatrical performance art at it's best. The fun and excitement of the Glam Nation Tour experience and the friends I made at the time will always be some of my best memories. To be honest...I miss the sensual energy and edgy originality of that time period. And, yes, through it all the voice was sublime. It still is. It seems to be even better in fact.
So....to state he is just "now" finding himself does not compute. Is he changing? Apparently. Hell, I'm still changing and growing as a person even at my advanced age. He is still a young man and we have had the privilege of watching him evolve over the last five years. I feel in my bones the best is yet to come. Is it because he is getting better advice and direction? I doubt it. Adam strikes me as a man who knows his own mind and capabilities and is in firm control of his own career and life course. His hair, clothes, acting, and musical choices are all an expression of his drive to create. The fact that they are always changing is what makes him so interesting to follow. He has a tremendous voice and is a wonderful interpreter of songs without a doubt. But, he is so much more than that. He is a performer. He is an entertainer. He is an artist to the core. And HE was--and is--in charge.
THIS! Count me IN! ETA: watching The Beatles Tribute reminds me of that intense excitement I felt of first seeing The Beatles on my PawPaw's teeny TV screen on Ed Sullivan Show in 1964 is same as I felt seeing AFL on American Idol in 2009. Guess he brings out the hopeful, romantic teenager that I still am in my heart. This is really an excellent show.. one of the best I have seen in a while. IMHO,So much better than all the current award shows put together. The Beatle songs are so iconic & Some fine performances.. Ringo is the bomb.. who knew.. What a personality..so much fun.
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Post by cassie on Feb 9, 2014 22:14:57 GMT -5
WARNING: Long-assed post about vocal technique. Feel free to scroll if it is not your thing. Someone commented that there were a number of posts about beards, hair cuts, etc and very little about the performance last night. I guess that is true. But, after you say it is gorgeous (which is nothing new for Adam. We have had five years of "gorgeous" vocals at this point), what is new? I did have some thoughts on the voice after listening a couple more times. So, to balance things out, here goes. Just like hair styles and facial fuzz or lack there of, people's preferences for singing styles and voice sounds is individual and influenced by their own life experiences. Truth in Advertising disclaimer: As y'all know, my experience growing up is classical music with a smattering of musical theater, choral music, and jazz. I have formal training in piano, violin and voice. That's my "bias." Adam's voice is beautiful to me for many reasons that have nothing to do with the way he looks, moves, dresses, or talks. First and foremost is the tones and textures of his voice. It is bright, pure, clear, ringing, with a richness and fullness to it. This underlies all of his different sounds. He can add roughness or gravel when he chooses, but that tone is still there. It is one of the main things that differentiates him from most other pop singers of today. And, it comes from his years of formal, classical training. An individual does not roll out of bed sounding like that. It is not "natural." An untrained singer sings with the same voice, the same "technique" as they talk. Lots of chest, and, when reaching for high notes and/or singing loudly, lots of push and brute force. You hear that push in the big belting divas. You hear it in Bruno's voice especially when he goes for the high notes (as he once said, he wrote a song in the key of "what the fuck"). It is a sound many people are very familiar with and enjoy; even covet in their pop stars. When one studies voice in the more classical style, one learns to focus, even "aim" the sound toward certain resonators in the body and head. These resonators naturally amplify the sound and add layers of harmonics to it which makes it sound fuller, and richer, with that "ring" I love in Adam's voice. A student of voice also learns how to adjust muscles and air flow to smoothly hit low notes and high notes that are often beyond what an untrained singer is able to hit. The student learns to move up and down their range without revealing these adjustments in the tone or sound of their voice, so that the voice character is consistent from low to high. A goal is to make the singing sound effortless, free and floating no matter what note and no matter what volume. Another emphasis in voice training is overall consistency and control. The singer aims to be able to sing any note in their range pianissimo (very softly) to fortissimo (very loudly) at will. The accomplished, trained singer's sound is not controlled by the song, the melody line or the range. He or she CHOOSES how to sing the note or phrase dependent on interpretation of the melody and lyrics. These singers can also sing musical and lyrical phrases of various lengths, breathing where it makes sense for the interpretation rather than where they run out of breath. They actually plan the phrasing and breathing for maxium effect. As an example, in Mad World, Adam frequently sings, "Look right through me (breath). Look right through me AND I find it kind of funny (breath)," extending the musical phrase to build impact, rather than to take a breath after the second "look right thru me" where most singers break the phrase. If you listen to untrained singers, you will notice that they sometimes (or often) break up lyrical and musical phrases to take a breath, sometimes even breathing between the syllables of a word. (As in illustration, listen to the Fun singer's performance of Somebody to Love as opposed to Adam's.) A trained singer's performance is also consistent from note to note, phrase to phrase because their voice is totally under their control. Untrained singers often sound strong and full on some notes, wimpy or wispy or gravelly on others, strained on others, and truncate still others, cutting them off rather than sustaining them (because they cannot). There are many other techniques and characteristics of a formally, classically trained voice, but I will stop here for now. My point is that Adam's voice demonstrates these characteristics in every song he sings. They were beautifully used in his performance last night. No matter how loud or soft he is singing, his voice never sounds strained or pushed. He doesn't sound like he is reaching for a note. He never sounds like he is working hard to produce the note or the volume. He totally chooses when to power out a phrase and when to caress it delicately. This is one reason Adam's voice FEELS so good to me. It FEELS effortless. It FEELS totally within his control and comfort. From start to finish, I know that Adam's "got this" and I can chill out and enjoy. I sometimes take for granted Adam's sound and technique. I even get a bit lulled into thinking that is "normal." Then something I hear will smack me upside the head and I will again be blown away with his voice. Most recently, I listened to Renee Fleming sing the National Anthem at the Superbowl. Some folks HATED her rendition. It sounded too different, too "opera-y", too "posh" or something. To me, it was a breath of fresh air. Such pure, resonant tone. Such effortless delivery. So totally in her control, her wheel-house. I listened, right after, to Whitney's quintessential rendition of the NA at the Superbowl in 1992?, and, with my bias, her voice sounded pushed, strained, heavy-handed. I acknowledge that as a pop diva rendition, it sets the gold standard. With my bias, I enjoyed Renee's much more. It FELT better. With Renee's example of tone, resonance, control and effortlessness, I went back and listened to Adam sing Queen. Two very different performers, two very different sets of material, but the same mastery of vocal performance and technique. Whew! You wanted a post about Adam's singing? Sorry, got a little carried away. Maybe I should have just said, "He sounded incredible last night" and left it at that.
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