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Post by adamrocks on Feb 9, 2014 22:15:04 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2014 22:21:40 GMT -5
Jablea: I am unable to quote or even paste but I wanted to thank you for your post that explained how Mad World was received by LBTGQ and generally misunderstood kids after Adam performed it on Idol. I was not an Adam follower at the time so I didn't realize the underground imact this song had on youth. Knowing this fact gives me some explaination why Adam keeps coming back to it at events like these. He should be very proud of all the ways he has impacted peoples' lives in the past. I still wish he would choose a different, equally impacting song, that doesn't transport non stans right back to visualizing that blue-lit chair on the Idol stage, as if that were his biggest accomplishment, but your response helps it sit better with me.
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Post by geezlouise on Feb 9, 2014 22:27:05 GMT -5
Just getting around to reading today and was about to put in my two cents........ and find there is no need. wannabethesnake, you have said everything I would have. Thank you for saving me a ton of typing.
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Post by skylar on Feb 9, 2014 22:27:54 GMT -5
I am thrilled about Melissa Ethridge and Adam together! She is the real deal and someone I totally respect! Not everyone today would get the collaboration with someone who is no longer the top billed star but Adam's view is far bigger than that and his respect for real musicians is one of the things I love about him. #rockandroll But I have to say, coming here to flail leaves me with a sour taste today. I love how we can discuss the ways of the fandom and all but I would just like to point out that while there are two sides to the discussion here today, only one side is implying the other is in some way wrong--"depressing", "disrespectful" to Adam, "nitpicking", somehow hurtful to Adam, and "the kind of person who"... I may not care for this present haircut and I may acknowledge that Adam is insecure about his looks (as he has said many a time) but that does not mean I love him, his appearance, or anything else about him less than anyone else who chooses to talk about only half of how they, or Adam, feel. Kay! 300% right on.
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Post by adamrocks on Feb 9, 2014 22:29:42 GMT -5
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Post by adamrocks on Feb 9, 2014 22:33:30 GMT -5
OutBabyNYC @outbabynyc 4m Thanks @adamlambert for attending this years LA #FamilyAwards @family_equality ..and for letting me snap a picture pic.twitter.com/0psucRassk
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Post by Craazyforadam on Feb 9, 2014 22:35:47 GMT -5
Count me on team-AFL-can-do-anything-he-wants-and-look-any-way-he-wants. I'll take this gorgeous man however I can get him, and he was absolutely STUNNING last night. I can, also, listen to any song of his a hundred times because he will always make it sound new and fresh and my old ears will quiver like innocent virgins being touched for the first time by his amazing...erm...INSTRUMENT. I honestly cannot find fault with him and never feel the urge to criticize any of his choices--not even the jaw-dropping face/crotch thrust and kiss felt round the world! He FASCINATES me. He can eat crackers in my bed any time sporting a full beard with the frankingump haircut while wearing the Elmo coat and aqua board shorts! Adam had me at "Mama" and I've been on the ride of my life ever since and plan to hang on for every twist and turn to come. That's why I must take a small exception to the sentiment that Adam "got off on the wrong foot and is just now discovering who he is and expressing his true self and now realizes he only needs his voice"....uh...stuff. Adam Lambert has known who he "is" for a very long time. Zodiac Show, anyone? He stormed the most popular television show of his time and made it his BITCH! The Idol tour shoulda been called, "An Evening With Adam Lambert and Friends". The album, "For Your Entertainment", was his biggest seller producing his only radio hits and a Grammy nomination. It, also, produced his only official world wide tour that sold out venues and won him critical acclaim. He has said repeatedly that he was allowed massive freedom while compiling this album in a short period of time and had some of the biggest names in the business working with him. The tour was his baby showcasing his tremendous talent, creativity, and showmanship. IMHO, it was theatrical performance art at it's best. The fun and excitement of the Glam Nation Tour experience and the friends I made at the time will always be some of my best memories. To be honest...I miss the sensual energy and edgy originality of that time period. And, yes, through it all the voice was sublime. It still is. It seems to be even better in fact.
So....to state he is just "now" finding himself does not compute. Is he changing? Apparently. Hell, I'm still changing and growing as a person even at my advanced age. He is still a young man and we have had the privilege of watching him evolve over the last five years. I feel in my bones the best is yet to come. Is it because he is getting better advice and direction? I doubt it. Adam strikes me as a man who knows his own mind and capabilities and is in firm control of his own career and life course. His hair, clothes, acting, and musical choices are all an expression of his drive to create. The fact that they are always changing is what makes him so interesting to follow. He has a tremendous voice and is a wonderful interpreter of songs without a doubt. But, he is so much more than that. He is a performer. He is an entertainer. He is an artist to the core. And HE was--and is--in charge.
YES, to this. You just formulated what I was thinking and trying to say, you just did it so much better. A few things I want to add. Adam knows himself, but I do think that he did not know his market or what that market was needing from him to remain interested. So, he threw his Glam Persona out there and took us on that trip, and everybody who wanted to follow, did. But in contrast to us, who thought that Glam Adam was the 'Glambert-religion' to follow, for Adam this was just one act, expressing one side of him. It was to us fans an astounding experience, how quickly and resolutely he could put the glitter away and develop a new storyline or at least new imagery on a snap. And now we are changing again, and I don't know whether the present phase is an in-between-phase or is in fact the visual image and persona that we will find presented and further developed in A3. But throughout this all, I think that Adam has always been essentially the same, but just like in a photo you only see a snapshot of a person, so is it also with the public persona versus the actual person. The public person is like a snapshot of the real existence. I think that Adam always knew that his voice was his special instrument. He himself said that during FYE, he was kind of vocally showing off. But, I do think that Adam felt that he needed a lot of extra in addition to the voice. And so we got the bombast in person, in his act, in his make-up and clothes and where ever he saw fit. That doing less is also ok, and that showing the more plain and natural side is giving the audience or the fans quite enough, is probably something he had to experience to be comfortable with it. In addition, he is obviously seeing, that there are others, who are now even more interested, folks that perhaps did not GET him, while he was doing the whole Glam thing. I am always a bit weary of folks like that, because if they did not get it then, will they get it next time, when the more flamboyant and gender-bending Adam returns? Will those, who thought that this was just clown's play, wise up next time around? Maybe, maybe not. But I am pretty sure that Adam is not loosing anybody he previously had interested, so he can successfully widen his fan base now and yet still have that solid core that was with him since the start. And then we will find out who stays, when the next change happens. In many ways, I think it was better for Adam that he had a slow ascent and could get settled into his new life of fame and now he can organically build his career, instead of having been shot into mega fame via idol and then have the fear of falling down from those heights. This is a much more solid way, and while I don't think that Adam planned it out that way, I think it was good the way it happened. I don't think Adam did anything wrong by choosing the glam persona first. In fact, had he chosen the more mainstream persona first, there would have been fear in the industry to letting him expand. Now, he has the whole array of options available to him, and can make his choices, as he sees fit. It was long-term smarts over short term wins, and he did not start on the wrong foot, he started by creating a platform to put all his future pairs of boots down. He always wanted longevity and this is exactly what he will have.
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Post by evergreen on Feb 9, 2014 22:44:13 GMT -5
While waiting for new music, I am putting together a playlist for the car. Added this one from Adam's remix ep. Will definitely use cruise control while listening to this one. On another subject - Thanks, cassie, for your explanation of Adam's extraordinary skills. I only have to listen to someone else sing to appreciate how amazing he is. You mentioned the Fun version of STL. Nate has a great energy and it was fun to watch him (once or twice). But to put that QAL iHeart performance on a cd or my computer it is necessary to delete that song. Guess I'm just too spoiled...
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Post by evergreen on Feb 9, 2014 22:50:56 GMT -5
wannabethesnake and craazyforadam: Great posts! Thanks!!
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Post by nannygoat on Feb 9, 2014 22:56:32 GMT -5
Before I do get myself banned for impurey thoughts, did ya'll notice I didn't say squat about Adam's anything? Nope, not better than thou or thouest, but I sat myself down. Had a little chat. I've been on a roll about the 'look' for awhile..trying to keep it lite, but I realized that I have become very attached to my way of seeing things. I have spent more energy on someone else's face and hair than I ever have my own and that's a whole lot of energy to expend on someone I don't know. Funny thing about being a fan..a sense of false intimacy with a persona. Not telling anyone how to play in that sandbox, but I have to concentrate on something else. Music would be good. I learn so much about myself being here. Thanks to all for being my fellow teachers! Loved this response, Vivlite! Your realization is a real wake-up call. Concentrating on the MUSIC is the way to go. IT IS SOOOO GOOD!!!!!!
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