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Post by adamrocks on Mar 12, 2014 14:09:44 GMT -5
Hey guys, Anyone living in Dallas, TX??? I had the chance thanks to my sister to score four extra tickets for this great concert. javascript:addS("http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adam%20Smilys/adamsmile2.gif","%20  %20")You gotta love the sis, Im not trying to resell them to get a profit. Im just trying to help out whoever couldn't get them at the pre-sale. Just let me know if you are interested. Hi. Could you PM me please? adamrocks |
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Post by kittykay on Mar 12, 2014 14:13:50 GMT -5
I have seen many saying presales only release 20% of their tickets. I don't know where this info came from, but for large popular shows, I doubt that is true. I go tomany concerts a year and for most, if you don't get presale you have slim pickings in public day. Billboard even did an article about how little is left after all the presales! Maybe 20% to fan club? I know the Am Ex seats I got were better than what fan club offered too. Definitely not the same pool. Just my thoughts on past ticket buying  It came from these tweets: @mmadamimadamm: Love hearing that! Go Queen and Adam! RT @jam2885: Okay just spoke to ticketmaster and they said the tickets were flying and not obstructed @kittykay3: @mmadamimadamm @jam2885 Did TM say what % of tickets were released in the pre sale? @jam2885: @kittykay3 @mmadamimadamm yup! 20 percent I assumed that was 20% for the fan club only. American Express would have another pool. The Queen FB one would have additional tickets released. I have seen some codes tweeted by radio stations today for exclusive presale. I have no idea how much that is all together. Do you think they released more than the 20% to the fan club after it began? There were tickets available yesterday that were not there Monday. Does LiveNation give some tickets to the secondary market? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 14:45:52 GMT -5
Most likely! All the big concerts will do that. And with a presale every day, leading up to the public sale, I'd say the majority of the tickets are being offered at presales, at least here in the US. Probably, legally, they have to save a certain % for the public sale. But I'd be very surprised if it is a large percentage.
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Post by nonotme on Mar 12, 2014 16:20:44 GMT -5
I did a quick search to see if I could find that article about ticket sales at the Bieber show mentioned previously. I didn't find the one I originally read, but I found this one. It breaks down the numbers for that concert, but also talks a bit about the general trend of having pre-sales. peace&love news.yahoo.com/the-little-secret-of-the-concert-business-184341490.htmlThe Little Secret Of The Concert Business
By Dean Arrindell And Lauren Lyster | Just Explain It - News – Tue, Jun 4, 2013
Some of the biggest acts in music are hitting the road this summer: Beyonce, The Rolling Stones, Jay-Z and Justin Timberlake, just to name a few.
But have you tried to get tickets to see your favorite megastar?
You can call or go online the moment tickets go on sale, but they can be sold out in seconds.
Why is it so hard to get tickets to the hottest concerts?
That's the subject of today's Just Explain It.
You might think these concerts sell out so fast because of the high demand for tickets. But the profitable little secret of the concert business is just how small the supply of tickets actually is. In some cases, as little as seven percent of all tickets for an event go on sale to the general public.
That was the portion of tickets up for grabs to the general public for a Justin Bieber show earlier this year. An investigation by Nashville’s NewsChannel5 found that out of close to 14,000 tickets at the city’s Bridgestone Arena, just over a thousand were available for the public onsale. Public onsale is the time tickets go on sale to the general public.
Why were there so few tickets available? Two words: Pre-sales.
Almost 5,800 of those Bieber tickets were made available to American Express customers. And another 2,900 went to people who paid to be in his fan club. Additional tickets are reserved for the artist, the tour, music industry people, promotions, and others, which left very few tickets for the public onsale.
Bieber is far from the only artist to sell so few tickets to the broader public. Pre-sales can make up the bulk of ticket sales for many concerts. In addition to pre-selling through credit cards and fan clubs, venues and ticket-sellers like TicketMaster also have pre-sales.
So, why are there so many pre-sales? It’s a business decision. Credit card, fan club and venue lists are valuable consumer data. It’s better to target potential ticket buyers who have the money and interest in a performer to guarantee the arena dates sell out.
That’s important for one major reason: Money. With declining record sales, concert tours are one of the few remaining places where artists can make a lot of cash. For example, Billboard magazine named Madonna music’s top-Moneymaker last year with earnings of more than $34 million dollars. More than 93-percent of that, an estimated $32 million, was made from her tour. Madonna’s tour was also the top-grossing of the year. By comparison, the physical and digital album sales portion of her earnings was estimated at just $1.5 million.
And whether or not you get in on one of those pre-sales, you still have to compete with scalpers. Using multiple credit cards and computer programs to bombard ticket sellers with thousands of requests, scalpers buy up large quantities of tickets to resell for a profit.
If this seems unfair to you, you’re not alone. Lawmakers in New York and New Jersey have put forth bills that would encourage more transparency about how many seats are actually available during public onsales.
What do you think? Have you had trouble getting concert tickets? What have you done to see your favorite artists? Give us your feedback in the comments section below, or on Twitter using #JustExplainItNews.
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Post by nica575 on Mar 12, 2014 16:31:27 GMT -5
I was "jailed" by TM today, so here is how it works according to their to customer service: If you click too fast and too many times they revoke their site access for your IP address. They wouldn't specify how many clicks or how fast trigger the ban. You get "Forbidden Access" message as soon as you try to go to ticketmaster.com . This is important to know: the ban is active for the full 24 hours after your LAST attempt. So, if you got that message, stop trying for 24-25 hours. If you try earlier the clock will be reset and you'll have to wait the "new" 24 hours. so, I learned it the hard way  I have to wait till 5 pm tomorrow and so I'll miss the morning pre-sale...although that might be a blessing, as I do have all my tickets and trying to improve the seats might cause more anxiety ??? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 16:33:22 GMT -5
Thank you, nonotme! That is actually the article I was referring to! And I believe every word. I have been to Katy Perry, P!Nk, and Kelly Clarksonin the past 2 years. The presales pretty much finished off all the tickets. I was lucky to get my tickets at them, but I always check the public sale day to see what is being offered. Often it is nothing or really bad seats. That's why I was questioning the 20% that everyone was repeating. I would bet that 20% went to the fanclub. And with a presale every day, who knows what is left? I think the Forum map will be a pretty good way to tell though. On Saturday if a ton of seats open up, we'll know they saved a lot for public sale. But I am not counting on it.
IMO, presales are just smart marketing, as are the VIP packages! This:
"So, why are there so many pre-sales? It’s a business decision. Credit card, fan club and venue lists are valuable consumer data. It’s better to target potential ticket buyers who have the money and interest in a performer to guarantee the arena dates sell out"
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Post by rihannsu on Mar 12, 2014 19:42:07 GMT -5
OMG! I got my Saturday Vegas ticket in the AEG presale but what a roller coaster. I was at work so had to use my phone. Happened to glance at the time on my phone just as presale was starting but accidentally used fan club password first and it wasn't going anywhere. Then remembered it was different pw and got in. Pulled up rear balcony row J but when I got to cc screen my browser locked up and time ran out. Phone signal was iffy and no wifi available. Got in one more time got row L ticket and same thing happens, signal disappears and browser stops responding. Got the dog I was grooming finished and figured I'd head down the road to McDonald's and hit their wifi but phone still kept acting up. Finally had to reboot my phone then go back outside and shut off wifi to get a signal (standing behind my van in the parking lot LOL) and finally managed to get through. Got section 403 row N seat 5 so I hope that's not too bad. Now I need to find a map. HAHA
But at least that's it. I have both nights in Vegas, MSG, Mohegan Sun and Merryweather. Got my hotel in NY (hmm need to make sure it isn't close to buildings that blew up today). Thank God for my daughter who is letting me charge obscene amounts of money on her charge card to make this all happen.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 19:52:12 GMT -5
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Post by rihannsu on Mar 12, 2014 20:07:39 GMT -5
MORE drama! All the maps I found didn't show anything beyond row G in the balcony. Panic call to the box office and yes my ticket does exist LOL. The maps all showed rows A-G, well there is another whole section behind that up to row N. I ended up with the last row. But I am happy cause it is still only 155 ft from stage which I believe is half a football field. Right?
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Post by kittykay on Mar 12, 2014 22:50:23 GMT -5
Thank you, nonotme! That is actually the article I was referring to! And I believe every word. I have been to Katy Perry, P!Nk, and Kelly Clarksonin the past 2 years. The presales pretty much finished off all the tickets. I was lucky to get my tickets at them, but I always check the public sale day to see what is being offered. Often it is nothing or really bad seats. That's why I was questioning the 20% that everyone was repeating. I would bet that 20% went to the fanclub. And with a presale every day, who knows what is left? I think the Forum map will be a pretty good way to tell though. On Saturday if a ton of seats open up, we'll know they saved a lot for public sale. But I am not counting on it. IMO, presales are just smart marketing, as are the VIP packages! This: "So, why are there so many pre-sales? It’s a business decision. Credit card, fan club and venue lists are valuable consumer data. It’s better to target potential ticket buyers who have the money and interest in a performer to guarantee the arena dates sell out"
The Beiber article lists double the amount of tickets offered through AE than the fan club. If that is true with Queen + Adam. That would mean 20% to the fan club (assuming information is correct) and 40% to AE. If over half of the tickets have been released i think that is a good sign for the success of the tour. I have been periodically checking Chicago tickets. I don't see any more Fan Packages. The tickets (pair) offered are all in the 300's. It was the 200's and Floor by the sound board yesterday. |
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I have to wait till 5 pm tomorrow and so I'll miss the morning pre-sale...although that might be a blessing, as I do have all my tickets and trying to improve the seats might cause more anxiety ???
