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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2014 13:16:58 GMT -5
I do not think that Adam is overly sensitive nor that he is ignorant of the sentiment behind the statements. He just wants people to THINK and see things from a new perspective. Bravo! Yes, I agree - "perspective"! His tweets just point out the limits of "hetero-normative" thinking. "Sad"? "Shame"? "Waste"? to whom? NOT To Adam . . . He is happy, celebratory, and celebrated.
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Post by betty on Apr 1, 2014 13:24:12 GMT -5
RE the twitter party: I am very happy to see Adam's beautiful, fearless spirit is still alive and kicking. The way he goes about things is like a breath of fresh air to me. (If I could, I would tell him, though, that those who are sorry he is gay are not his fans.) About the post-modern affair: if it means what I think it means, him creating something different and fresh, regardless of current trends in music and regardless of what anyone might think he should do or what would be rational, if it means him making music according to his heart's and mind's desires, the way he wants it no matter what, he is even bigger than I thought. It's a message, isn't it, that he isn't going to play it safe and he never will. I feel like the post-modern affair tweet was directed to those who thought he should have done that cover album, to those who think he should stick with Queen and should have probably done it from the start (I have evidence to support this), or who think he should stick to this genre or that; to people who think he should simplify his lyrics, and stop using such big words, especially after Trespassing; people who think that he should get a message already and quit trying to be an author; ultimately, to those who think he is just a pretty face and stellar voice and nothing else, and that Adam proving to have brains to match is too much, is pushing it. This is him saying no to all of that. He is intense and ambitious, and that combined with his very lucky hand in the gene share make some people want to bring him down, to see him down, maybe, but I have this deep conviction that that is never going to happen. About the sonical diversity and disregard for genre: that was the most common objection to his albums, and he is going to do it again. How can one not love him? He obviously doesn't want an even sound and he is not going to do it even if no one ever gets it. He doesn't make music to fit a radio station's profile or a listener's current mood. It is as if all the sounds in his head, and musicians that he admires and whose impact Adam wants to feel and leave a trace of, don't deserve to get silenced or shunned because they don't fit. It's not news that he hates being compartmentalized, or defined, no matter the price. If it takes a genre identification, or sound identification, to make a breakthrough as a complete author, and to prove himself as one, he would rather work on redefining people's (mis)conceptions of what constitutes one than redefine himself. I could never find flaws with his ideas, only with his execution of those ideas, on occasion. For me, it means that his ideas are what brings every sound and word to life and that ultimately, the sexiest part of Adam is not his voice or body, but his brain. It took both his voice and his body to where they are today. The fact that his ideas are often disregarded, misunderstood or remain invisible to many won't stop him from being firstly and foremostly, a thinking man. About honesty: this part excited me the most. This is the word he used so much when he talked about Trespassing. This is the word he uses to speak about the lyrics. Again, he declares that he will remain loyal to who he is, in spite of some critics, and in spite of a solid number of those who feel that his lyrics should be more aimed to general audiences. To me, it's the most tragic when his own fans feel that he said what he needed to say on Trespassing and that now he can freely move on to less dangerous, more approachable pastures. The reason why I love every word he wrote is not because they are the most beautiful words, but because they are so honest in a world where honesty is very expensive - especially his honesty. He keeps saying that he is honest to a fault and the computer pun he made, of it being his default setting, could be read as a simple explanation that he is not a machine to have his settings changed for anyone's whim, not even his own. So, yes, he is going to keep being honest, whether anyone likes it or not. I loved this twitter party. I don't know anything about how Adam's new album is going to sound like and what the lyrics are going to be about, but I got a glimpse into the ideas behind it and they are very much to my liking. When Q3 wrote about the twitter party on the front page and when she pointed out the three key phrases: post-modernism, sonical diversity and honesty, she also said, "I think anyone who follows Adam expected all of this. " I would like to politely disagree - I think rarely anyone expected this. They expected Max Martin radio hits with neutral lyrics, genre and sonically specific. Who knows, maybe we do get that for the first single. Maybe, because Adam, as much he is his own man, is also an every man, with common notions shared by all, which is more than fine. Maybe even I expected that. This is why I love his promises of today - they carry that wind of untamed spirit which blows like undercurrent from all his songs straight into my face, smelling of determination, courage, fierceness, freedom, loyalty, smelling of Adam. The results, like consequences of his ideas, are very important, but after they leave his head they are not only his own, they get to be translated into songs and an album and an album cover and art and everything else. The reason why I appreciate so much this glimpse into his ideas is that I don't want anything to get lost in that translation, at least not for me. That's why I want to learn to speak Adam, not just to see the translation. That would make one more language I am fluent in:)))
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Post by melliemom on Apr 1, 2014 13:41:30 GMT -5
I hope Adam's Glee videos stay on On Demand for a long while.. I can get my Adam on TV that way.. been watching the episodes he's in.. Really great
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Post by adamrocks on Apr 1, 2014 13:49:03 GMT -5
Which is completely not helped at the vision of cherry blossoms which, at this rate, will show up in May :( This is OT, but for all those who are truly sick and tired of the winter weather. It is especially for jazzrocks, whose comments I've followed on the Twitter feed below... OMG!! This is priceless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by spiffysmile on Apr 1, 2014 14:09:08 GMT -5
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Post by wal on Apr 1, 2014 14:30:24 GMT -5
spiffysmile, I've always enjoyed your work! Thanks for sharing! ** Adam's new pic posted on his official Facebook, already has close to 107,000 likes. www.facebook.com/AdamLambert
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Post by shimoli710 on Apr 1, 2014 14:40:07 GMT -5
'@hooplamagnet 13m RT @socialitelife: Adam Lambert And Chris Colfer Sing ‘Rockstar’ For Adam’s Final ‘Glee’ Episode soclfe.it/O9hQhO ' Adam Lambert And Chris Colfer Sing ‘Rockstar’ For Adam’s Final ‘Glee’ Episode Do we have Chris cropped out and just Adam for this pic anywhere? Coudn't find any. So I made this:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2014 14:41:58 GMT -5
Missed another twitter party, though this one looks like it was a more serious discussion rather than a party. Good to hear from him again. I have to say, the first set of tweets is one, I am always somewhat ambivalent about, as this topic has been raised by Adam before. Obviously, knowing that Adam finds those statements like 'I wish you were not gay, so I could marry you', seem offensive to him, I always cringe when I read them, though they are probably just written by somebody young, who has not read every one of his tweets. I doubt there is anyone who wants to offend him with this. But yet, Adam feels offended, and with that he also shows how sensitive and not on equal terms the whole topic for him still is. Example: I am a straight woman. If another woman had ever come up to me and said, 'I wish you were lesbian, so we could make out', it would have never occurred to me to take this as an offense, a little weird maybe, but certainly not offensive. I would have taken it as a compliment that she finds me sexually attractive. The difference obviously is, that I never had to battle for my right to be straight and happy about it, it is just a given. Whereas Adam had to defend his orientation time and time again, against those that consider it as less that preferable, a curse, a disability, a burden, a sin, whatever....but definitely not something positive. Against that he had to work to develop the pride in his orientation and a willingness to defend it as a part of his identity. Shouldn't the goal be that all orientations are on even basis? Adam does not want to be victimized by his orientation, yet with the fact that he hears a put-down on his orientation, rather than the compliment to him as a person in that sentence, he is showing that things are not equal at all. So just makes me sadz that he cannot hear the compliment that he has been given. People love him, find him attractive, sexy...that is what they are trying to say....and yet, all he hears is that his orientation is not ok, when that was not really intended by that twitterer at all. I think you may have misunderstood/misread Adam's tweets. He did not say anything about people who say "I wish you weren't gay so I could marry you" (although I dare say someone saying they wish he wasn't gay is also offensive). He said people who say "it's so sad you are gay" are offensive. IMO it is in no way a compliment to wish someone was different/other than who they truly are. Would you think it was a compliment if someone said "it's so sad you're a woman"; "it's so sad you're eyes are (insert color)" "it's so sad you're black"????? You can find Adam attractive, sexy, whatever and not wish he was someone different.
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Post by midwifespal on Apr 1, 2014 15:09:29 GMT -5
But what Adam was talking about is when people say "so sad that he's gay." He's pointing out that it is NOT SAD. The comment he quoted did not include anything about making out or dating. That part came from him asking if that was why they found it sad. He was saying that him being gay is not the impediment to hooking up because even if he were straight it wouldn't happen. Saying you wish is quite different from saying it is sad or a waste. Yes, that is a differentiation that results from the fact that he clearly hears a different message in the statement than the one intended by the sender - and obviously I see how it could be interpreted that way, I just don't think, the sender is realizing that. As some have here rightfully suggested, it is probably better to project the change on oneself, as in: I wish I were male, 30 years younger, 30 pounds lighter, artistically inclined, etc...rather than projecting the need to change onto him: ' so sad that you are gay'. That would take the confusion out of it. But reality is that Adam will continue to get these messages, because not everyone is reading his tweets. And therefore it would also help, if Adam could feel, how they were meant as a compliment, so these tweets could make him smile, instead of making him feel sad.
Hate to see him get hurt all the time with something that was not intended that way.I appreciate what you're saying, Craazy, and I get where you're coming from, but in my opinion the bolded part at the end completely misses Adam's point. He doesn't feel sad, and he's not getting hurt all the time. Sometimes, I think, we fans feel so much sympathy for him that we tend to probe for pain "underneath" that isn't always necessarily there. And in a way, that is "defining" and "victimizing" him by his orientation as much as anything. Which is why Adam joyfully pointed out "I love bein gay." #sadgay #oxymoron To me, this was a twitter series intended to combat, more than anything else, that sympathetic instinct. He understands perfectly where people, including, yes, real fans, are coming from. He's not blinded by some childhood pain on that front, in my opinion. He just thinks it's silly and kind of insulting when people give him that sympathetic head-tilt, you know? (Not talking about you here, Craazy! which may be obvious but thought I'd clarify just in case ) I'm not saying Adam hasn't suffered at all because of his sexuality--sadly we all know that isn't the case--but mostly he has been fortunate enough to have the kind of positive experience that many gay kids from less open backgrounds don't have. Partly, again, this is a generational question, and Adam's pretty self-aware about that, too, I think. I always think of Adam's lovely speech to the PFLAG group, with his mother. And LOL at the end, paraphrasing worried parents: "'I just don't want it to be a hard life for my kid. It's such a hard life.' [beat] It's really fun, it's not hard." But he goes on: "I think that's the thing more people need to understand--you know what, when you go to where there are more people like you, it's not so hard. You can find people who are like you, find a community, find your spot in life, and these are the things we need to break, these old, antiquated stereotypes." I think that, in part, was his message yesterday, and I can understand, from that perspective, why he might find the overblown sympathy for his gayness a little insulting. As he says, "it ain't a disability, its just a disposition." If it doesn't do it automatically, skip to 5.45 in this vid to hear Adam's lovely, charming-as-ever speech: eta: ugh, video didn't embed for me, so will try link instead: www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZut6b0IDXk#t=5m45s
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Post by pi on Apr 1, 2014 15:10:41 GMT -5
Nice but I don't think this is the official glee one, which is the one we should play. I'd like to give hits where it counts.. does anyone know which is the official glee Rockstar video to watch?
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