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Post by iichy on Jun 8, 2014 18:48:41 GMT -5
Q3FYI -- The big TV campaigns (when they include the US or Japan) -- like Jerry Seinfeld and Tina Fey + AMEX -- are worth $10+ million. Getting a song featured in a TV major ad campaign is worth at least $1 million. A lot more for a hit and/or an exclusive like Fiat did with "Happy". The biggest payments are for a big song by a big star both appearing in a campaign -- these are rare.
You reminded me of Jaguar, Sting, Desert Rose.
Back story on Sting & Jaguar collaboration.
www.pophistorydig.com/?tag=sting-jaguarJaguar’s Ad Music
“Greatest Hits” – 1999-2008
Desert Rose Sting
History Repeating Propellerhead & Shirley Bassey
I Turn My Camera On Spoon
The Girl’s Attractive Diamond Nights
Hardcore Days & Softcore Nights Aqueduct
Signs Of Love Moby
I’m In Love With My Car
Queen
Battle Without Honor…#2 Tomoyasu Hotei
London Calling The Clash
Two Rocks And A Cup Of Water Massive Attack
Hush Deep Purple
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Post by Q3 on Jun 8, 2014 18:54:56 GMT -5
Somebody talked about 'imprinting' on a voice once. I am definitely imprinted on Adams voice. Whenever I hear him sing, especially when I am not expecting it, my whole body just gets a shot of adrenaline (or whatever hormone it might be). If I listen to Freddie, he makes me rock, smile, go 'woaaa that's f*cking brilliant', or just very happy, but I don't get that 'Adam' tingle. Doesn't say anything about Freddie or Adam, but a lot about me  . I work on research in a related area and am actually working on the design for a study of popular music in advertising and emotional response (directly related to imprinting). I am still working on the foundational work but it is shocking how little research has been done on music and working memory, longterm memory and the associated emotional response. Anecdotal evidence suggests that people develop tastes for the genre of music that they were exposed to in their late adolescence and early adulthood, to the exclusion of other genres. The underlying emotional response that different music elicits seems to be preserved. But there is a gap in neuroscience research to support this. There also (oddly) is very little work to deal with music preferences in the US and culture, region, social and environmental factors. Music is directly tied to socially acceptable behavior -- what is "cool". |
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Post by Q3 on Jun 8, 2014 19:23:56 GMT -5
Q3FYI -- The big TV campaigns (when they include the US or Japan) -- like Jerry Seinfeld and Tina Fey + AMEX -- are worth $10+ million. Getting a song featured in a TV major ad campaign is worth at least $1 million. A lot more for a hit and/or an exclusive like Fiat did with "Happy". The biggest payments are for a big song by a big star both appearing in a campaign -- these are rare.
You reminded me of Jaguar, Sting, Desert Rose.
Back story on Sting & Jaguar collaboration.
www.pophistorydig.com/?tag=sting-jaguarJaguar’s Ad Music
“Greatest Hits” – 1999-2008
Desert Rose Sting
History Repeating Propellerhead & Shirley Bassey
I Turn My Camera On Spoon
The Girl’s Attractive Diamond Nights
Hardcore Days & Softcore Nights Aqueduct
Signs Of Love Moby
I’m In Love With My Car
Queen
Battle Without Honor…#2 Tomoyasu Hotei
London Calling The Clash
Two Rocks And A Cup Of Water Massive Attack
Hush Deep Purple In the small circle that is my life, I once worked on the Jaguar worldwide for their brand agency.  I can confirm that Sting + Jaguar is a perfect example. |
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Post by lynne on Jun 8, 2014 19:33:27 GMT -5
I am a long time lurker since day 1 here. Just to show my tremendous appreciation for Talon, Q3 and the other members contribution for all the info on queen and Adam, and to help push this to page 2 for Talon, here I am posting away. I'm honored! And thanks everyone for helping make the push...I had the post all ready to go and was just awaiting the click! I am really enjoying getting to know all of the music from Queen. I only knew the typical songs Americans know before Adam, so it has been fun revisiting their work - and hearing and seeing these amazing recordings of Freddie performing live. What a genius! Where was I back then? Thanks Talon, Q3 and all the others for sharing your knowledge. It makes me even more excited for the upcoming concerts. I have become a Queen fan now as well as an Adam Lambert fan. Freddie's voice is incredible. Adam's voice, for me, is bliss. They are different singers, similar for me in that they both are powerful and both have the power to blow me away. They are both such charismatic performers. These are Freddie's (and Queen's) songs; Freddie was an organic part of the band and the music they created together. They had years of growing and writing and rehearsing and experiencing music together. They created a kind of magic that rarely happens ever for musicians. To me, it is a joy that Adam can, as he says, pay tribute to that legacy and bring these songs, and Freddie's work, to new listeners like me. Brian and Roger pay him quite an honor to trust that his vocal ability and his charismatic performance style, as Adam Lambert, is enough to do the job splendidly and make it fun again for the show to go on. They have waited a long time to find someone who they feel can bring what they need to the table. So I'm thrilled for them all, and I feel all of their collective joy in being able to make this happen. I'm delighted for Brian and Roger that they have Adam, and I'm delighted for Adam to experience Brian and Roger. I'm especially delighted for myself, because I get to experience them together. For me, it will be magic. Can't wait to see you there! <3 |
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Post by lynne on Jun 8, 2014 19:44:05 GMT -5
Somebody talked about 'imprinting' on a voice once. I am definitely imprinted on Adams voice. Whenever I hear him sing, especially when I am not expecting it, my whole body just gets a shot of adrenaline (or whatever hormone it might be). If I listen to Freddie, he makes me rock, smile, go 'woaaa that's f*cking brilliant', or just very happy, but I don't get that 'Adam' tingle. Doesn't say anything about Freddie or Adam, but a lot about me . I work on research in a related area and am actually working on the design for a study of popular music in advertising and emotional response (directly related to imprinting). I am still working on the foundational work but it is shocking how little research has been done on music and working memory, longterm memory and the associated emotional response. Anecdotal evidence suggests that people develop tastes for the genre of music that they were exposed to in their late adolescence and early adulthood, to the exclusion of other genres. The underlying emotional response that different music elicits seems to be preserved. But there is a gap in neuroscience research to support this. There also (oddly) is very little work to deal with music preferences in the US and culture, region, social and environmental factors. Music is directly tied to socially acceptable behavior -- what is "cool". However, listen to a new genre long enough, or with the right motivation, haha, and you can develop a love for that genre well beyond early adulthood. When my son first began making dance music, I didn't get it AT ALL, but five years and many repeated listens later, I do get it, and have added it to a type of music I love when it fits my mood. This is why I know I will come to love whatever Adam "surprises" us with in album 3, lol. |
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Post by crazyoldgal on Jun 8, 2014 20:07:25 GMT -5
I'm honored! And thanks everyone for helping make the push...I had the post all ready to go and was just awaiting the click! I am really enjoying getting to know all of the music from Queen. I only knew the typical songs Americans know before Adam, so it has been fun revisiting their work - and hearing and seeing these amazing recordings of Freddie performing live. What a genius! Where was I back then? Thanks Talon, Q3 and all the others for sharing your knowledge. It makes me even more excited for the upcoming concerts. I have become a Queen fan now as well as an Adam Lambert fan. Freddie's voice is incredible. Adam's voice, for me, is bliss. They are different singers, similar for me in that they both are powerful and both have the power to blow me away. They are both such charismatic performers. These are Freddie's (and Queen's) songs; Freddie was an organic part of the band and the music they created together. They had years of growing and writing and rehearsing and experiencing music together. They created a kind of magic that rarely happens ever for musicians. To me, it is a joy that Adam can, as he says, pay tribute to that legacy and bring these songs, and Freddie's work, to new listeners like me. Brian and Roger pay him quite an honor to trust that his vocal ability and his charismatic performance style, as Adam Lambert, is enough to do the job splendidly and make it fun again for the show to go on. They have waited a long time to find someone who they feel can bring what they need to the table. So I'm thrilled for them all, and I feel all of their collective joy in being able to make this happen. I'm delighted for Brian and Roger that they have Adam, and I'm delighted for Adam to experience Brian and Roger. I'm especially delighted for myself, because I get to experience them together. For me, it will be magic. Can't wait to see you there! <3 Lyn |
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Post by crazyoldgal on Jun 8, 2014 20:12:16 GMT -5
oops Lyne
You sid it perfectly, These ARE Freddie's/Queen songs. Therefore his delivery is the intent of the writer. BUT I love Broadway/Opera therefore I'm partial to Adam end of debate
TALON
QUeen was originally 4 members When John Deacon left, did they hire two bandmates Spike who I think is incredibly talented and can really tickle those ivories and Neil who also is a gifted bass guitarist. Were these two the original bandmates, or were there others before these two clicked with Brian and John????
I think it was asked before, but why has Rufus Tiger been added? as more of a intense drum sound? or a backup when Roger takes the stage and sings?
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Post by evergreen on Jun 8, 2014 20:39:54 GMT -5
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Post by Q3 on Jun 8, 2014 20:40:51 GMT -5
oops Lyne You sid it perfectly, These ARE Freddie's/Queen songs. Therefore his delivery is the intent of the writer. BUT I love Broadway/Opera therefore I'm partial to Adam end of debate TALON QUeen was originally 4 members When John Deacon left, did they hire two bandmates Spike who I think is incredibly talented and can really tickle those ivories and Neil who also is a gifted bass guitarist. Were these two the original bandmates, or were there others before these two clicked with Brian and John???? I think it was asked before, but why has Rufus Tiger been added? as more of a intense drum sound? or a backup when Roger takes the stage and sings? Not Talon but to answer --- Queen will always be Brian, Roger, Freddie and John. No new members have ever been added. And they have been together since February 1971. That is why the 2005-8 and the 2011-2014 Queen Tours have been Queen + ("Queen plus") Tours. *** Rufus was added to free up Roger for solo performances and because most people cannot drum with that intensity for 2 hours, forget about someone in their 60's. For the Q+PR Tour Rodger was the only drummer. *** Queen was composed of... Brian May, Roger Taylor and bassist Tim Staffell formed a band called Smile in 1968. In 1970 Tim left Smile to form his own band and Farrokh Bulsara joined Smile. Sometime in 1970 Farrokh convince Brian and Roger to change the band's name to Queen. This appears to have been an evolution because the name changed while advertisements for the band still said Smile. Queen was comprised of: Brian May 1970 - now Roger Taylor 1970 - now Freddie Mercury - 1970 - 1991 John Deacon - February 1971 - 1998 retired. In 2004 he declined to join Brian and Roger for the Q+PR tour but gave them permission to use the name Queen for this and other purposes.
Queen had a number of bass players before February 1971 when John joined. They are not relevant - the longest lived lasted less than 3 months. Starting in 1982, Queen added a keyboardist to the touring band to free up Freddie to focus on the vocal and performance for most of the songs. Also, in 1982, they had started to incorporate synths in their music and needed someone to take care of this. Spike is part of the touring band, not part of Queen. He has been a member of the touring band since 1984 -- a very long time. A number of musicians have been part of Queen touring bands: Morgan Fisher – keyboards, piano (1982) Fred Mandel – keyboards, piano (1982) Spike Edney – keyboards, piano, rhythm guitar, backing vocals (1984–present) Jamie Moses – rhythm guitar, backing vocals (2005-2009) Danny Miranda – bass guitar, backing vocals (2005-2009) Rufus Tiger Taylor – percussion, drums, backing vocals (2011–present) Neil Fairclough – bass guitar, backing vocals (2011–present) Rufus and Neil joined the touring band in 2011 for the EMA performance. |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Jun 8, 2014 21:03:44 GMT -5
oops Lyne You sid it perfectly, These ARE Freddie's/Queen songs. Therefore his delivery is the intent of the writer. BUT I love Broadway/Opera therefore I'm partial to Adam end of debate TALON QUeen was originally 4 members When John Deacon left, did they hire two bandmates Spike who I think is incredibly talented and can really tickle those ivories and Neil who also is a gifted bass guitarist. Were these two the original bandmates, or were there others before these two clicked with Brian and John???? I think it was asked before, but why has Rufus Tiger been added? as more of a intense drum sound? or a backup when Roger takes the stage and sings? Not Talon but to answer --- Queen will always be Brian, Roger, Freddie and John. No new members have ever been added. And they have been together since February 1971. That is why the 2005-8 and the 2011-2014 Queen Tours have been Queen + ("Queen plus") Tours. *** Rufus was added to free up Roger for solo performances and because most people cannot drum with that intensity for 2 hours, forget about someone in their 60's. For the Q+PR Tour Rodger was the only drummer. *** Queen was composed of... Brian May, Roger Taylor and bassist Tim Staffell formed a band called Smile in 1968. In 1970 Tim left Smile to form his own band and Farrokh Bulsara joined Smile. Sometime in 1970 Farrokh convince Brian and Roger to change the band's name to Queen. This appears to have been an evolution because the name changed while advertisements for the band still said Smile. Queen was comprised of: Brian May 1970 - now Roger Taylor 1970 - now Freddie Mercury - 1970 - 1991 John Deacon - February 1971 - 1998 retired. In 2004 he declined to join Brian and Roger for the Q+PR tour but gave them permission to use the name Queen for this and other purposes.
Queen had a number of bass players before February 1971 when John joined. They are not relevant - the longest lived lasted less than 3 months. Starting in 1982, Queen added a keyboardist to the touring band to free up Freddie to focus on the vocal and performance for most of the songs. Also, in 1982, they had started to incorporate synths in their music and needed someone to take care of this. Spike is part of the touring band, not part of Queen. He has been a member of the touring band since 1984 -- a very long time. A number of musicians have been part of Queen touring bands: Morgan Fisher – keyboards, piano (1982) Fred Mandel – keyboards, piano (1982) Spike Edney – keyboards, piano, rhythm guitar, backing vocals (1984–present) Jamie Moses – rhythm guitar, backing vocals (2005-2009) Danny Miranda – bass guitar, backing vocals (2005-2009) Rufus Tiger Taylor – percussion, drums, backing vocals (2011–present) Neil Fairclough – bass guitar, backing vocals (2011–present) Rufus and Neil joined the touring band in 2011 for the EMA performance. Plus, Rufus Tiger is not playing just a drum set. He is playing timpani and all sorts of other percussion. Adds a richer sound than just a drum set. My question is how often do the Queen studio recordings use other percussion than a drum set? |
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I can confirm that Sting + Jaguar is a perfect example.
