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Post by talon on Jun 29, 2014 22:03:19 GMT -5
Direct Link: www.straight.com/music/675471/queen-guitarist-brian-may-godlike-vancouverSTRAIGHT.com 29 June 2014 by Rebecca Blissett By the time Queen was halfway through its fourth number, "Fat Bottomed Girls", it was obvious that Lambert's vocals lack that special something that made Mercury's--or even Rodgers'--stand out. But the openly gay singer's flamboyant performing style, charming audience interaction, and heavily accessorized glam-rock look went a long way toward making up for the relative blandness of his voice. [reviewer stuffs cotton balls in ears before show] "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie".  ETA: Changed the spelling back as the reviewer did actually spell correctly... Can I ask a question here because I'm seeing it more and more. It's been seeming more and more because of the annoyance of FLD or whatever that now if a reviewer says that Freddie was better that the only reason that could be is that they don't want to admit that Adam is better? Can't it honestly be that someone just thinks Freddie has something that Adam doesn't? I mean I know I think that way. I know many here think the opposite. I also know that I've highly enjoyed the collaboration. I've also enjoyed the conversation here and I know I'm on an AL site so maybe I should just shut up....but for some reason it's bothered me. I don't even mind people saying they like Adams renditions better than Freddie because that's opinion but the thought that Freddie being better is not a legitimate opinion is just limiting. In fact implants to go into these concerts hoping and pretty much knowing I.m going to love it...but I know that if I think in my head that Adam is phenomenal but he is still not the one I want to be hearing right now, it won't be simply that I can't accept it. Am I making sense? Am I missing something? |
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Post by adamrocks on Jun 29, 2014 22:07:07 GMT -5
Kathy @sistermerrymary 4h
Philly 2 tix, sec 112, row 6, seat 1 & 2 my cost. Please RT @adam_Tickets
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Post by satisfied on Jun 29, 2014 22:10:47 GMT -5
"Relative blandness of his voice?" This one boggles my mind. No doubt everything is relative to FM for this guy but describing AFL's rich, incredible voice as bland simply makes him look absurd, IMO. ETA after reading Talon's post - Someone can like Freddie or think he's better than AFL - I don't mind a bit, we all have our opinion. It's the use of the word "bland" I can't compute. Bland as in boring or bland as in can't sing? Surely one would recognize that AFL has a good voice and can sing? If he means boring, well I find Celine Dion boring but still have no problem saying she has a good voice and can sing. |
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Post by happycat14 on Jun 29, 2014 22:12:23 GMT -5
Hey Talon maybe it's grating because it's not like QAL is trying to remove Freddie from Queen. The shows incorporate him with class I think. I guess the opinion that Adam is no Freddie is annoying because duh. And not sure who'd they get to front Q+ at this juncture. This guy? youtu.be/r8DOVme9snoAs for me, yes Freddie is better than Adam as a part of Queen and Adam is not a part of Queen, so the two are not in competition. I prefer Freddie's voice in general as THE BEST VOICE EVER. I like Adam's voice because he has the bigness of Freddie's voice though they have different sounds. I guess for the review, bland is not what I'd use for Adam but maybe she prefers more grit? Shrug. |
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Jun 29, 2014 22:14:57 GMT -5
[reviewer stuffs cotton balls in ears before show] "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". ETA: Changed the spelling back as the reviewer did actually spell correctly... Can I ask a question here because I'm seeing it more and more. It's been seeming more and more because of the annoyance of FLD or whatever that now if a reviewer says that Freddie was better that the only reason that could be is that they don't want to admit that Adam is better? Can't it honestly be that someone just thinks Freddie has something that Adam doesn't? I mean I know I think that way. I know many here think the opposite. I also know that I've highly enjoyed the collaboration. I've also enjoyed the conversation here and I know I'm on an AL site so maybe I should just shut up....but for some reason it's bothered me. I don't even mind people saying they like Adams renditions better than Freddie because that's opinion but the thought that Freddie being better is not a legitimate opinion is just limiting. In fact implants to go into these concerts hoping and pretty much knowing I.m going to love it...but I know that if I think in my head that Adam is phenomenal but he is still not the one I want to be hearing right now, it won't be simply that I can't accept it. Am I making sense? Am I missing something? To be honest, I don't personally have a problem with anyone going to a QAL concert, and walking out saying "That was good, but damn I miss Freddie". Because that, in my mind, is a totally legitimate way for someone who saw and loved Queen in its nadir to feel. But - again in my opinion - its one thing to say "I liked the way Freddie sang that better" and another to say "The new guy can't sing". And that's what the description of "bland" means to me. Adam may not have Freddie's grit. He also doesn't have the richness of Freddie's low baritone notes (Adam after all is a tenor, and his lower range - while better than it was - doesn't match Freddie's strength in that area). But Adam's voice isn't "bland". When I read a review like that, it comes off to me as "I want Freddie so much that I refuse to listen to what Adam brings to the table". IMO, YMMV, etc etc etc. ETA: That said, the obvious love for Brian was awesome and heartwarming (Yay Bri!!). But, yeah, the "bland" was annoying.  |
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Post by lulu1265 on Jun 29, 2014 22:18:21 GMT -5
[reviewer stuffs cotton balls in ears before show] "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". ETA: Changed the spelling back as the reviewer did actually spell correctly... Can I ask a question here because I'm seeing it more and more. It's been seeming more and more because of the annoyance of FLD or whatever that now if a reviewer says that Freddie was better that the only reason that could be is that they don't want to admit that Adam is better? Can't it honestly be that someone just thinks Freddie has something that Adam doesn't? I mean I know I think that way. I know many here think the opposite. I also know that I've highly enjoyed the collaboration. I've also enjoyed the conversation here and I know I'm on an AL site so maybe I should just shut up....but for some reason it's bothered me. I don't even mind people saying they like Adams renditions better than Freddie because that's opinion but the thought that Freddie being better is not a legitimate opinion is just limiting. In fact implants to go into these concerts hoping and pretty much knowing I.m going to love it...but I know that if I think in my head that Adam is phenomenal but he is still not the one I want to be hearing right now, it won't be simply that I can't accept it. Am I making sense? Am I missing something? I don't think it is that we object to someone thinking Freddie is better, just don't put Adam down in the process, e.g. "the relative blandness of his voice." Let's be honest Adam's voice is anything but bland. I think it's just the way it's done that gets to us, at least it does me. |
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Post by cassie on Jun 29, 2014 22:31:03 GMT -5
[reviewer stuffs cotton balls in ears before show] "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". ETA: Changed the spelling back as the reviewer did actually spell correctly... Can I ask a question here because I'm seeing it more and more. It's been seeming more and more because of the annoyance of FLD or whatever that now if a reviewer says that Freddie was better that the only reason that could be is that they don't want to admit that Adam is better? Can't it honestly be that someone just thinks Freddie has something that Adam doesn't? I mean I know I think that way. I know many here think the opposite. I also know that I've highly enjoyed the collaboration. I've also enjoyed the conversation here and I know I'm on an AL site so maybe I should just shut up....but for some reason it's bothered me. I don't even mind people saying they like Adams renditions better than Freddie because that's opinion but the thought that Freddie being better is not a legitimate opinion is just limiting. In fact implants to go into these concerts hoping and pretty much knowing I.m going to love it...but I know that if I think in my head that Adam is phenomenal but he is still not the one I want to be hearing right now, it won't be simply that I can't accept it. Am I making sense? Am I missing something? Thank you for being a voice of reason, Talon. Of course someone can prefer Freddie's (or with this reviewer, Paul's) voice over Adam's. It can sound better to their ears. I accept that possibility, and respect it. Variety is the spice of life. The problem is, tho' my rational mind acknowledges the possibility, another part of my mind cannot imagine how it could be true. If you tell me that the sky is red today and I look up to see bright, clear blue, it is hard for me to comprehend that you REALLY do see red, and it is as real to you as blue is to me. If you tell me that brussel sprouts taste great if cooked right, rationally I can tell myself that you do not have the TAS2R38 gene, while I do. Because I have that gene, brussel sprouts taste bitter to me, no matter how they are cooked. They still taste bitter even when I know why we have different responses to brussel sprouts. I am not implying that Freddie sounds "bitter." Or that my genes for listening to voices are "better" than yours. I am saying my brain cannot hear Freddie's voice like yours does. I need to keep that always in mind. Whatever gene or nerve endings or early childhood experiences or voice training or sympathetic vibrations in my body tell me that Adam's voice is heavenly and jaw dropping, do not exist to the same extent in others. Please keep reminding us that our perceptions are uniquely our own and we owe it to others to respect their perspectives as equally valuable. |
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Post by Q3 on Jun 29, 2014 22:31:33 GMT -5
[reviewer stuffs cotton balls in ears before show] "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". "I will not allow any other human to besmirch my mental image of Freddie". ETA: Changed the spelling back as the reviewer did actually spell correctly... Can I ask a question here because I'm seeing it more and more. It's been seeming more and more because of the annoyance of FLD or whatever that now if a reviewer says that Freddie was better that the only reason that could be is that they don't want to admit that Adam is better? Can't it honestly be that someone just thinks Freddie has something that Adam doesn't? I mean I know I think that way. I know many here think the opposite. I also know that I've highly enjoyed the collaboration. I've also enjoyed the conversation here and I know I'm on an AL site so maybe I should just shut up....but for some reason it's bothered me. I don't even mind people saying they like Adams renditions better than Freddie because that's opinion but the thought that Freddie being better is not a legitimate opinion is just limiting. In fact implants to go into these concerts hoping and pretty much knowing I.m going to love it...but I know that if I think in my head that Adam is phenomenal but he is still not the one I want to be hearing right now, it won't be simply that I can't accept it. Am I making sense? Am I missing something? Just my take... There are three types of reviews of the Adam Lambert's performance and vocals... 1. Freddie is great no one will ever be better at singing this music. I respect this view. I even agree there are some songs that Freddie did the definitive version of. But I do not share this opinion. 2. Freddie is a great vocalist but Adam can be judged on his own merit without comparison to Freddie. THIS IS ME. 3. Freddie, George Michael, Elton John, Paul Rodgers, Marc Martel, any one else is better than Adam Lambert. This is a view held mostly by anonymous online posters who I ignore. This review IMHO actually falls into category #1. JMHO Adam's vocals on a few of the opening songs do not match Freddie live. It is partly the sound mix and the arrangement, but it is also the difference in their voices -- Adam's voice is lighter and higher than Freddie's. 1. Now I'm Here* 2. Stone Cold Crazy* 3. Another One Bites The Dust 4. Fat Bottomed Girls 5. In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited* 6. Seven Seas Of Rhye* * These are the songs were I prefer Freddie. But so what. They were still excellent. And this is a concert, not a competition. *** This reviewer is entitled to his opinion. But I never recall reading a review before that described Adam's vocals as "bland". By the time Queen was halfway through its fourth number, "Fat Bottomed Girls", it was obvious that Lambert's vocals lack that special something that made Mercury's--or even Rodgers'--stand out. But the openly gay singer's flamboyant performing style, charming audience interaction, and heavily accessorized glam-rock look went a long way toward making up for the relative blandness of his voice.
This, and the fact that he ignored the vocals on these songs -- where Adam is far from bland... 8. Somebody To Love 15. Under Pressure (Adam and Roger duet) 16. Love Kills 17. Who Wants To Live Forever 21. Crazy Little Thing Called Love 22. The Show Must Go On 23. Bohemian Rhapsody *** I guess I am dreaming, but I would love to read a review of this concert, not a comparison with the past. |
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Post by lorraine on Jun 29, 2014 22:36:09 GMT -5
I have 2 tickets for The Forum on July 3rd.They are in the lower bowl, section 132 Row 15, seats 6 and 7. I can sell them for $129.00 each- which is less than what I paid for them. They are accessible seats but you don't need to have that requirement to purchase them, and regular seating is provided.The only caveat is that The Forum policy is that you may be directed to other seating if the the accessible seats are needed for disabled patrons.
The tickets, which were purchased on ticketmaster, can be readily emailed to you. Please PM me if interested. Thanks
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Post by Q3 on Jun 29, 2014 22:39:18 GMT -5
the link is in the concert thread already  No recap from me. Show was GREAT, rowdy peeps in my section not so much. Just glad I have Vegas ahead. Will not spend time dwelling on rude folks I am sorry to hear that! I noticed on some of the Vancouver videos there were loud singers from the audience who sound drunk. |
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