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Post by toramenor on Jul 12, 2014 18:10:02 GMT -5
I know where D5 maybe is on the keyboard. Yeah it's a D off to the right somewhere. Adam hits things effortlessly and sometimes we think the note is higher because of the effort to get there or because there is a bigger difference from the note right before. I understand what you mean. Some people are awed by singers who are straining to hit a high note, because they perceive that as the singer giving his all, going to the absolute limit of his voice and capabilities. Freddie did that, which is why (I guess) some people are still deluded into thinking that Freddie could sing higher than Adam, even though Adam has proved more than once that for him it's not a strain to sing all the high notes that Freddie sang and he sometimes goes even beyond that just for the fun of it, not because he has to, but because he wants to. Some experts have stated it's possible we have not yet heard Adam's absolute limit. Me, I hope Adam never feels like he needs to go even higher; he doesn't need to prove anything, and he can certainly give his all without straining his voice in some insane way. |
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Post by murly on Jul 12, 2014 18:15:51 GMT -5
Not sure what this is about... ADAM LAMBERT ✔ @adamlambertIs it true?? OITNB is cancelled cuz the head of Netflix had to get "creative?" So sad. Looks like Adam heard that the series Orange is the New Black was being cancelled. He got a response from the show's Twitter account. Orange Is the New... @oitnb 54m @adamlambert It was all a rumor! Don't worry, Dandelion. #OITNBDandelion! How cute! |
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Post by seoulmate on Jul 12, 2014 18:18:35 GMT -5
OMG, I have a new personal smiley!  Yes, it often looked like this in the last weeks!  Haha, how cute and funny, thank you so much, dear Chapf!!!  (But I admit, in the last week my DH was the one who voted for hours when he came back home from work because I'm still hopelessly behind with the threads, etc., and so I spent much time trying to catch up on everything!  So, he deserves the praise for last week!  He's definitely a keeper!!!  )   Oh! Betty's little red bow disappears when hubby takes over the voting!!!  chapf... you always crack me up!!! |
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Post by talon on Jul 12, 2014 18:35:03 GMT -5
I know where D5 maybe is on the keyboard. Yeah it's a D off to the right somewhere. Adam hits things effortlessly and sometimes we think the note is higher because of the effort to get there or because there is a bigger difference from the note right before. I understand what you mean. Some people are awed by singers who are straining to hit a high note, because they perceive that as the singer giving his all, going to the absolute limit of his voice and capabilities. Freddie did that, which is why (I guess) some people are still deluded into thinking that Freddie could sing higher than Adam, even though Adam has proved more than once that for him it's not a strain to sing all the high notes that Freddie sang and he sometimes goes even beyond that just for the fun of it, not because he has to, but because he wants to. Some experts have stated it's possible we have not yet heard Adam's absolute limit. Me, I hope Adam never feels like he needs to go even higher; he doesn't need to prove anything, and he can certainly give his all without straining his voice in some insane way. For the record....I am a big Freddie fan and I have no problem stating that Adam can sing higher than Freddie can in full voice. It's not rocket science for people :D Adam is a tenor, Freddie is a baritone (who can happen to sing some pretty high notes). Adam has a purer voice up high. I think Freddie has a far richer quality in his lower range. I also think that Freddie's tone is a sharper tone for lack of a better word (and I don't mean sharp as in sharp or flat...but more...I don't know...piercing? That sounds bad to but I definitely don't mean it in a bad way because I enjoy it more....*shrug* Hard to explain...again it's just different strokes :D BTW one thing about The Show Must Go On that many people rage about for Freddie is that despite him being in the last year of his live and getting more and more sickly and barely being able to stand at times, he did the studio version in ONE take. That's pretty impressive, especially given his health at that point... |
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Post by cassie on Jul 12, 2014 18:36:52 GMT -5
 Why do I let myself get worked up about what other people write? Why do I even read it? This Queen fan obviously thought he was being magnanimous saying that Adam couldn't/wouldn't do the high notes. Another way of saying "He's no Freddie Mercury, but he's not bad. Good try." Bullshit! He doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. Adam hits ALL the high notes that Freddie did in the studio version. (Repeated D5s.) Every single one. Every performance. Adam ADDS even higher notes some nights. (E5 up to F#5) It seems to be another example of altered memory of a dead icon. I am sure the guy believes and even remembers hearing Freddie sing higher in that song. I played the studio version several times to check MY memory, and D5 is it. Honest. (I thought maybe one E5, but couldn't find it when I replayed it. If I missed it, mea culpa.) Maybe it is sorta like going back to the house you lived in as a little child and thinking "But, I remember the rooms being waaaay bigger than this." Freddie lives larger than life in fans' memories. It is impossible for Adam to measure up to that. lol Cassie. it's ok, he likes Adam, he's a Queen fan Adam is never going to = Freddie for him let alone be >. All we can ask for is that he feels like this  afterwards and he did. I know where D5 maybe is on the keyboard. Yeah it's a D off to the right somewhere. Adam hits things effortlessly and sometimes we think the note is higher because of the effort to get there or because there is a bigger difference from the note right before. Yeah, I know he was trying to be complimentary to Adam. And I know that no one living can compare to a dead legend. I also accept that certain people just don't like Adam's voice, or his style, or his look, or his stage persona. What pisses me off is when they make incorrect statements about him to support their viewpoint. Inventing facts to fit the opinion. GRRRRRR. FYI, here is the D5 at 0:24. And just for giggles, a classical tenor known for his rare ability to sing an F5 in full voice. (I like Adam's sound better.) See what I did there? I accurately reported the note, and then stated my opinion about the sound. |
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Post by cassie on Jul 12, 2014 18:39:59 GMT -5
For the record....I am a big Freddie fan and I have no problem stating that Adam can sing higher than Freddie can in full voice. It's not rocket science for people :D Adam is a tenor, Freddie is a baritone (who can happen to sing some pretty high notes). Adam has a purer voice up high. I think Freddie has a far richer quality in his lower range. I also think that Freddie's tone is a sharper tone for lack of a better word (and I don't mean sharp as in sharp or flat...but more...I don't know...piercing? That sounds bad to but I definitely don't mean it in a bad way because I enjoy it more....*shrug* Hard to explain...again it's just different strokes :D BTW one thing about The Show Must Go On that many people rage about for Freddie is that despite him being in the last year of his live and getting more and more sickly and barely being able to stand at times, he did the studio version in ONE take. That's pretty impressive, especially given his health at that point... I agree with everything you said. Even the part about Freddie having a richer quality on the low notes. (See? I can be objective about Adam's voice. hahaha.) |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Jul 12, 2014 18:40:35 GMT -5
Is there any news of a live stream tonight??? Otherwise, I need to go cut my grass.
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Post by toramenor on Jul 12, 2014 18:42:59 GMT -5
I understand what you mean. Some people are awed by singers who are straining to hit a high note, because they perceive that as the singer giving his all, going to the absolute limit of his voice and capabilities. Freddie did that, which is why (I guess) some people are still deluded into thinking that Freddie could sing higher than Adam, even though Adam has proved more than once that for him it's not a strain to sing all the high notes that Freddie sang and he sometimes goes even beyond that just for the fun of it, not because he has to, but because he wants to. Some experts have stated it's possible we have not yet heard Adam's absolute limit. Me, I hope Adam never feels like he needs to go even higher; he doesn't need to prove anything, and he can certainly give his all without straining his voice in some insane way. For the record....I am a big Freddie fan and I have no problem stating that Adam can sing higher than Freddie can in full voice. It's not rocket science for people :D Adam is a tenor, Freddie is a baritone (who can happen to sing some pretty high notes). Adam has a purer voice up high. I think Freddie has a far richer quality in his lower range. I also think that Freddie's tone is a sharper tone for lack of a better word (and I don't mean sharp as in sharp or flat...but more...I don't know...piercing? That sounds bad to but I definitely don't mean it in a bad way because I enjoy it more....*shrug* Hard to explain...again it's just different strokes :D BTW one thing about The Show Must Go On that many people rage about for Freddie is that despite him being in the last year of his live and getting more and more sickly and barely being able to stand at times, he did the studio version in ONE take. That's pretty impressive, especially given his health at that point... Oh, talon, I wasn't refering to you, but to that fan who wrote in his review how Adam can't sing as high as Freddie. I totally accept your point of view and your preference. I heard/read that Freddie had extra teeth in the back of his mouth (not sure if that's 100% true), and this (if true) could explain the "sharpness" of his voice, because, when you sing, your teeth vibrate and create added harmonics to your voice. (Maybe you already knew this, but most people just think that vocal cords are responsible for all the sound. This is not true. cassie, I'm sure, can explain it better than I, in the vocal masterclass thread.) |
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Post by aloha on Jul 12, 2014 18:58:47 GMT -5
OH. OH. DAMN! I haven't been watching vids of the encore most recently because they are not my favorite songs. So I missed this. Thanks for pointing it out. A full-voice, ringing, sustained, powerful but not strained or tight F5. Do you know how many of the top world class tenors would KILL to be able to sing that note like that???? Wow seems the Dallas show was very special to get that kind of note at the end! Look at Spike and Neil's faces after that glorious note.. says it all! And the look on Roger's and especially Brian's face taking it all in at the end when they're taking their bows..  Thought I'd drop this off. This is the moment immediately after that GLORIOUS note. (hope this works, I have forgotten how to post photos here)  ![[URL=http://s921.photobucket.com/user/hanaleimoon/media/ScreenShot2014-07-12at14711PM_zps42671501.png.html][IMG]http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/hanaleimoon/ScreenShot2014-07-12at14711PM_zps42671501.png[/IMG][/URL]](http://s921.photobucket.com/user/hanaleimoon/media/ScreenShot2014-07-12at14711PM_zps42671501.png.html][IMG]http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/hanaleimoon/ScreenShot2014-07-12at14711PM_zps42671501.png[/IMG]) ![[URL=http://s921.photobucket.com/user/hanaleimoon/media/ScreenShot2014-07-12at14711PM_zps42671501.png.html][IMG]http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/hanaleimoon/ScreenShot2014-07-12at14711PM_zps42671501.png[/IMG][/URL]]() |
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Post by cassie on Jul 12, 2014 19:09:33 GMT -5
Wow seems the Dallas show was very special to get that kind of note at the end! Look at Spike and Neil's faces after that glorious note.. says it all! And the look on Roger's and especially Brian's face taking it all in at the end when they're taking their bows.. Thought I'd drop this off. This is the moment immediately after that GLORIOUS note. (hope this works, I have forgotten how to post photos here) ![[URL=http://s921.photobucket.com/user/hanaleimoon/media/ScreenShot2014-07-12at14711PM_zps42671501.png.html][IMG]http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/hanaleimoon/ScreenShot2014-07-12at14711PM_zps42671501.png[/IMG][/URL]]() Aloha!!!!!! So good to see you, little turtle. Please join in more often. Love this photo! |
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afterwards and he did.
